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NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

May 04 2016 15:04 GMT

#1301

On May 04 2016 23:11 disformation wrote:
Ah. Also referring to posts only per number and neither linking nor quoting them makes thoughts impossible to follow.

I play a lot on mobile, this was especially true for me trying to follow that.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

May 04 2016 15:17 GMT

#1302

People are too hard on themselves. Game was far from being bad. All townies were active and contributive. If they were wrong regarding the last scum, well, too bad. It doesn't mean bad play tho.

HTS was townie, TT was townie, Koshi was townie after day3.

I think it's totally fair that we overlooked Shape for bussing his two partners. Especially when he hammered DYH for no reason whatsoever. The probability of Mafia doing that is low.

Again, stop being harsh on yourselves. Game was good. Most of times we LISTENED to each other, and that's not very usual in a Mafia game these days.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

May 04 2016 21:22 GMT

#1303

On May 04 2016 22:25 NocturneMage wrote:
someone said in qt koshi pissed off too many people to be an effective player. IDK about that. I can see that going both ways.

That was me and let me explain it a little further, because I think I'm the minority opinion here.

Koshi had a very aggressive style right from the start, which is fine and can work well (although not my style as I have a much easier time being combative as scum than being productive). However, he did jump up and down on people for things that didn't make them mafia and spent a lot of posts calling people and their play bad/stupid. This doesn't do anything beneficial and in fact tends to cause other townies to dig their heals in and stick to their own thoughts even more. This was very clearly evidenced in the fact that while Koshi was generally townread and in no risk of being lynched the last 3 days, practically nobody worked with him, instead followed their own analysis. Instead of building a towncircle Koshi just attacked people who should have been on his side and he paid for it when nobody listened to him.

Being right is great but doesn't matter if you can't convince others. Being a townie is 1/3 looking townie, 1/3 solving and being right, and 1/3 coalition building. Koshi was 2/3rds of a great town player this game.

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