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On January 08 2016 08:54 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 08:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 08 2016 08:17 NocturneMage wrote:On January 08 2016 08:08 The Shining wrote:On January 08 2016 08:04 Damdred wrote: Congrats Obi on being basically confirmed town. To bad SL didn't make his second check better.
Interesting that palmar wouldn't move to slam yesterday when we were shenanigans.
Time to think Hmmmm. Palmar+OO+exo? If not exo, NMs ritoky case might have merit. Hey everyone, this was after the GB lynch and before the cop flipped. Remember this? On January 05 2016 08:04 Palmar wrote:On January 05 2016 08:03 Damdred wrote: Well I'm glad it was the case hrm I look sorta bad but it made sense to me at the time technically it could've been a scum vs scum wagon (see gb didn't vote slam). But he also may just have given up. either way, checking slam: fantastic idea. This might be valuable information though. I know for a fact Palmar hates checking lynchbait so him saying this and Slam consequently flipping godfather looks pretty significant. o rly? why would you hate checking lynchbait... lynchbait seems like the perfect thing to check.
It's Palmar's general line of thinking as town. I agree with it, which is why it's weird that he didn't think it this game. And, coincidentally, he tells people to check the lynchbait godfather of all things?
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On January 08 2016 09:27 ritoky wrote: the basic case for the impatient is is: 1) nm knows slam is about to flip mafia; 2) nm plans to go 1 for 1 to get to lylo; 3) nm knows if slam flips mafia then i look like a jackass cuz i shot the only town in a list of 3 provided by hf; 4) nm pre-emptively starts to tunnel me with that factor as the centerpiece of his case; 5) NM re-inforces it post flip
But from what I've read from NM, I don't get the feeling that he's posting from a position of being a scum and trying to make some case on you. I think this is a little bit of an OMGUS. Take a step back.
What do you think about what I just posted? Do you think scum bussed slam or GB?
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On January 08 2016 09:27 ritoky wrote: the basic case for the impatient is is: 1) nm knows slam is about to flip mafia; 2) nm plans to go 1 for 1 to get to lylo; 3) nm knows if slam flips mafia then i look like a jackass cuz i shot the only town in a list of 3 provided by hf; 4) nm pre-emptively starts to tunnel me with that factor as the centerpiece of his case; 5) NM re-inforces it post flip
5 is NAI, but the rest....keep distorting the facts.
#3 you conveniently ignore the rest of the information provided by him #4 the central point of the case was the way you responded to Damdred at daybreak with the information you said you used, you could have given a much more straightforward and direct response but you did just the opposite.
Pre-emptively is another way you are spinning it, tone/interactions was the reason I started digging through your filter in the first place.
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Here's another reason ritoky is mafia.
We know GB is mafia, Rels flipped town.
Day 1 -
(1) Soft pushes GB all cycle long (starts as soon as 24 minutes into the cycle, post #245, turns up discussion between 1-5 hours into the day 1).
(2) At 1h prior to end of cycle (post 1859), he mentions Rels out of nowhere and for no reason for the first time in a shennanies list with GB. (It's my understanding Rels was AFKish and reiterated that throughout the cycle, mind you.)
(3) He mentions the trio of Shining, Rels and GB again at 2240 (20 mins to end of cycle) 2250 calls the Rels lynch.
Central to this argument is this post, post 1877
On December 29 2015 07:06 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 07:01 The Shining wrote:On December 29 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:On December 29 2015 06:54 The Shining wrote:On December 29 2015 06:48 ritoky wrote: shining, if TT is your 2nd largest scum read, why aren't you voting him? Because he showed signs of wanting to lynch my 1st largest scumread, which gives me doubts and makes me hesitate on both. And my 1st largest scumread AFKd the game after martyring and is voting an un-CCd JK, even though that JK unclaimed and now I just don't know anymore. I guess I'd rather not be wrong on either and since TT is around, I'm interested in what he'll come up with before DL I don't like this post, nor 1 of the previous ones. I would be willing to boot up shennanie.exe for this guy, and gb, and maybe rels Do what you gotta do. Just remember you suck at reading me and I've pointed this out before. I guess you really can't backtrack once you scum me, either, because you did that last time you rolled scum vs me and I caught you. You had to pretend you were wrong that game after our shouting match. I'm down to yell again if you are. And shenannying onto GB means you'd be voting with me, since out of those 2(not counting myself), that's who I'd vote. Decisions, decisions. Well i thought you were town earlier cuz you sounded pretty honest, but then you're all wishy-washy about your 2nd biggest scum read and refuse to vote when you really should have already voted if you believed your read and sound like you're pre-emptively distancing; which could mean you're TMI setting yourself up to look good post-flip. I don't wanna vote TT cuz he the only person voting my top scum read is a dumpster reason too.
Really curious to hear what Shining and others think of this now.
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On January 08 2016 10:50 NocturneMage wrote:Here's another reason ritoky is mafia. We know GB is mafia, Rels flipped town. Day 1 - (1) Soft pushes GB all cycle long (starts as soon as 24 minutes into the cycle, post #245, turns up discussion between 1-5 hours into the day 1). (2) At 1h prior to end of cycle (post 1859), he mentions Rels out of nowhere and for no reason for the first time in a shennanies list with GB. (It's my understanding Rels was AFKish and reiterated that throughout the cycle, mind you.) (3) He mentions the trio of Shining, Rels and GB again at 2240 (20 mins to end of cycle) 2250 calls the Rels lynch. Central to this argument is this post, post 1877 Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 07:06 ritoky wrote:On December 29 2015 07:01 The Shining wrote:On December 29 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:On December 29 2015 06:54 The Shining wrote:On December 29 2015 06:48 ritoky wrote: shining, if TT is your 2nd largest scum read, why aren't you voting him? Because he showed signs of wanting to lynch my 1st largest scumread, which gives me doubts and makes me hesitate on both. And my 1st largest scumread AFKd the game after martyring and is voting an un-CCd JK, even though that JK unclaimed and now I just don't know anymore. I guess I'd rather not be wrong on either and since TT is around, I'm interested in what he'll come up with before DL I don't like this post, nor 1 of the previous ones. I would be willing to boot up shennanie.exe for this guy, and gb, and maybe rels Do what you gotta do. Just remember you suck at reading me and I've pointed this out before. I guess you really can't backtrack once you scum me, either, because you did that last time you rolled scum vs me and I caught you. You had to pretend you were wrong that game after our shouting match. I'm down to yell again if you are. And shenannying onto GB means you'd be voting with me, since out of those 2(not counting myself), that's who I'd vote. Decisions, decisions. Well i thought you were town earlier cuz you sounded pretty honest, but then you're all wishy-washy about your 2nd biggest scum read and refuse to vote when you really should have already voted if you believed your read and sound like you're pre-emptively distancing; which could mean you're TMI setting yourself up to look good post-flip. I don't wanna vote TT cuz he the only person voting my top scum read is a dumpster reason too. Really curious to hear what Shining and others think of this now.
how does this indicate him as scum?
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k here's my newest and probably my last poe
oo onegu shining
gg
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1 of shining or nm; take it to the bank.
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Gj assholes now there's no way I'm ever getting nkd
Inb4 shining gets lynched in lylo and bms everyone
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Who knows shining might be scum herr *nervous laugh*
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or maybe kush
But I think OO
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everyone should always sheep me btw, because clearly I am mafia and I am going to lynch my entire team for being baddies.
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Oo is a clear lynch tomorrow,
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On January 08 2016 20:28 Palmar wrote: everyone should always sheep me btw, because clearly I am mafia and I am going to lynch my entire team for being baddies.
The only effect you've had on lynches was switching from mafia to mafia. How does that prove you're townie?
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Palmer can you defend the point nm made against you earlier?
You directed checking slam. You are known to not like checking lynchbait players according to ows.
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OWS is not correct, I always, always encourage checking low activity players who feel like a coinflip. Checking or shooting them.
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Also, don't forget, it's highly likely that mafia checked SL on night 2, so if I am mafia and I know who the cop is, why do I care if the cop checks the godfather.
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On January 08 2016 21:34 Palmar wrote: Also, don't forget, it's highly likely that mafia checked SL on night 2, so if I am mafia and I know who the cop is, why do I care if the cop checks the godfather.
I don't get why its highly likely SL wasn't amazing town until around the GB lynch though?
He was an easy town read though
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On January 08 2016 21:32 Palmar wrote: OWS is not correct, I always, always encourage checking low activity players who feel like a coinflip. Checking or shooting them.
iirc you got mad at hopeless for checking someone like that in that other game.
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