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On January 08 2016 08:14 ExO_ wrote:
Holy shit why am I scummy now? Jesus Christ its like a rotating door. I really hope it's scum coming in here trying to push suspicion on me yet again, and not townies.
OWS since you are all but confirmed town at this point please listen. I'm not scum. idk what to do but I don't want to lose the game later on b/c confirmed towns scum read me and ended up pusing me.
I don't feel strongly about anyone being scum right now.
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anyway, as someone already mentioned: Palmar staying put on GB instead of moving to slam puts him back on the table for me a little bit. I still think kush is 100% scum and should be our next lynch. And call me crazy but I think Onegu's vote move from slam to GB looks scummy too. I know considering what happened day 2 he shouldn't be scum, but everything else makes me think he is scum
Kush
Onegu
Palmar/OO/Shining
One of those. And I'm starting to lean away from shining being scum.
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Exo stop going off and just work. You can't yell out of,being scummed. Take a step back from that and just explain who are scum tommorow and see.
Anyway I think palmar will be a good lynch target tommorow.
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On January 08 2016 08:17 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 08:08 The Shining wrote:On January 08 2016 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Congrats Obi on being basically confirmed town. To bad SL didn't make his second check better.
Interesting that palmar wouldn't move to slam yesterday when we were shenanigans.
Time to think Hmmmm. Palmar+OO+exo? If not exo, NMs ritoky case might have merit. Hey everyone, this was after the GB lynch and before the cop flipped. Remember this? Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 08:04 Palmar wrote:On January 05 2016 08:03 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm glad it was the case hrm I look sorta bad but it made sense to me at the time technically it could've been a scum vs scum wagon (see gb didn't vote slam). But he also may just have given up. either way, checking slam: fantastic idea. 
This might be valuable information though.
I know for a fact Palmar hates checking lynchbait so him saying this and Slam consequently flipping godfather looks pretty significant.
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On January 08 2016 08:06 The Shining wrote:
Lmao well shit. See NM told you he had to be GF if they wanted to keep him alive, not big XD
I also just got my wish 're: Obi so I'm pretty happy. I can take Obi off of my POE. NM, too, after this last day phase.
Slam voting exo is such wifom though. Anyone know if Slam is more likely to vote a partner here or a townie? A part of me wants to not even touch that.
Complete WIFOM, disregard, he was the clear and undisputed lynch.
I also want people to think a bit more critically on why ritoky spared Alakaslam over Moosy.
Now this flip sheds more light on that too.
It's Ritoky/Palmar/+1 folks.
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What really strikes me about Palmar is when he got pressure he came in and talked a lot. And what he was saying looked good to me, it looked like he cared about solving the game and after I re-read his filter I started to agree. But he was entirely absent today. idk does Palmar only care when he has pressure on him or something?
still his talking on day 3/night 3 really gives me pause before I scum read him
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On January 08 2016 08:23 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 08:06 The Shining wrote:
Lmao well shit. See NM told you he had to be GF if they wanted to keep him alive, not big XD
I also just got my wish 're: Obi so I'm pretty happy. I can take Obi off of my POE. NM, too, after this last day phase.
Slam voting exo is such wifom though. Anyone know if Slam is more likely to vote a partner here or a townie? A part of me wants to not even touch that. Complete WIFOM, disregard, he was the clear and undisputed lynch. I also want people to think a bit more critically on why ritoky spared Alakaslam over Moosy. Now this flip sheds more light on that too. It's Ritoky/Palmar/+1 folks.
why are you not scum reading kush?
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On January 08 2016 08:24 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 08:23 NocturneMage wrote:On January 08 2016 08:06 The Shining wrote:
Lmao well shit. See NM told you he had to be GF if they wanted to keep him alive, not big XD
I also just got my wish 're: Obi so I'm pretty happy. I can take Obi off of my POE. NM, too, after this last day phase.
Slam voting exo is such wifom though. Anyone know if Slam is more likely to vote a partner here or a townie? A part of me wants to not even touch that. Complete WIFOM, disregard, he was the clear and undisputed lynch. I also want people to think a bit more critically on why ritoky spared Alakaslam over Moosy. Now this flip sheds more light on that too. It's Ritoky/Palmar/+1 folks. why are you not scum reading kush?
There were a few interactions that I had with him when I replaced in that indicated to me he was town.
I'll go ahead and re-read his filter from day 1 but this could also be me biased having just come off with him from Dark Tournament and Newbie 18. Varying levels of activity but posts where he cobbled together something to move the game forward.
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On January 08 2016 08:13 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 08:07 nooniansoong wrote:
Damred. I don't really find it that interesting. It was pretty obvious that sLamb was going to get lynched the next day and Palmer was on board since the beginning It's easy for this train of thought when the cop is dead. But it's much better for scum team if SL isn't cop to have the wifom still going on.
Good point
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On January 08 2016 08:13 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 07:57 The Shining wrote:On January 08 2016 07:49 NocturneMage wrote:
Alright, Noon is saying OO is a lynch bait player then, so likely just PoE? He's not looking scummy at all per se to me looking through his posts, probably just a low volume poster. For me it's POE, activity and him claiming I was much more engaged in the thread early on and I'm not anymore, which means I'm scum. Which is bad because most of my posts early on were catch up posts and just scumming Ness. Then he asked palmar to validate a meta read on me from my most recent scum game and a random town game, even though I've rolled town in like 20/22 games. But when I asked him about it, he said it probably meant nothing, even though I think he scum read me Guy replaced in night 1 and has a 3 page filter in a 220+ page game. Content per post when I read his filter however I'd argue is pretty good, when you consider how he's reading some of the other players in the game. There are several posts in that OO filter that show critical thinking on a few of the players. Decent shot of bad reads regardless of alignment depending on how he's reading or even in the thread. IDK. Second point I don't think is exclusively mafia, it could be honestly just really bad town play.
Exactly, he only missed one day phase but has been pretty underwhelming. If that slot is scum, though, he'd be forced to produce a lot of content and try to get town reads. So even though there's a lot of content in a low amount of posts, I'll go read his filter again now that we have consecutive scum flips.
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On January 08 2016 08:14 nooniansoong wrote:
Exo I defended Palmer and gb a lot. That indicates care.
GB was scum, though. Honestly if Palmar flips scum, and that point about him claiming Slam should be cop checked looks really bad on him, it makes you look bad for defending two scum.
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On January 08 2016 08:23 ExO_ wrote:
What really strikes me about Palmar is when he got pressure he came in and talked a lot. And what he was saying looked good to me, it looked like he cared about solving the game and after I re-read his filter I started to agree. But he was entirely absent today. idk does Palmar only care when he has pressure on him or something?
still his talking on day 3/night 3 really gives me pause before I scum read him
It has been mentioned Palmar is good enough to talk himself out of lynches. It's very possible he bussed GB to get town cred out of it. It would be amazing if all 3 wagons on d3 were scum. GB Slam Palmar.
Palmar had an excuse for not being here today and also said he probably wouldn't make it home from work in time for dead line so his absence is probably nai. The other points against him, not so much.
Also your posts here have me thinking about kush again and have me thinking you're prob town so just ignore the scum reads and keep scum hunting. I like this Exo
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On January 05 2016 22:50 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Its very possible we had two scum up GB refused to claim blue to get a lynch averted and refused to vote on a wagon to save himself.
which technically means that it coud be palmar or slam. More than like slam but its worth considering palm. Here's an interesting tidbit based on my current bus theory - Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 08:04 Palmar wrote:On January 05 2016 08:03 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm glad it was the case hrm I look sorta bad but it made sense to me at the time technically it could've been a scum vs scum wagon (see gb didn't vote slam). But he also may just have given up. either way, checking slam: fantastic idea. If Alakaslam flips godfather, 1000% lynch Palmar.
Dunno I think this might look worse for nm than palmar.
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On January 08 2016 08:23 ExO_ wrote:
What really strikes me about Palmar is when he got pressure he came in and talked a lot. And what he was saying looked good to me, it looked like he cared about solving the game and after I re-read his filter I started to agree. But he was entirely absent today. idk does Palmar only care when he has pressure on him or something?
still his talking on day 3/night 3 really gives me pause before I scum read him
I won't meta, but notice how he spammed the thread as I was casing ritoky lol and discussing him. People weren't around to move, ritoky reacted as he did. But he might have been priming up for a defence had my push actually gained traction.
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On January 08 2016 08:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 08:17 NocturneMage wrote:On January 08 2016 08:08 The Shining wrote:On January 08 2016 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Congrats Obi on being basically confirmed town. To bad SL didn't make his second check better.
Interesting that palmar wouldn't move to slam yesterday when we were shenanigans.
Time to think Hmmmm. Palmar+OO+exo? If not exo, NMs ritoky case might have merit. Hey everyone, this was after the GB lynch and before the cop flipped. Remember this? On January 05 2016 08:04 Palmar wrote:On January 05 2016 08:03 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm glad it was the case hrm I look sorta bad but it made sense to me at the time technically it could've been a scum vs scum wagon (see gb didn't vote slam). But he also may just have given up. either way, checking slam: fantastic idea. This might be valuable information though. I know for a fact Palmar hates checking lynchbait so him saying this and Slam consequently flipping godfather looks pretty significant.
o rly? why would you hate checking lynchbait... lynchbait seems like the perfect thing to check.
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Note: I only included exo in POE because of the Slam vote on him when there wasn't really any chance of pushing that lynch on Exo. But NM is right in that I should probably disregard it
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On January 08 2016 08:53 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2016 22:50 NocturneMage wrote:On January 05 2016 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Its very possible we had two scum up GB refused to claim blue to get a lynch averted and refused to vote on a wagon to save himself.
which technically means that it coud be palmar or slam. More than like slam but its worth considering palm. Here's an interesting tidbit based on my current bus theory - On January 05 2016 08:04 Palmar wrote:On January 05 2016 08:03 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm glad it was the case hrm I look sorta bad but it made sense to me at the time technically it could've been a scum vs scum wagon (see gb didn't vote slam). But he also may just have given up. either way, checking slam: fantastic idea. If Alakaslam flips godfather, 1000% lynch Palmar. Dunno I think this might look worse for nm than palmar.
Think it through logically. If he earned enough townreads to either stave off the lynch or getting cred through the gb lynch, he's clearly got a good shot or at least good pull for someone to listen to him.
I was also 100% scumreading Palmar the entire time, so keep that in mind as well.
Also I just brought the same quote up again just now for a reason lol.
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thought about it, and i think NM is very likely mafia, will tell you about it later.
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Day 3 Final Votes:
GlowingBear (7): Palmar, Palmar, sicklucker, ObviousOne, Onegu, Damdred, The Shining, ritoky, ObiWanShinobi, Alakaslam, ExO_
Alakaslam (6): ritoky, nooniansoong, sicklucker, Palmar, Onegu, ObviousOne, Trfel, Damdred, ExO_, ritoky, NocturneMage
As I said earlier, I think Kush is scum and parked his vote on slam the entire game hoping to get town cred later. Trfel was town, I'm town, I think Damdred was town. The fact that GB didn't vote for slam, indicated that he was a more important mafia role. This ended up being true. Taking this one step further: I think this means other than kush, no scum bussed slam. If the scum team collectively was going to bus their GF, I believe GB would've voted for Slam. GB not moving his vote indicates the scum team wanted to protect Slam, the God Father. Kush keeps his vote on slam, b/c for the entire game he's sat on slam. And on the off chance things go wrong, scum team will be hoping kush can get enough town cred to misleads town as we move later on.
So I believe out of: Palmar/OO/Onegu/Shining/OWS we have 2 mafia. OWS is green checked so he's not it. I think I'm town leaning shining. So we have to decided 2 out of Palmar/OO/Onegu.
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the basic case for the impatient is is: 1) nm knows slam is about to flip mafia; 2) nm plans to go 1 for 1 to get to lylo; 3) nm knows if slam flips mafia then i look like a jackass cuz i shot the only town in a list of 3 provided by hf; 4) nm pre-emptively starts to tunnel me with that factor as the centerpiece of his case; 5) NM re-inforces it post flip
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