Dark Tournament Mini Mafia - Page 44

On December 03 2015 12:26 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now guys(gotten some ice cream with my dad) and NM posted. Seems okay for now. Wondering if it was triple town that were up for lynch today in terms of the big wagons that had happened at EoD. Hmmm

On March 19 2015 23:35 LightningStrike wrote:

Town:
Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX.
rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT She also my whisper so listen to her on me.
Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :|
Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh.
Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again).
Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time.
Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him.
Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial.
Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker.
Null:
Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read.
Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia.
raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o
Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious.
Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh.
Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him.
sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him.
Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :|
Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post!

On April 19 2015 21:40 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and saw TheBloodyDwarf complaining on the lack of Europeans in this thread. Also Shining had a question which will now be answered:

Okay let's be honest here I usually get scumread for my early reads list by most people but here some thoughts on people:
OWS: Null he haven't done much yet but I know when he post more I can give more of a accurate meta read because he haven't posted much.
Shinging: Maybe Town you seem to be trying actually but I haven't forgiven you on being scum in our last game together
LeiNadk: Just a confused townie most likely he being earnest I feel with him asking questions on how to play kinda reminds me of myself on my first game on TL.
Tfrel: Null he can do most of his stuff as both alignments (Hinted at pregame he would do a really large post)
Scott: He looked so damn townie when he was scum and he looks townie here to so null.
Bourneq: Null he haven't really done much.
Also Bourneq I'm here what's your thoughts so far?

On April 20 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly this game si rather inactive and it kinda bad because scum can just hang back and not post :|

On February 09 2015 01:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Yes gobbledydook been pretty inconsistent and his posting is weird but it's still early in the day and I never played with him before so I can't use meta on him
I still finding it weird you got a instant town read on me after I posted like twice before you called me town.
Here my pile for each type of read for now:
Town:
Rayn: Brought a early case and been pushing it pretty hard.
Lian: Because he actually trying this game asking some good questions towards oh and he not copying my meta like he did in Void I think it was.
Geript: His first post seem very much like his play in Student V although he seem to wasting some posts on fluff though if he trying to limit his posting.
Keirathi: He been very defensive early due to rayns case and kept on telling ryan he is town it really odd play from him also asking lots of questions and trying to lead discussion with rayn
Damdred: Seems like himself asking questions but he doing a over the top meta read on me is kind of unusual for him to do that on me o.o
Null:
OWS: Lots of 1 liners and lacking much content from him to make a good read on him.
Slam: I finding it hard to read him this game but everyone told me he's hard to read correctly but his vote on Keirathi without much reason is striking me odd.
sicklucker: I can't read him correctly anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was scum on Day 1 I need to see his play in N1 and D2 to see if he's town or scum.
LM: Never posted.

On December 03 2015 05:22 Trfel wrote:
Maybe this is just not a good argument at all. One more try.

The key word is that Rels is rushing to the aid of town. Rushing, because speed is important. And his post is extremely knowledgeable, and is a really comprehensive explanation. I find it hard to believe that he got confirmation that scum didn't know the setup in time to make this post, for example.

If Rels was around earlier, he should have been posting. Town wouldn't avoid posting like that.

Basically, Rels took extra time to make sure his argument was completely explained and correct, when town wants to post as quickly as possible. This makes me wonder if the motivation behind the post is, instead of helping town, to make himself look better, which would mean that Rels is mafia.

The argument falls apart if Rels is good enough to make this post as town without taking much extra time, which is what I was trying to get at. That seems really unlikely, but I can't completely rule it out.

On December 03 2015 06:17 Half the Sky wrote:


Not sure I like or agree with this post. I might be biased here because I've cohosted two games now with Rels, both of which are themed and both of which require him to know his mechanics in depth. I concluded this post alone was NAI because anyone skilled enough or knowledgeable enough about setup spec can speak to their opinions about what certain roles should and should not do. My opinion based on what I read in the OP/day post was that scum can narrow down the setup as they know their own roles so Rels' post is reasonable based on the fact that if the boxer claims, they can further narrow down the setup.

The part about 100% sure on the setup is completely false, based on his saying "there are two possible setups....etc" no they don't know for sure but like I said before they can narrow it down based on how BH (and clearly you know from what you've posted?) assigns the roles in his games in the mafia QT, and that would appear to be Rels argument. I don't know where you are getting "took extra time" (I'm seeing a 10 minute gap between Damdred's and Rels response and from what I'm reading of the thread/their filters, for both players it is their first appearances in the thread, 23:27 and 23:37 respectively) or how you'd know he would have posted that otherwise unless I'm reading that sentence wrong.

What I'm trying to say is it appears to me that you are reaching here especially since as Rels hadn't posted yet in the thread so I don't know how you can even assume that. It seems like a few assumptions "if he was around" etc. but even if you are making the argument that 10 minutes is too long for him to construct his post, that's still a poor assumption because when you look at his filter that 23:37 post is the first post he makes in the game. You don't know if he arrives at 23:35, sees that and just churns it out which makes the "completely explained and correct" part a reach on your end as well.

On December 03 2015 09:31 Trfel wrote:
As for the rest of your questions:

My thinking was that if disformation was town in the game, then he knows that that argument doesn't make sense, so he shouldn't be applying it. In general I was trying to look at his thought process, though. When he explained it, I realized that he wasn't using "constructed" as a scum tell, but to refer to posts that were created pre-game. He was actually approaching it from the other mindset, saying that Damdred's post seemed towny but was NAI if it was created pre role pm. This seemed like an unexpected take to me, and a bit towny.

I didn't pay much attention in the final hour of the day, so I don't really know about The Shining. His completely ignoring my arguments and scumreading me with unflipped association to the point that I should be a counterwagon felt really really horrible, but I'm not sure if that makes him mafia.

I liked the points about his Day 1 activity, however he was kind of forced to do that as mafia if he wanted to survive. Then the only question is if he could have that much motivation to play as mafia, and I think that the answer is possibly.

I really want to look at how his reads changed between his two series of posts, and see what the reasoning and thought process for those changes are. Right now, I don't have thoughts.

Third question was answered above XD Those weren't suspicions, but trying to figure things out.

I never got to Fidei86's filter, I was confident in MoosyDoosy being scum. I was too frustrated before I read his filter.

On December 03 2015 06:41 Trfel wrote:
MoosyDoosy was fricking obvious town last game.

Like, really really obvious.