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To the potential cop / vig, since we cannot have both: I would use my ability on this group:
DYH, NM, Palmar.
I wouldn't vig Damdred, but I would cop check him since he cannot be GF if a cop is in the setup.
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My town list atm:
Shining
fidei
HTS
disfo
Trfel
LS
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On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:
Good cop check / vig shot.
Cop check, sure, it's a waste of a check on someone whose alignment is obvious, but sure.
Vigi shot, I will be seriously mad.
Here's the thing, go back to just about every game I play. I should NEVER EVER be vigged. The reason is I am extremely unlikely to be a wildcard. I will always respond to pressure and always play the game. Using a vigilante shot on a player who is all but guaranteed to be active and willing to engage when pressured is a waste of a shot. It's literally the most wrong way to use a vigi shot.
Vigis should focus on killing people who are inactive/not playing/not contributing.
I am more than slightly mad at you for suggesting this, it makes you a bad player to even think this is the correct thing to do.
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Rels, your entire reason for suspecting me is that I didn't have good ideas on day 1. It is not indicative of me being mafia that I lack good ideas. If I'm mafia I can just make up stuff if I want to push things. I genuinely didn't really have a good idea of doing things, in which case I tend to sheep people.
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On December 03 2015 22:08 Palmar wrote:Cop check, sure, it's a waste of a check on someone whose alignment is obvious, but sure. Vigi shot, I will be seriously mad. Here's the thing, go back to just about every game I play. I should NEVER EVER be vigged. The reason is I am extremely unlikely to be a wildcard. I will always respond to pressure and always play the game. Using a vigilante shot on a player who is all but guaranteed to be active and willing to engage when pressured is a waste of a shot. It's literally the most wrong way to use a vigi shot. Vigis should focus on killing people who are inactive/not playing/not contributing. I am more than slightly mad at you for suggesting this, it makes you a bad player to even think this is the correct thing to do.
Why are you obvious town ?
Has your read of DYH evolved beyond "meh he's useless like others" ?
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@Rels, I agree with you on Shining and I agree with you on LS.
I have repeatedly found disformation's posts to be very unforced and easy to follow so I'll accept your town read on him.
HTS/fidei/Trfel, can you give me something to convince me to believe they're all town?
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On December 03 2015 22:15 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:08 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:
Good cop check / vig shot. Cop check, sure, it's a waste of a check on someone whose alignment is obvious, but sure. Vigi shot, I will be seriously mad. Here's the thing, go back to just about every game I play. I should NEVER EVER be vigged. The reason is I am extremely unlikely to be a wildcard. I will always respond to pressure and always play the game. Using a vigilante shot on a player who is all but guaranteed to be active and willing to engage when pressured is a waste of a shot. It's literally the most wrong way to use a vigi shot. Vigis should focus on killing people who are inactive/not playing/not contributing. I am more than slightly mad at you for suggesting this, it makes you a bad player to even think this is the correct thing to do. Why are you obvious town ? Has your read of DYH evolved beyond "meh he's useless like others" ?
I have not read anything by DYH really since then, so no.
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Good morning I just woke up.
On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot.
Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1.
Here his fitler from that game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar
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And my alignment is obvious because I just don't play this way as mafia. Even if it isn't obvious to you right now, just try to lynch me later in the game and it will become.
If you haven't played much with me before: I do not like being lynched, I will generally put a lot of effort into not being lynched because I consider whoever gets lynched to be the worst player in the game. This means that I am usually very, very active in defending myself when people want to lynch me. I should never, ever be vigi shot, it is objectively a bad play.
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Yeah, I had some extra time so I decided to push a bit.
I think it was useful! We all think shining is town now!
My damdred townread, is really just wishful thinking. I want him to be town because I cba dealing with him as mafia.
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On December 03 2015 22:15 Palmar wrote:
@Rels, I agree with you on Shining and I agree with you on LS.
I have repeatedly found disformation's posts to be very unforced and easy to follow so I'll accept your town read on him.
HTS/fidei/Trfel, can you give me something to convince me to believe they're all town?
fidei: I had almost the exact same reads as him when he posted his big post. Especially, I was null on the same persons for kinda the same reasons, which I have an hard time imagining fidei faking.
HTS: despite being in catch up mode for almost all EOD, she was tryhard during it. She had no reason to defend me against Trfel's accusation when I was not up for lynch as scum. Finally, these posts convinced me:
On December 03 2015 07:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Thing is, I don't recall LS being under pressure in that game so that still gives me pause.
Fuck it I'm going back to Witchcraft 3, I didn't see that game (scum LS) whether he was emotional. If he was emotional in even one scum game, then the meta can be considered broken IDK.
On December 03 2015 07:52 Half the Sky wrote:Final four posts in mafia LS Witchcraft 3 filter. Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I just going to vote to save myself potentally.
##Unvote
Vote: Bill Murray Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:
I think BM might flip scum and Stutters is most likely getting Modkilled we lynch BM if I live through this lynch guys. Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 07:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Saving myself again.
##Unvote
##Vote:Stutters695 Show nested quote +On June 10 2015 08:10 LightningStrike wrote:gG Had no motivation to play when I saw I rolled scum  He's not emotional and not as emotional compared to here though he says he's saving himself but saving self is always NAI. I hate that he isn't talking to us and I hate he isn't suggesting an alternate lynch but gut call says current lynch is a bad lynch.
Trfel: he's suspecting a wide array of people for different and logical reasons each time. I have the impression he is suspicious of a lot of people and is super unsure of himself, which is how I picture town!Trfel. I also have a hard time imaging scum!Trfel apologizing for his "toxic" behaviour.
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On December 03 2015 22:19 Palmar wrote:
And my alignment is obvious because I just don't play this way as mafia. Even if it isn't obvious to you right now, just try to lynch me later in the game and it will become.
If you haven't played much with me before: I do not like being lynched, I will generally put a lot of effort into not being lynched because I consider whoever gets lynched to be the worst player in the game. This means that I am usually very, very active in defending myself when people want to lynch me. I should never, ever be vigi shot, it is objectively a bad play.
What way do you play as mafia then ?
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On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar
I don't really care about The Shining push, as it's super easy to reproduce that as scum (tunneling someone on something specific). Not that it makes scum either.
1 - Were his reads boring in that game too ?
2 - Was he apathetic and not really caring of the lynches ?
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LOL from that game you linked:
On December 18 2014 08:01 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 07:50 Palmar wrote:On December 18 2014 07:42 LightningStrike wrote:On December 18 2014 07:30 Palmar wrote:
Okay let's just lynch marv.
Get on the wagon guys.
##vote marvellosity Okay why you voting for him? I would like to bring me your case of Marvellosity being scum. I'm a cop, I checked him next night and came back in time from day 2 to tell you this. Night 1 didn't happen yet so you can't know his alignment even if you really are cop.
=D=D=D
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On December 03 2015 22:30 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar I don't really care about The Shining push, as it's super easy to reproduce that as scum (tunneling someone on something specific). Not that it makes scum either. 1 - Were his reads boring in that game too ? 2 - Was he apathetic and not really caring of the lynches ?
1.a little bit esp his coag read just because he hates coag.(he didn't really give a real read on coag as far I remember from rereading his filter in that game)
2. If he thinks someone is mafia he does try to lynch them but he didn't outside of me until kush made that comment about why he(kush) wanted to lynch me.
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On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar
I see Palmar being invested in a marv lynch in that game. ++ boring read
On the other hand, I also see him not being there for hours before deadline. -- apathetic behaviour
I don't think you can use that game to have a metaread on Palmar. I also have the confirmation Palmar dislikes meta:
On December 17 2014 06:04 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar I suggest you go read a standard LS game. Your push is icky. I don't do meta. You know that.
So he's probably not going to get caught on "playing his scum meta".
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OK this ++ and -- are not understandable actually p:
++ boring read => so him having boring read in this game is scum points.
-- apathetic behaviour => so him being absent around deadline is not scum points.
From the POV of LS' meta read.
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On December 03 2015 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:30 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar I don't really care about The Shining push, as it's super easy to reproduce that as scum (tunneling someone on something specific). Not that it makes scum either. 1 - Were his reads boring in that game too ? 2 - Was he apathetic and not really caring of the lynches ? 1.a little bit esp his coag read just because he hates coag.(he didn't really give a real read on coag as far I remember from rereading his filter in that game) 2. If he thinks someone is mafia he does try to lynch them but he didn't outside of me until kush made that comment about why he(kush) wanted to lynch me.
Have you ever played / obsed scum!Palmar ? What is different from what you just said ?
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On December 03 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 22:30 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar I don't really care about The Shining push, as it's super easy to reproduce that as scum (tunneling someone on something specific). Not that it makes scum either. 1 - Were his reads boring in that game too ? 2 - Was he apathetic and not really caring of the lynches ? 1.a little bit esp his coag read just because he hates coag.(he didn't really give a real read on coag as far I remember from rereading his filter in that game) 2. If he thinks someone is mafia he does try to lynch them but he didn't outside of me until kush made that comment about why he(kush) wanted to lynch me. Have you ever played / obsed scum!Palmar ? What is different from what you just said ?
Yes I have two times. first time around he tried hard Day 1 even thoguh it was in the weekend(He doesn't like playing on the weekend as town) and wass somewhat useless that entire esp just calling me a wizard for his read on me(Titanic I had a cunning plan). The 2nd game he was useless and he didn't try to do jack shit the entire game(Assassination).
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On December 03 2015 22:51 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 22:30 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar I don't really care about The Shining push, as it's super easy to reproduce that as scum (tunneling someone on something specific). Not that it makes scum either. 1 - Were his reads boring in that game too ? 2 - Was he apathetic and not really caring of the lynches ? 1.a little bit esp his coag read just because he hates coag.(he didn't really give a real read on coag as far I remember from rereading his filter in that game) 2. If he thinks someone is mafia he does try to lynch them but he didn't outside of me until kush made that comment about why he(kush) wanted to lynch me. Have you ever played / obsed scum!Palmar ? What is different from what you just said ? Yes I have two times. first time around he tried hard Day 1 even thoguh it was in the weekend(He doesn't like playing on the weekend as town) and was somewhat useless after that entire esp just calling me a wizard for his read on me(Titanic I had a cunning plan). The 2nd game he was useless and he didn't try to do jack shit the entire game(Assassination).
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