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On November 14 2015 01:13 Nos- wrote: why wouldn't you get warlords to work with his E?
oh my bad I thought deathfire touch only scaled with AP Isnt it E like one spell only? and I am not sure I can stack warlords with panth so free anyway, so I thought trowing spears will work good with deathfire
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Bearded Elder29877 Posts
On November 14 2015 01:17 M2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 01:13 Nos- wrote: why wouldn't you get warlords to work with his E?
oh my bad I thought deathfire touch only scaled with AP Isnt it E like one spell only? and I am not sure I can stack warlords with panth so free anyway, so I thought trowing spears will work good with deathfire I think you mistake Warlords with Fervor.
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I meant the E passive. You can crit minions with it and it procs warlord's heal in lane.
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On November 14 2015 01:25 Nos- wrote: I meant the E passive. You can crit minions with it and it procs warlord's heal in lane. oh yeah as 739 said I confused it with Fervor, but still I am not building critical on panth, which doesnt mean its not good only with E, don't confuse me anymore please haha, I can't even decide between Deathfire and Decree for now xD
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Decree or possibly the movement speed boost. You're much better early so 18 Cunning wins heavily over 18 Ferocity. In general 18 Cunning is going to win unless you're an ADC, have dots, or some other niche scenarios.
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can you elaborate a bit more why cunning wins over ferocity for pantheon, I am not sure I get it, since, in ferocity there are a lot of flat stats, which means good early
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You're either going 12/18 or 18/12. 18/12 gets you Deathfire and 7% ArPen. 12/18 gets you 3+.3 flatpen which is gonna be more damage on your preferred targets through pretty much the whole game.
Decree's more burst but I'd probably prefer the movespeed anyway to get the fuck out or chase more, preference/game based.
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are people going 12-18 or 18-12 on jax?
Fervor looks decent, but the hybrid flat pen in cunning looks insane, and way better then the %pen in ferocity. And thunderlords decree is hardly bad either.
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On November 14 2015 03:03 kongoline wrote: fervor is broken on jax But so is dual flat penetration
hmm, i guess it does synergise really well with guinsoos though
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u need to do the math but i doubt -4mr is going to outperform +30AD u get from fervor early game (u get -7% arm pen from ferocity so armor pen from precision isnt such a big deal)
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On November 14 2015 03:08 killerdog wrote:But so is dual flat penetration hmm, i guess it does synergise really well with guinsoos though a lot of the jax and irelia player's i've been seeing take fervor and go rageblade + corrupting pot
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Jax and Irelia is pretty op right now, corrupting pot start + fervor makes it impossible to win trades pre 6 and after 6, then you just build trinity/rageblade/botrk/hextech it doesnt matter you stomp and still be tanky
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What main 18th mastery on Garen??
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United States37500 Posts
Probably one of the ones in Resolve tree.
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On November 14 2015 05:39 NeoIllusions wrote: Probably one of the ones in Resolve tree. yeah but neither looks practically appealing, I guess the one with damage reduction I don't know
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United States37500 Posts
Actually I take it back. Fervor is fine for Garen. 18/0/12 like majority of AD Top
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Too bad Warlord's only procs on AAs, not any spell damage with a crit like Pantheon Q or Garen E
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On November 14 2015 06:21 krndandaman wrote: i'm just amazed at the amount of damage every champion does now. if you ever fall behind pretty much nearly everyone can tower dive you including adc's. it's quite scary
pretty sure 1-2 man carry shows just got much stronger. reminds me of s3 kinda. Yea, except no Ahri or Zed.
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