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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On November 13 2015 18:06 Ketara wrote: Warlords is actually the only keystone that affects minions. At least according to tooltips. Not sure how Riot missed that one  Fervor for Battle does too. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On November 13 2015 12:41 padfoota wrote: On the other hand Khazix is fucking broken. I hit level 6 or 7, evolved my Q, went to gank bot lane cait + lux, and each of my isolated Q did close to half max hp with the new warriors 60ad. I havent even bought the armor pen quints yet Are you sure the 15 bonus AD (which amounts to 39 damage on isolated Q) beats applying 10 ArPen to the 350+ damage enhanced isolated Q does by itself? After some quick math (assuming 10 AD from runes so 70 bonus AD with the new Warrior, 7% ArPen, level 3 Q, and 50 armour on the target) it appears to do slightly more, but my stats favour bonus AD slightly, and since the ArPen gets better with additional points in Q and more AD, on top of benefitting his autoattacks. So, yeah, I'd still call that a nerf, as the price increase means you won't get it earlier than before either. Hunter's potion feels like a trap indeed. How about the mana sustain for mages with the new doran's ring and flask? I assume top people don't dump 500 into the flask because they want their rageblade or whatever asap. Feels like going double dring into catalyst as Maokai will be much much weaker for trading and playing aggressively. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
Are you sure about that? It's not supposed to, by the wording. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On November 13 2015 18:28 Alaric wrote: Are you sure the 15 bonus AD (which amounts to 39 damage on isolated Q) beats applying 10 ArPen to the 350+ damage enhanced isolated Q does by itself? After some quick math (assuming 10 AD from runes so 70 bonus AD with the new Warrior, 7% ArPen, level 3 Q, and 50 armour on the target) it appears to do slightly more, but my stats favour bonus AD slightly, and since the ArPen gets better with additional points in Q and more AD, on top of benefitting his autoattacks. So, yeah, I'd still call that a nerf, as the price increase means you won't get it earlier than before either. Hunter's potion feels like a trap indeed. How about the mana sustain for mages with the new doran's ring and flask? I assume top people don't dump 500 into the flask because they want their rageblade or whatever asap. Feels like going double dring into catalyst as Maokai will be much much weaker for trading and playing aggressively. Kha should be going 18 in cunning, which doesn't have access to 7% amorpen. | ||
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NpG)Explosive
France994 Posts
On November 13 2015 18:31 TheHumanSensation wrote: Are you sure about that? It's not supposed to, by the wording. I just tried in a custom, fervor wasn't doing extra damage to camps. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On that note the most noticeable difference in this preseason is that I don't know automatically what to build, or what the significance of what the other team are building is. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
On November 13 2015 18:56 Osmoses wrote: Saw a kayle with Guinsoo last night. Gosh. On that note the most noticeable difference in this preseason is that I don't know automatically what to build, or what the significance of what the other team are building is. Yeah I am a bit lost on the builds as well, struggling to find out optimal items relatively to timings. This is on one side, on the other is like yeah build whatever makes you happy, play your cute little games with the junglers and other laners, enjoy it while it lasts, because sooner or later the bot lane demigods will come and wipe everything out xD hahaha | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
Shiv rapidfirecannon IE feels really nice. Then, you can just build situationally after depending on game ie if you need death's dance, LDR, mercurial, PD, bork etc. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On November 13 2015 15:24 739 wrote: What masteries you use for Vi/Hecarim btw? And which machete upgrades/build do you prefer? i haven't found a keystone that really stands out for either of them yet. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1r0noxj.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rcyWU2U.png) chilling smite->warrior | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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739
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On November 14 2015 00:16 739 wrote: Mhm same here, I have Fervor of Battle on Hecarim and Vi both. Any changes on runes or standard for AD jungle? have you tried the move speed on damage keystone? it sounds nice but i'd have to give up the 7% arpen from the offense tree to do it | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On November 14 2015 00:35 Frolossus wrote: have you tried the move speed on damage keystone? it sounds nice but i'd have to give up the 7% arpen from the offense tree to do it Sometimes I wonder why I say things in GD. On topic, for Vi I'd probably at first guess go 12/0/18 and take hand of the free BotRK overpowered bullshit I don't remember what the name is off the top of my head. Really not sure why you'd get fervor of battle on a Vi she really doesn't aa enough in a teamfight for it to be high value. Hecarim I dont know I've literally never played him. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
It depends on what you're gonna buy. If you're gonna buy damage go Thunderlords, if you're gonna buy HP go 12/0/18 with hand o' bullshit. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
oh my bad I thought deathfire touch only scaled with AP | ||
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