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If you've played around on the new patch and have some secret TL-op builds we should try out, post about them here! http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-strategy/498168-patch-522-what-is-marksman-gameplay-discussion
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-13 16:18:40
November 13 2015 16:17 GMT
#161
On November 14 2015 01:13 Nos- wrote:
why wouldn't you get warlords to work with his E?

oh my bad I thought deathfire touch only scaled with AP

Isnt it E like one spell only? and I am not sure I can stack warlords with panth so free anyway, so I thought trowing spears will work good with deathfire
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
November 13 2015 16:19 GMT
#162
On November 14 2015 01:17 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 01:13 Nos- wrote:
why wouldn't you get warlords to work with his E?

oh my bad I thought deathfire touch only scaled with AP

Isnt it E like one spell only? and I am not sure I can stack warlords with panth so free anyway, so I thought trowing spears will work good with deathfire

I think you mistake Warlords with Fervor.
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
November 13 2015 16:25 GMT
#163
I meant the E passive. You can crit minions with it and it procs warlord's heal in lane.
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
November 13 2015 16:28 GMT
#164
On November 14 2015 01:25 Nos- wrote:
I meant the E passive. You can crit minions with it and it procs warlord's heal in lane.

oh yeah as 739 said I confused it with Fervor, but still I am not building critical on panth, which doesnt mean its not good only with E, don't confuse me anymore please haha, I can't even decide between Deathfire and Decree for now xD
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
November 13 2015 17:45 GMT
#165
Decree or possibly the movement speed boost. You're much better early so 18 Cunning wins heavily over 18 Ferocity. In general 18 Cunning is going to win unless you're an ADC, have dots, or some other niche scenarios.
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
November 13 2015 17:49 GMT
#166
can you elaborate a bit more why cunning wins over ferocity for pantheon, I am not sure I get it, since, in ferocity there are a lot of flat stats, which means good early
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
November 13 2015 17:54 GMT
#167
You're either going 12/18 or 18/12. 18/12 gets you Deathfire and 7% ArPen. 12/18 gets you 3+.3 flatpen which is gonna be more damage on your preferred targets through pretty much the whole game.

Decree's more burst but I'd probably prefer the movespeed anyway to get the fuck out or chase more, preference/game based.
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killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
November 13 2015 17:59 GMT
#168
are people going 12-18 or 18-12 on jax?

Fervor looks decent, but the hybrid flat pen in cunning looks insane, and way better then the %pen in ferocity. And thunderlords decree is hardly bad either.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 13 2015 18:03 GMT
#169
fervor is broken on jax
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-13 18:19:23
November 13 2015 18:08 GMT
#170
On November 14 2015 03:03 kongoline wrote:
fervor is broken on jax

But so is dual flat penetration

hmm, i guess it does synergise really well with guinsoos though
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-13 18:50:05
November 13 2015 18:21 GMT
#171
u need to do the math but i doubt -4mr is going to outperform +30AD u get from fervor early game (u get -7% arm pen from ferocity so armor pen from precision isnt such a big deal)
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 13 2015 18:31 GMT
#172
On November 14 2015 03:08 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 03:03 kongoline wrote:
fervor is broken on jax

But so is dual flat penetration

hmm, i guess it does synergise really well with guinsoos though

a lot of the jax and irelia player's i've been seeing take fervor and go rageblade + corrupting pot
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 13 2015 19:22 GMT
#173
Jax and Irelia is pretty op right now, corrupting pot start + fervor makes it impossible to win trades pre 6 and after 6, then you just build trinity/rageblade/botrk/hextech it doesnt matter you stomp and still be tanky
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
November 13 2015 20:34 GMT
#174
What main 18th mastery on Garen??
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 13 2015 20:39 GMT
#175
Probably one of the ones in Resolve tree.
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
November 13 2015 20:43 GMT
#176
On November 14 2015 05:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
Probably one of the ones in Resolve tree.

yeah but neither looks practically appealing, I guess the one with damage reduction I don't know
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 13 2015 20:48 GMT
#177
Actually I take it back. Fervor is fine for Garen. 18/0/12 like majority of AD Top
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
November 13 2015 21:16 GMT
#178
Too bad Warlord's only procs on AAs, not any spell damage with a crit like Pantheon Q or Garen E
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 13 2015 21:21 GMT
#179
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
November 13 2015 22:00 GMT
#180
On November 14 2015 06:21 krndandaman wrote:
i'm just amazed at the amount of damage every champion does now. if you ever fall behind pretty much nearly everyone can tower dive you including adc's. it's quite scary

pretty sure 1-2 man carry shows just got much stronger. reminds me of s3 kinda.

Yea, except no Ahri or Zed.
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