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Vivax
21682 Posts
Are you telling me there is? | ||
Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
Which is not the way to go. Now get on rayn/Chromatically instead and it should be a decent lynch. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On October 24 2015 04:00 Chromatically wrote: Yes, I'll take your word for it that those statements are true. Then, in your post, you used those games to imply that I don't give townreads as town, which is a clearly untrue statement you made based on very flimsy evidence. There's no point splitting hairs over this, you should know what I meant. I said on d1 and prove your statement i went into the 2nd to last towngame you played and the only townread you gave d1 was as a direct response to a question, you never offered one unbidden (unlike this game and Order) go show me you giving unbidden townreads as town because i can find you doing it as mafia but not as town | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On October 24 2015 04:03 Xatalos wrote: Btw less than 2 hours to lynch and Slam is still getting lynched. Which is not the way to go. Now get on rayn/Chromatically instead and it should be a decent lynch. all the best townplayers on Slam Slam isn't the way to go pro xata logic as always | ||
Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On October 24 2015 04:04 marvellosity wrote: all the best townplayers on Slam Slam isn't the way to go pro xata logic as always It remains questionable if the majority of people voting for Slam are even town. In any case, Hopeless and yamato are hardly "top players". | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
me/rayn/yamato pretty good | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
And I've been putting thoughts on Rayn. His flip one is bad. He said it was very unlikely I was scum and that I was very level headed with my read in Vivax. Then Vivax said something about me scum reading him before asking questions, and Rayn agreed and called me scum over the same posts he called me "very unlikely to be mafia". It doesn't make sense. I'm voting rayn | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On October 24 2015 03:03 Xatalos wrote: Hm Onegu's return seems okay... Although why is rayn 90% town? Elaborate? I have started to read rayn completely on how he reacts with me. If he is more buddy to me its likely he is scum. If he is bitching about my play he is town. Oh he enjoys playing with me but wants to win more as town so he wants me to do more. | ||
Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
Well, tbh it might be better to focus on this game now. I think your vote on Chromatically is fine enough. I may drop my own vote on him if need be. It's just that I'm not totally confident about him and rayn seems like the clearer choice. | ||
Vivax
21682 Posts
I'm not 100 % sold on Chrom. One of the things that give me pause is that he goes for unusual angles of attack, but in a rather flexible way compared to, say,GB. I can sum up GB like this: Spends like a page of filter talking about me, the argument switch thingy, then moans and bitches about Onegu not being scumread over him, some emotional outburst here and there, after bitching about Onegu he pops a vote on BH for reasons I don't really understand (then BH comes in and is BFF with GB no questions asked but whatever, that's a thing apart), then he suddenly feels enlightened and makes public he was doing a shitty push after asking some really weird questions I don't understand the point of up to this point, and then unvotes and kinda afks. | ||
gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On October 24 2015 03:53 yamato77 wrote: you bore me what do you think about them? going back now and explaining why I thought those things at that time is pointless not much has changed These are simple questions and it's important you answer, earlier I asked bh questions, he answered in a convincing way so I town read him. I'm doing the same thing now. If your actually town and you dont want me to waste time tunneling you then please answer. Also I'm not asking you to pull more reads out of your ass, I'm just asking you to explain ones you've already given. Which is something you should do right away if you want to avoid being bored by nosy gumshoes / : so once again, why the slam scum read early on. Why the hopeless town read. | ||
Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On July 15 2013 05:31 Chromatically wrote: I have to rewrite this because my computer crashed, so I'm just going to c/p the parts that hz wrote (without the quotes from Super). Original case is here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420227¤tpage=28#549 The Super Case This isn't scummy. I've already talked about this at length, but everyone's first priority is to stay alive. If there was suspicion on me, my first priority is to remove it. Ask yourself: what would you do if you walked into the thread and there was a case on you? You'd defend yourself. ? His reason makes sense. He didn't have time to do anything more than skim, so he called out someone he thought was lurking. Not particularly townie, but not at all scummy. This isn't scummy. Bad reads =/= scum, bad townies make bad reads all of the time. You say there's no town motivation, but there's really no scum motivation. Scum know that they won't get a mislynch on you, so they have no reason to scumread you. I didn't really understand what he was saying in that sentence. This isn't scummy. This is bad reasoning. Bad reasoning often comes from bad town. If anything, this is overzealous scumhunting. This, once again, isn't scummy. If I say that I want a scumread to post more, that does NOT mean that I'm planning on replying to them. All it means is that I want them to post their reads and reasoning more often. I'm probably NOT going to reply to them, most of the time, unless I have something in particular to say. I cannot understand why you think this is bad. Once again, bad logic =/= scum. Why would a scum player say that they were just giving reads in self defense? I'll admit that this is a decent point though. So almost all of hz's case is stuff that isn't scummy. When I look at Super's filter, I see someone who's at least trying to find scum and share their reads freely. This is way more than you can say for Kirby. On July 13 2013 14:04 Chromatically wrote: Yes, we'll technically never be able to totally disprove the possibility that Stim is town. It's just far less likely. Look at what Stim has done. Lie about his anger Town motivation: none Scum motivation: screwed up the explanation because the anger was faked in the first place Martyr Town motivation: none, far more likely that he just explains Scum motivation: knows he can't explain, so he acts emotional to get people to switch Day 1 from Newbie XLIV, my second most recent town game. Accidentally posted it in that game so whoops. | ||
Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On October 24 2015 04:06 marvellosity wrote: yamato is a good townplayer when he actually plays, which is all too rare. me/rayn/yamato pretty good It feels extremely questionable to sheep you three when yamato is hardly playing at all, rayn is 100% scumreading me for BS reasons and you're defending rayn for almost as bad of reasons. | ||
GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 24 2015 04:08 Vivax wrote: Anyway enough joking. I'm not 100 % sold on Chrom. One of the things that give me pause is that he goes for unusual angles of attack, but in a rather flexible way compared to, say,GB. I can sum up GB like this: Spends like a page of filter talking about me, the argument switch thingy, then moans and bitches about Onegu not being scumread over him, some emotional outburst here and there, after bitching about Onegu he pops a vote on BH for reasons I don't really understand (then BH comes in and is BFF with GB no questions asked but whatever, that's a thing apart), then he suddenly feels enlightened and makes public he was doing a shitty push after asking some really weird questions I don't understand the point of up to this point, and then unvotes and kinda afks. I didn't bitch because I was being voted over onegu. I was bitching because I couldn't understand how the same fact could grant a player a scum read and another player just a null read, especially when sheeping a bad case is way worse than actually bringing a bad case. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On October 24 2015 04:07 GlowingBear wrote: I don't want to lynch chromatically. Especially now that Vivax is voting him. And I've been putting thoughts on Rayn. His flip one is bad. He said it was very unlikely I was scum and that I was very level headed with my read in Vivax. Then Vivax said something about me scum reading him before asking questions, and Rayn agreed and called me scum over the same posts he called me "very unlikely to be mafia". It doesn't make sense. I'm voting rayn ofc you are. obviously you vote for your townread, who was a townread AFTER i scumread you, which is why you are now voting for me. this game is hilarious. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
srsly? okay. nothing further your honour | ||
Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On October 24 2015 04:09 Xatalos wrote: It feels extremely questionable to sheep you three when yamato is hardly playing at all, rayn is 100% scumreading me for BS reasons and you're defending rayn for almost as bad of reasons. this is why you are not a competent townplayer | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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