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Onegu might be town, hes very soft in pushing his reads but we agree on several accounts. Gonna unvote.
Chrom feels pretty active/emotional, dont wanna lynch him.
Rayn strikes me as sincere but misguided, exactly how I would imagine a townie. We have expectations of veteran players, but truth is bieng right from the get go in a game of mafia can be more about luck than anything else. So no, I wont vote him today.
Slam is playing too sensible, dont wanna discourage this by killing him.
gb is town, unless hes scum with slam his reactions plus the way he protected him take him totally off my list.
I kind of need yam to answer mah questions before I can say anything else.
Today I'd be willing to lynch Ritoky, who has totally disappeared and needs to be on more peoples radar. 20 hours as of right now since he last posted.
Hopeless is also a target, but everyone seems to magically think hes town so I guess he gets a pass.
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BH's meta on me 100% accurate
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On October 24 2015 04:26 ritoky wrote:
alright. here and ready to sheep. who am i sheeping?
Sheep me, vote rayn.
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none taken, can't disagree at all 
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On October 24 2015 04:27 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 19:28 marvellosity wrote:
the funny thing is, one thing that makes me unsure about GB being mafia - both rayn and I stated pretty early that Vivax was town and I think it was kinda obvious we were serious about it. So I guess GB-mafia in that instance somehow decides to go against both me and rayn and push a very weak meta case? it's practically suicidal. maybe he's just town and believes it... dno right now and btw this is what GB does as scum. He basically does something that is "too scummy to be scum" then, when called out for it he says "mafia would never do that so i am not mafia". Hell he isn't even really defending his read (see Trfel/Damdred last game), he just says "i would not pick Vivax as my target as mafia because people are townreading him". eh, I guess I see what you're getting at here but compared to the significantly worse issues on hand (low contribution players) is GB the ideal lynch today? If this is really the case, the truth will out in the next day anyways Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 23:50 marvellosity wrote:
i'll probably choose between GB/Slam if rayn's meta point on Chrome holds up What's the case on Slam? Any detail on this would be good, I generally have difficulty wrapping my head around Slam. Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 23:50 marvellosity wrote:
i'll probably choose between GB/Slam if rayn's meta point on Chrome holds up Read the last scumgame in database, mainly Koshi's case on him D1. Also what Koshi says there holds up on GoT game aswell. Thanks for this info, but next time, a link would be so much nicer! Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 00:11 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately I think a rayn/marv scumteam makes sense.
Because I have difficulties seeing why town marv would defend rayn based on something that never actually happened, in the first moments of the game, and ignoring everything rayn said afterwards.... Even though rayn already has like 7 pages of filter. Marv is NOT SCUM. MARV IS NOT SCUm MARV IS NOT SCUM Look, last game (student XV) Marv was scum and he was so disappointed to roll sucm again he like, conceded during NIGHT 1. MARV IS PLAYING THE GAME, THEREFORE HE IS NOT SCUM. IF Marv was scum, he would basicallyc ontinue to be a super whiny baby and not play. Marv was SUCH A WHINY BABY. UGH. He basically ruined a whole newbie game (a newbie game!) because of what a whiny baby he was about rolling scum. Do you really think he somehow shaped up and stopped being a whiny baby? No, Marv is gonna be a whiny baby until he plays a game or two as town or takes a break. This is true.
I think the high amount of veteran players in this game might help in that regard, but I can understand your point....
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I mean, he might be more motivated since the players aren't newbies? But... if that's really the case, then I can understand why you're townreading him.
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Actually I think you said this before, but I already forgot.
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On October 24 2015 04:23 Xatalos wrote:
Onegu... Are you really sure about your rayn read? Because you said that town rayn "wants you to do more". But here his reactions to you have been basically like "I don't want to talk with you", "shut up and sheep". Is that him wanting you to do more? Well, it's not exactly buddying either, but...
No not really but def dont think he is the lynch today. I wouldnt lynch him today for sure I am that comfortable.
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BH - re: Slam
there was the post I quoted of his earlier, the post where he originally has a go at rayn about his vote on him. The post where he says he'll never get lynched before lylo and rayn is suspicious for going after LHF.
Well the thing is, Slam as town has always somewhat reconciled himself to being lynched. In fact, he's often asked to be lynched so he doesn't burden his team later on.
This meta may well have changed, he's become more self-confident or whatever. But I think the switch to "you are voting me therefore you are suspicious, and i am unlynchable" is too much.
After this post he kinda periodically quotes rayn and calls his posts suspicious, based on not very much.
Then when I also become suspicious of Slam, he doesn't really think why I might be suspicious of him, he just lumps me as mafia along with rayn. It's the true definition of omgus because he doesn't actually have any other reason to be suspicious of me other than the fact I am voting for him.
He makes posts like "the way marv and rayn are arrogant this game is telling" without explaining how it's telling.
I'm seeing no passion, no fire, no sparks of... anything in his play.
Is it a slam dunk case? No, it isn't. But i have reasons to townread a lot of other people so my pool is kinda smallish. Can't see why he should be town.
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lol
"slam" dunk
i'm a genius
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On October 24 2015 04:32 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 04:23 Xatalos wrote:
Onegu... Are you really sure about your rayn read? Because you said that town rayn "wants you to do more". But here his reactions to you have been basically like "I don't want to talk with you", "shut up and sheep". Is that him wanting you to do more? Well, it's not exactly buddying either, but... No not really but def dont think he is the lynch today. I wouldnt lynch him today for sure I am that comfortable.
Really... because I can't see your meta argument really holding up this game...
But in any case. If not rayn, which players would you want to lynch?
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On October 24 2015 04:27 marvellosity wrote:
anyone not-xatalos
I'm more town than yourself? I'm glad.
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just found a joint i rolled earlier and then lost
excellent news
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reading the thread...wondering what happened to BH the 2nd half of this phase.
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On October 24 2015 00:16 gumshoe wrote:
Gb- I rather not lynch him, his tunnel onto Vivax is probs wrong, but then again I havent really dug into vivax, (but I dont like how he turned around onto Gb / : the guy whose tunneling you tends to be a really easy mark for maf, they can just focus them till lynch and not contribute elsewise, which is pretty much were vivax is at, also I dont like detailed excuses*he done it twice now#),. Overall I think hes just a derpie townie who got caught up in a tunnel with a player whose more null than scummy and now feels compelled to stand his ground. Def been there.
This seems spot on
On October 24 2015 00:16 gumshoe wrote:
Xata- I dont feel hes done little enough good or plenty enough wrong to warrant a lynch today. I could elaborate but meh.
I still feel pretty good about chrom and Ritoky(less so about ritoky, but in his defense rayn is kind of a black hole that absorbs all your attention at times) so atm I wouldn't vote them today.
Until someone can magically explain why Onegu and Hopeless deserve the benefit of the doubt, my vote will probally fall on them.
etween Xat, Chrom, ritoky, Onegu, and hopeless1 I see no serious statements differentiating them, other than that you want to lynch onegu and Hopeless1 from the other three without any explanation? What's the deal broseph??? You must have REASONS for this. You say "unless someone can magically explain..." but your'e the one with magical explanations here. Or magical lack of explanations. Man up and post some.
On October 24 2015 00:16 gumshoe wrote:
People I need to read more into -Bh(has seemed rather useless as of late) Slam, been letting him off cause Slam, but thats not a good reason to neglect his filter T_T small as it may be.
No input on the slam case!!??
Pul it together brometheius
On October 24 2015 00:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, fuck this shit then, lynch me.
After I flip, go against Marv because I can't possibly see how can't he see me as town + not willing to lynch Onegu when Onegu has done NOTHING but sheeping me onto the same read he scum reads me for.
I'm voting Marv but I know all you pussies won't because he is Marv. And it seems again that he isn't so good as you say.
Yeah, see my meta read on MArv. From the XV scum QT (this game is over so the QT is ok to link) http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/zRTyp8RMU5dNs
: "i was never going to try this game very much if i rolled mafia anyway  "
"it kinda takes me time to recharge my scum batteries, and i've only played 48h of town since i tried pretty hard as mafia last.
batteries low. i will play though. just poorly."
"*giggles*
we're gonna lose so hilariously hard, it'll be great."
Then, night 1:
"##concede
nothing left for me here"
and he had a crappy like 2 page filter
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494452-student-mafia-xv?user=marvellosity&view=all
the difference is palpable.
In any case, I'm beating a dead horse here so I'll leave it aloen but anyone voting marv is not paying attention to the obvious evidence here.
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On October 24 2015 04:36 marvellosity wrote:
just found a joint i rolled earlier and then lost
excellent news
drugs and smoking are bad for your health.
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On October 24 2015 04:32 marvellosity wrote:
BH - re: Slam
there was the post I quoted of his earlier, the post where he originally has a go at rayn about his vote on him. The post where he says he'll never get lynched before lylo and rayn is suspicious for going after LHF.
Well the thing is, Slam as town has always somewhat reconciled himself to being lynched. In fact, he's often asked to be lynched so he doesn't burden his team later on.
This meta may well have changed, he's become more self-confident or whatever. But I think the switch to "you are voting me therefore you are suspicious, and i am unlynchable" is too much.
After this post he kinda periodically quotes rayn and calls his posts suspicious, based on not very much.
Then when I also become suspicious of Slam, he doesn't really think why I might be suspicious of him, he just lumps me as mafia along with rayn. It's the true definition of omgus because he doesn't actually have any other reason to be suspicious of me other than the fact I am voting for him.
He makes posts like "the way marv and rayn are arrogant this game is telling" without explaining how it's telling.
I'm seeing no passion, no fire, no sparks of... anything in his play.
Is it a slam dunk case? No, it isn't. But i have reasons to townread a lot of other people so my pool is kinda smallish. Can't see why he should be town.
hmmm
The truth is, I liked his posts about you/rayn/marv quite a bit when I read them.
If you say no passion, then there's already a ton more of effort so far than all along in his last scumgame.
Can't say I can read him well though.
It's just that he's pretty much said all the same things I've thought.
Hard to see him being scum after all that.
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yes but you scumside so that should make you tihnk he is mafia
ritoky: i know, but lots of fun things are bad for your health
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if xata wasn't so terrible the wagons could be chrome-slam instead of rayn-slam and then our chances of hitting mafia would increase exponentially
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