On October 21 2015 04:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can you explain why the one who start the wagon on a town are town enough to paint green?
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On October 20 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:
People pointed that post out already but I think the really interesting thing here is that this is the vote that hammered scott. sicklucker said he'd be up for shennanies and he was around at EoD - so it wasn't just dumping the vote on scott but it was the vote that did not get Eversince hanged.
Thing is that he pushes Kelsier, backs off, does nothing, sheeps the biggest wagon. I understand that the unvote of Kelsier makes sense, town should re-evaluate. But the lack of participation and the "I do nothing" sheep of Rels is bullshit. I mean the guy isn't active for most of the day then comes in only to say this and back out again? I don't get it. Tbh that's bad scum play as well as bad town play. I expect more D2.
Eversince looks bad but I think it's a "bad town" category of bad and not a scum thing. That brings me to Farah who I insta-townread for the case on Eversince, I think it's decent, well-written and logical. Such a case isn't made by a newbie D1 on a scum partner. So it's either town!Eversince and town!Farah or town!Eversince and scum!Farah or scum!Eversince and town!Farah. We should keep that in mind, if one of them flips scum, the other one is pretty much confirmed town.
The conversation on p37 between Kelsier and Eversince is also quite interesting. Makes Eversince looks bad, again. The only thing ES has going for him is the effort he puts in, I don't think scum needs to do this after the flip happened.
Also I want to put more pressure on Moosy but he didn't spam up the thread anymore and caught decent things such as this.
I'll refrain from my scum read for now. I actually think Moosy is doing a better job by now.
Here are my reads mirrored in the final vote count:
It is very well possible that scum hides between MD/FF/LM, no matter if both wagons are town or the Eversince wagon was targeted at scum. Since I said above that I refrain from my MD scumread, in this scenario most likely scum should be hidden between FF/LM/ES, pushing the mislynch that town people started.
The one guy voting outside of both wagons (to simply stay unreadable?) would be sicklucker. Wouldn't be bad scum play I think since basically voting outside the wagons is NAI (at least as long as we do not know both flips) - I don't have a strong scumread on him but I don't have a townread as well so yeah. I don't want to let go of the theory of sicklucker being scum and voting outside but the fact that he asked for shennanies says to me that he should be leaned town.
I have a gut feeling on Shining that I need to feed with arguments. Maybe I'll change my thoughts towards him but as of now, I got a scumlean on him. Same goes for FecalFeast, my reads on those two aren't fed with strong facts but are more a gut (and low activity/filler posts) thingy.
Concluding, I think it's very likely that we have two scum members on the scott wagon. The wagon went off decently and was not fought too hard, although the lynch was kind of close.
On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.
##vote: scott31337
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.
##vote: scott31337
People pointed that post out already but I think the really interesting thing here is that this is the vote that hammered scott. sicklucker said he'd be up for shennanies and he was around at EoD - so it wasn't just dumping the vote on scott but it was the vote that did not get Eversince hanged.
Thing is that he pushes Kelsier, backs off, does nothing, sheeps the biggest wagon. I understand that the unvote of Kelsier makes sense, town should re-evaluate. But the lack of participation and the "I do nothing" sheep of Rels is bullshit. I mean the guy isn't active for most of the day then comes in only to say this and back out again? I don't get it. Tbh that's bad scum play as well as bad town play. I expect more D2.
Eversince looks bad but I think it's a "bad town" category of bad and not a scum thing. That brings me to Farah who I insta-townread for the case on Eversince, I think it's decent, well-written and logical. Such a case isn't made by a newbie D1 on a scum partner. So it's either town!Eversince and town!Farah or town!Eversince and scum!Farah or scum!Eversince and town!Farah. We should keep that in mind, if one of them flips scum, the other one is pretty much confirmed town.
The conversation on p37 between Kelsier and Eversince is also quite interesting. Makes Eversince looks bad, again. The only thing ES has going for him is the effort he puts in, I don't think scum needs to do this after the flip happened.
Also I want to put more pressure on Moosy but he didn't spam up the thread anymore and caught decent things such as this.
On October 20 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
mmm...Eversince's change in story is vaguely concerning to be honest.
mmm...Eversince's change in story is vaguely concerning to be honest.
On October 20 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me?
On October 20 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
What change in story?
What change in story?
Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me?
I'll refrain from my scum read for now. I actually think Moosy is doing a better job by now.
Here are my reads mirrored in the final vote count:
On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast/Eversince/Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337 , Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker
Day 1 Vote Count
scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast/Eversince/Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337 , Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker
It is very well possible that scum hides between MD/FF/LM, no matter if both wagons are town or the Eversince wagon was targeted at scum. Since I said above that I refrain from my MD scumread, in this scenario most likely scum should be hidden between FF/LM/ES, pushing the mislynch that town people started.
The one guy voting outside of both wagons (to simply stay unreadable?) would be sicklucker. Wouldn't be bad scum play I think since basically voting outside the wagons is NAI (at least as long as we do not know both flips) - I don't have a strong scumread on him but I don't have a townread as well so yeah. I don't want to let go of the theory of sicklucker being scum and voting outside but the fact that he asked for shennanies says to me that he should be leaned town.
I have a gut feeling on Shining that I need to feed with arguments. Maybe I'll change my thoughts towards him but as of now, I got a scumlean on him. Same goes for FecalFeast, my reads on those two aren't fed with strong facts but are more a gut (and low activity/filler posts) thingy.
Concluding, I think it's very likely that we have two scum members on the scott wagon. The wagon went off decently and was not fought too hard, although the lynch was kind of close.
Can you explain why the one who start the wagon on a town are town enough to paint green?
I thought his case was good. His points on scott were legit. Thus a town read. Being wrong on D1 is no shame.