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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:14 GMT
#841
Good job on putting suspicion on me after GB and Vonthin did it though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:15 GMT
#842
Alright going to sleep. Kill SL. See you tomorrow.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 20 2015 20:15 GMT
#843
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:15 GMT
#844
Is rels rly the veg...?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:16 GMT
#845
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?

Are you fucking voting an un CC vig in a setup where we know there is only one vig / cop.
I'm sure you'll find what you need in some post I made not long ago. And that I quoted even less long ago.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:17 GMT
#846
first off I claimed a shot on ff as a joke not on lm. I just went with the claim because I knew mafia would believe me and I thought the veg was in more sensible hands
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:17 GMT
#847
On October 21 2015 05:15 sicklucker wrote:
Is rels rly the veg...?

LOL =D
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 20 2015 20:17 GMT
#848
On October 21 2015 05:14 sicklucker wrote:
Hes confirmed town tho... Mafia would have killed me tonight I would have flipped vt then you could have claimed after that and we would have a confirmed town for an extra day and the other pr would be more safe


If you're really VT here I can't say how stupid this was SL. I can't.

And you're listening this from a guy who is known for doing stupid things.

(Unless it is Himalayas. Himalayas was incredible play but people don't have the brains to understand how brilliant it was)
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:17 GMT
#849
On October 21 2015 05:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?

Are you fucking voting an un CC vig in a setup where we know there is only one vig / cop.
I'm sure you'll find what you need in some post I made not long ago. And that I quoted even less long ago.


yep he is probably proof hes town tbh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:18 GMT
#850
Well good night. Anyone not voting SL when I wake up is his teammate in my mind. GB, do what you need.
Ignore the guy and start talking about his teammates please.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 20 2015 20:18 GMT
#851
On October 21 2015 05:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?

Are you fucking voting an un CC vig in a setup where we know there is only one vig / cop.
I'm sure you'll find what you need in some post I made not long ago. And that I quoted even less long ago.


Oooooops I was going to vote SL AND question you. Instead I've put you in the vote LOLOLOLOL

##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:19 GMT
#852
On October 21 2015 05:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:14 sicklucker wrote:
Hes confirmed town tho... Mafia would have killed me tonight I would have flipped vt then you could have claimed after that and we would have a confirmed town for an extra day and the other pr would be more safe


If you're really VT here I can't say how stupid this was SL. I can't.

And you're listening this from a guy who is known for doing stupid things.

(Unless it is Himalayas. Himalayas was incredible play but people don't have the brains to understand how brilliant it was)


dude do you not remember that game where me and onegu role swaped? you were mafia I do this shit all the time I even claimed cop as vt once and everyone including mafia believed me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:20 GMT
#853
On October 21 2015 05:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:16 Rels wrote:
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?

Are you fucking voting an un CC vig in a setup where we know there is only one vig / cop.
I'm sure you'll find what you need in some post I made not long ago. And that I quoted even less long ago.


Oooooops I was going to vote SL AND question you. Instead I've put you in the vote LOLOLOLOL

##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker

That's not true. Your post is:
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?


If you wanted to vote SL, your post would be:
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker


Why did you shoot LM?

So the question is not addressed on me anymore. You are scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:20 GMT
#854
Well, good night for real.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 20 2015 20:20 GMT
#855
On October 21 2015 05:10 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 04:52 Eversince wrote:
On October 20 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.

##vote: scott31337

People pointed that post out already but I think the really interesting thing here is that this is the vote that hammered scott. sicklucker said he'd be up for shennanies and he was around at EoD - so it wasn't just dumping the vote on scott but it was the vote that did not get Eversince hanged.

Thing is that he pushes Kelsier, backs off, does nothing, sheeps the biggest wagon. I understand that the unvote of Kelsier makes sense, town should re-evaluate. But the lack of participation and the "I do nothing" sheep of Rels is bullshit. I mean the guy isn't active for most of the day then comes in only to say this and back out again? I don't get it. Tbh that's bad scum play as well as bad town play. I expect more D2.

I addressed a lot of this and haven't seen you trying to talk to me. Like the entire reason I sheeped Rels I directly admitted to at the time. I think even Kelsier posted it in responce to someone.
+ Show Spoiler +

Eversince looks bad but I think it's a "bad town" category of bad and not a scum thing. That brings me to Farah who I insta-townread for the case on Eversince, I think it's decent, well-written and logical. Such a case isn't made by a newbie D1 on a scum partner. So it's either town!Eversince and town!Farah or town!Eversince and scum!Farah or scum!Eversince and town!Farah. We should keep that in mind, if one of them flips scum, the other one is pretty much confirmed town.
The conversation on p37 between Kelsier and Eversince is also quite interesting. Makes Eversince looks bad, again. The only thing ES has going for him is the effort he puts in, I don't think scum needs to do this after the flip happened.

How was it bad? flesh that out for me. Why would a mafia Eversince come back at the end of the day. Draw a horde of bad attention to herself, all the mistakes, and putting a bunch of time at the end of the day to at least respond on why and how I did the things I did before getting potentially (Looked like ver likely at that time.). Why put the effort? I'm thinking a mafia Eversince would of been really hoping that her team somehow saved her butt while being really quiet.
Also how was the conversation between me and Kelsier later bad?

+ Show Spoiler +

Also I want to put more pressure on Moosy but he didn't spam up the thread anymore and caught decent things such as this.
On October 20 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
mmm...Eversince's change in story is vaguely concerning to be honest.

On October 20 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
What change in story?

Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me?

I'll refrain from my scum read for now. I actually think Moosy is doing a better job by now.


Here are my reads mirrored in the final vote count:

On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast/Eversince/Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337 , Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker


+ Show Spoiler +

It is very well possible that scum hides between MD/FF/LM, no matter if both wagons are town or the Eversince wagon was targeted at scum. Since I said above that I refrain from my MD scumread, in this scenario most likely scum should be hidden between FF/LM/ES, pushing the mislynch that town people started.

if we assume I'm town this makes Lone Moew look terrible and possibly Sicklucker.
+ Show Spoiler +

The one guy voting outside of both wagons (to simply stay unreadable?) would be sicklucker. Wouldn't be bad scum play I think since basically voting outside the wagons is NAI (at least as long as we do not know both flips) - I don't have a strong scumread on him but I don't have a townread as well so yeah. I don't want to let go of the theory of sicklucker being scum and voting outside but the fact that he asked for shennanies says to me that he should be leaned town.

this is so wishy washy and him opening for shenanigans I think is null. Because a mafia Lone Moew/Sicklucker/x could have swung the vote on either lynch and still hit town
+ Show Spoiler +

I have a gut feeling on Shining that I need to feed with arguments. Maybe I'll change my thoughts towards him but as of now, I got a scumlean on him. Same goes for FecalFeast, my reads on those two aren't fed with strong facts but are more a gut (and low activity/filler posts) thingy.

Concluding, I think it's very likely that we have two scum members on the scott wagon. The wagon went off decently and was not fought too hard, although the lynch was kind of close.

Why fight over the lynch if there is no risk in just sitting back and doing nothing?


I don't even get half of what you're saying because it's really annoying to read through a quoted post with strangely placed spoilers. Point out what you want me to answer and I'll answer.


Just open all the spoilers and you have your original post and my issues with why you think them in order.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 20 2015 20:21 GMT
#856
On October 21 2015 05:18 Rels wrote:
Well good night. Anyone not voting SL when I wake up is his teammate in my mind. GB, do what you need.
Ignore the guy and start talking about his teammates please.


No, no.

Actually

When analysing sicklucker, FORGET THE CLAIM.

If he is mafia, this is a suicidal move. Which would make him town after all.
However, this may be exactly what sicklucker was after.

In other words, deciding if sicklucker is town or
Mafia based on the claim will have you basing your reasoning in WIFOM.
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:22 GMT
#857
to the newbs claiming a dead role (at first as a joke) and then as a why the hell not ill draw the nk.

Theres no way I do this as mafia theres no strategic advantage to draw out the veg cc. If i claimed cop sure but the veg is a dead role.

RELS HOW DO YOU THINK IM MAFIA HERE. i told you not to make an even better claim last game because it put you and moosy in a deadlock where one of you is always scum. I would never do this as scum and you know it your blowing my mind right now please dont leave im going to convince your moron ass
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:23 GMT
#858
On October 21 2015 05:21 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:18 Rels wrote:
Well good night. Anyone not voting SL when I wake up is his teammate in my mind. GB, do what you need.
Ignore the guy and start talking about his teammates please.


No, no.

Actually

When analysing sicklucker, FORGET THE CLAIM.

If he is mafia, this is a suicidal move. Which would make him town after all.
However, this may be exactly what sicklucker was after.

In other words, deciding if sicklucker is town or
Mafia based on the claim will have you basing your reasoning in WIFOM.


NO THE WEIRD PART IS I TOLD RELS NOT TO MAKE A SIMLIAR PLAY AS MAFIA IN ARE LAST GAME. yet he still thinks im scum. and hes are veg...
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 20 2015 20:23 GMT
#859
On October 21 2015 05:20 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 21 2015 05:16 Rels wrote:
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?

Are you fucking voting an un CC vig in a setup where we know there is only one vig / cop.
I'm sure you'll find what you need in some post I made not long ago. And that I quoted even less long ago.


Oooooops I was going to vote SL AND question you. Instead I've put you in the vote LOLOLOLOL

##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker

That's not true. Your post is:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?


If you wanted to vote SL, your post would be:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker


Why did you shoot LM?

So the question is not addressed on me anymore. You are scum.


Rels, I was with your name in my mind because I was going to direct you a question. I wrote yours instead of sickluckers and that's all. ADHD.

Are you really calling me scum for this?
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:24 GMT
#860
anyway gb be quite about this so i can get some reads off other players
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