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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 20 2015 20:08 GMT
#821
On October 21 2015 04:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:
On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.

##vote: scott31337

People pointed that post out already but I think the really interesting thing here is that this is the vote that hammered scott. sicklucker said he'd be up for shennanies and he was around at EoD - so it wasn't just dumping the vote on scott but it was the vote that did not get Eversince hanged.

Thing is that he pushes Kelsier, backs off, does nothing, sheeps the biggest wagon. I understand that the unvote of Kelsier makes sense, town should re-evaluate. But the lack of participation and the "I do nothing" sheep of Rels is bullshit. I mean the guy isn't active for most of the day then comes in only to say this and back out again? I don't get it. Tbh that's bad scum play as well as bad town play. I expect more D2.

Eversince looks bad but I think it's a "bad town" category of bad and not a scum thing. That brings me to Farah who I insta-townread for the case on Eversince, I think it's decent, well-written and logical. Such a case isn't made by a newbie D1 on a scum partner. So it's either town!Eversince and town!Farah or town!Eversince and scum!Farah or scum!Eversince and town!Farah. We should keep that in mind, if one of them flips scum, the other one is pretty much confirmed town.
The conversation on p37 between Kelsier and Eversince is also quite interesting. Makes Eversince looks bad, again. The only thing ES has going for him is the effort he puts in, I don't think scum needs to do this after the flip happened.

Also I want to put more pressure on Moosy but he didn't spam up the thread anymore and caught decent things such as this.
On October 20 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
mmm...Eversince's change in story is vaguely concerning to be honest.

On October 20 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 20 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
What change in story?

Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me?

I'll refrain from my scum read for now. I actually think Moosy is doing a better job by now.

Here are my reads mirrored in the final vote count:

On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast/Eversince/Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337 , Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker


It is very well possible that scum hides between MD/FF/LM, no matter if both wagons are town or the Eversince wagon was targeted at scum. Since I said above that I refrain from my MD scumread, in this scenario most likely scum should be hidden between FF/LM/ES, pushing the mislynch that town people started.

The one guy voting outside of both wagons (to simply stay unreadable?) would be sicklucker. Wouldn't be bad scum play I think since basically voting outside the wagons is NAI (at least as long as we do not know both flips) - I don't have a strong scumread on him but I don't have a townread as well so yeah. I don't want to let go of the theory of sicklucker being scum and voting outside but the fact that he asked for shennanies says to me that he should be leaned town.

I have a gut feeling on Shining that I need to feed with arguments. Maybe I'll change my thoughts towards him but as of now, I got a scumlean on him. Same goes for FecalFeast, my reads on those two aren't fed with strong facts but are more a gut (and low activity/filler posts) thingy.

Concluding, I think it's very likely that we have two scum members on the scott wagon. The wagon went off decently and was not fought too hard, although the lynch was kind of close.


Can you explain why the one who start the wagon on a town are town enough to paint green?

I thought his case was good. His points on scott were legit. Thus a town read. Being wrong on D1 is no shame.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:09 GMT
#822
On October 21 2015 05:04 sicklucker wrote:
Rels is probably scum since this game is hard. Hes the best scum player in this game

Good reasonning. Now that you are confirmed town I hope you start being less shitty.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:09 GMT
#823
On October 21 2015 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
idk i saw alot of towns then he comes out with a random scum read as me. just as the guy who had me as a top town read me died.

LIKE I NEVER KILL KSC AS TOWN HERE.

1. his town game does not impress me
2. Im like pretty sure I was his top town if not i was his top 3

Why are you so defensive ???
Are you hard claiming vig ?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 20 2015 20:09 GMT
#824
On October 21 2015 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
idk i saw alot of towns then he comes out with a random scum read as me. just as the guy who had me as a top town read me died.

LIKE I NEVER KILL KSC AS TOWN HERE.

1. his town game does not impress me
2. Im like pretty sure I was his top town if not i was his top 3


Why are you saying this, it's obvious you are the vigilante -.-
I'm adorable.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#825
On October 21 2015 04:52 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.

##vote: scott31337

People pointed that post out already but I think the really interesting thing here is that this is the vote that hammered scott. sicklucker said he'd be up for shennanies and he was around at EoD - so it wasn't just dumping the vote on scott but it was the vote that did not get Eversince hanged.

Thing is that he pushes Kelsier, backs off, does nothing, sheeps the biggest wagon. I understand that the unvote of Kelsier makes sense, town should re-evaluate. But the lack of participation and the "I do nothing" sheep of Rels is bullshit. I mean the guy isn't active for most of the day then comes in only to say this and back out again? I don't get it. Tbh that's bad scum play as well as bad town play. I expect more D2.

I addressed a lot of this and haven't seen you trying to talk to me. Like the entire reason I sheeped Rels I directly admitted to at the time. I think even Kelsier posted it in responce to someone.
+ Show Spoiler +

Eversince looks bad but I think it's a "bad town" category of bad and not a scum thing. That brings me to Farah who I insta-townread for the case on Eversince, I think it's decent, well-written and logical. Such a case isn't made by a newbie D1 on a scum partner. So it's either town!Eversince and town!Farah or town!Eversince and scum!Farah or scum!Eversince and town!Farah. We should keep that in mind, if one of them flips scum, the other one is pretty much confirmed town.
The conversation on p37 between Kelsier and Eversince is also quite interesting. Makes Eversince looks bad, again. The only thing ES has going for him is the effort he puts in, I don't think scum needs to do this after the flip happened.

How was it bad? flesh that out for me. Why would a mafia Eversince come back at the end of the day. Draw a horde of bad attention to herself, all the mistakes, and putting a bunch of time at the end of the day to at least respond on why and how I did the things I did before getting potentially (Looked like ver likely at that time.). Why put the effort? I'm thinking a mafia Eversince would of been really hoping that her team somehow saved her butt while being really quiet.
Also how was the conversation between me and Kelsier later bad?

+ Show Spoiler +

Also I want to put more pressure on Moosy but he didn't spam up the thread anymore and caught decent things such as this.
On October 20 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
mmm...Eversince's change in story is vaguely concerning to be honest.

On October 20 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
What change in story?

Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me?

I'll refrain from my scum read for now. I actually think Moosy is doing a better job by now.


Here are my reads mirrored in the final vote count:

On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast/Eversince/Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337 , Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker


+ Show Spoiler +

It is very well possible that scum hides between MD/FF/LM, no matter if both wagons are town or the Eversince wagon was targeted at scum. Since I said above that I refrain from my MD scumread, in this scenario most likely scum should be hidden between FF/LM/ES, pushing the mislynch that town people started.

if we assume I'm town this makes Lone Moew look terrible and possibly Sicklucker.
+ Show Spoiler +

The one guy voting outside of both wagons (to simply stay unreadable?) would be sicklucker. Wouldn't be bad scum play I think since basically voting outside the wagons is NAI (at least as long as we do not know both flips) - I don't have a strong scumread on him but I don't have a townread as well so yeah. I don't want to let go of the theory of sicklucker being scum and voting outside but the fact that he asked for shennanies says to me that he should be leaned town.

this is so wishy washy and him opening for shenanigans I think is null. Because a mafia Lone Moew/Sicklucker/x could have swung the vote on either lynch and still hit town
+ Show Spoiler +

I have a gut feeling on Shining that I need to feed with arguments. Maybe I'll change my thoughts towards him but as of now, I got a scumlean on him. Same goes for FecalFeast, my reads on those two aren't fed with strong facts but are more a gut (and low activity/filler posts) thingy.

Concluding, I think it's very likely that we have two scum members on the scott wagon. The wagon went off decently and was not fought too hard, although the lynch was kind of close.

Why fight over the lynch if there is no risk in just sitting back and doing nothing?


I don't even get half of what you're saying because it's really annoying to read through a quoted post with strangely placed spoilers. Point out what you want me to answer and I'll answer.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
October 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#826
I mean, I was literally speculating if you could possibly fit into a mafia team not 5 minutes ago.
But you guys will need a lot more than just meta to make me think he's not town right now.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#827
Of course im the veg lol
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#828
On October 21 2015 05:10 sicklucker wrote:
Of course im the veg lol

I am the vig
##Vote sicklucker
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:11 GMT
#829
Cool (=(=(=(==(=(=(=(=(=(=(=(=
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:11 GMT
#830
ok im not the vig do you know what a roleswap is?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:11 GMT
#831
Breadcrumb:
On October 21 2015 04:59 Rels wrote:
LM: focusing on only one people at a time: it is a scum mindset, so you don't make enemies while pushing your scumread. I realized I did that in my scum games, I was almost caught by rayn for exactly that reason. His vote last night was scum indicative. He is a great shot at being scum.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:11 GMT
#832
hahahahahahhahaha
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:11 GMT
#833
kill that guy
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:12 GMT
#834
Fuck this means auto lynch coming today )=
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:12 GMT
#835
rels your so... boring and dumb and its so obvious im town trying to take the nk away from real power roles gj
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:12 GMT
#836
Die scum.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:13 GMT
#837
if im mafia I dont EVER RECIND HERE because I would own the shit out of you. im vt
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:13 GMT
#838
On October 21 2015 05:12 sicklucker wrote:
rels your so... boring and dumb and its so obvious im town trying to take the nk away from real power roles gj

Vig used his shot. He is not a power role anymore. He is just a named VT.
There is no need to protect a names VT.
Die.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 20 2015 20:13 GMT
#839
On October 21 2015 05:13 sicklucker wrote:
if im mafia I dont EVER RECIND HERE because I would own the shit out of you. im vt

Stop talking to me scum. Die.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 20 2015 20:14 GMT
#840
Hes confirmed town tho... Mafia would have killed me tonight I would have flipped vt then you could have claimed after that and we would have a confirmed town for an extra day and the other pr would be more safe
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