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On October 20 2015 21:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Hello
My (slightly) hangover senses points out to rels being mafia.
That makes a combo of rels and sicklucker
And if you consider Moosy doosy voted with his main scum read, I would put him in the team.
But sicklucker makes more sense if he is with Eversince. I don't know.
I have a tendency to believe that wagons so close to each other always means one is mafia. Which isn't always true, but yeah, I have this tendency.
But really, rels insistence in sheeping/RNG looks so forced, I can't possibly believe he is town.
Are you OMGUSing my RNG vote ? Fight me bro
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On October 20 2015 22:51 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 21:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Hello
My (slightly) hangover senses points out to rels being mafia.
That makes a combo of rels and sicklucker
And if you consider Moosy doosy voted with his main scum read, I would put him in the team.
But sicklucker makes more sense if he is with Eversince. I don't know.
I have a tendency to believe that wagons so close to each other always means one is mafia. Which isn't always true, but yeah, I have this tendency.
But really, rels insistence in sheeping/RNG looks so forced, I can't possibly believe he is town. Are you OMGUSing my RNG vote ? Fight me bro
I'm not, I'm just saying that I don't think your reaction is natural. You started the game in a similar fashion as your last scum game, by having a weak suspicion and a quick revision of that. Then you just act like "O NOES I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS WRONG LEWL I'M GONNA RNG" and it isn't trustable. Yes, you were wrong, but it just looks like you're copying Rayn's reaction in the last game. He did the exact same thing. The difference is that he has been wrong on 3 people, and for now you know you have only been wrong on one, which is pretty normal and not a reason to freak out.
TL;DR: it's forced.
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GB: "Rels's post is forced"
Rels: "GB's post is forced"
Scum having a field day. However Rels keeps himself to reasoning while GB spits out theories. Let's try to ask questions:
- how does sicklucker/Eversince make sense? Why is that? I can't replicate that.
- what exactly makes sicklucker scum if Rels is scum?
Your ideas revolve around sicklucker who is (to me) the most unreadable guy in this game.
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Okay guys, I'm gone again. See ya in a few hours.
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On October 20 2015 23:19 boxerfred wrote:
GB: "Rels's post is forced"
Rels: "GB's post is forced"
Scum having a field day. However Rels keeps himself to reasoning while GB spits out theories. Let's try to ask questions:
- how does sicklucker/Eversince make sense? Why is that? I can't replicate that.
- what exactly makes sicklucker scum if Rels is scum?
Your ideas revolve around sicklucker who is (to me) the most unreadable guy in this game.
Sicklucker scumreading lone meow and wasting his vote on him without trying to convince people to vote with him was scummy. He coming back to the thread and voting scott instead of Eversince may imply he was saving his scum partner by hammering town scott. Or he simply saw me criticising him for wasting his vote and voted one of the main wagons to look good.
My point on sicklucker is: if he really thought lone meow was mafia to the point of keeping his vote on him until the very end, he should've be trying to convince people to vote lone meow. If his scum read on lone meow wasn't that strong, he should've used his time to evaluate the main wagons instead of not caring for the lynch the major part of the day.
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Oh, and there is nothing to associate?
I think rels is scum for his play.
I think sicklucker is scum for his play.
That's all.
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Rels filter looks pretty scummy to me after that Scott push. It was way too forced and there was much better cases to vote on since Scott hardly posted. I don't understand policy lynches on Day 1, we don't get that much to look at. All we really got here is to look at the votes for Scott carefully and not his interactions with potential scum so I understand why Mafia would want to push for them since there would be less evidence for them to get caught. Though Rels did push really hard and I don't see why a Mafia would put that big of a target on his back which is somewhat making me question if he really is scum.
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Hi I should probably put together a list in case I die or something.
I feel like several things still indicate that ever since is scum, the way the votes piled on town Scott makes it seem a bit strange. The promise of activity but almost none since along with some associative things heavily shows that ever is scum.
If we have a vigilante I would shoot eversonce for information on how wagons were formed and why people went where.
Lone probably looks the absolute worst out of everything yesterday. He asks me to explain my case because he's considering it and just throws a vote with a stupid reason and afks(?) that's just not town behavior at all.
SL and moos are probably the most likely in the third position. I'm leaning more towards moos because of his misrepresentation of the case on ever since and going along with boxer instead of pushing anything else. And then just not being helpful at all to town after that.
Sl still has a chance with a wasted vote, but I don't think that's as telling as others do.
If I die in pretty sure that shining is town and shouldn't be lynched. Kelsier is town even if I'm annoyed at him for not going with the stronger case during the night.
Rels I think is town as well, the way he pushed his case makes me feel that way.
Be back around deadline if anyone has any questions.
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I find it vastly irritating that I took out so much time into replying to everything people where grabbing pitchforks over, and Kelsier and a very short chirp by Moosy are to respond to any of it.
Instead of addressing any part of it that wasn't clear enough, I should just be shot huh?
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On October 20 2015 23:25 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 23:19 boxerfred wrote:
GB: "Rels's post is forced"
Rels: "GB's post is forced"
Scum having a field day. However Rels keeps himself to reasoning while GB spits out theories. Let's try to ask questions:
- how does sicklucker/Eversince make sense? Why is that? I can't replicate that.
- what exactly makes sicklucker scum if Rels is scum?
Your ideas revolve around sicklucker who is (to me) the most unreadable guy in this game. Sicklucker scumreading lone meow and wasting his vote on him without trying to convince people to vote with him was scummy. He coming back to the thread and voting scott instead of Eversince may imply he was saving his scum partner by hammering town scott. Or he simply saw me criticising him for wasting his vote and voted one of the main wagons to look good. My point on sicklucker is: if he really thought lone meow was mafia to the point of keeping his vote on him until the very end, he should've be trying to convince people to vote lone meow. If his scum read on lone meow wasn't that strong, he should've used his time to evaluate the main wagons instead of not caring for the lynch the major part of the day.
I think it looks strange that Sicklucker would do that aswell. Maby I'm jumping connections here best he's wasting his vote. At worse he's letting a mafia Lone Moew consolidate onto scott to make me look worse knowing that I'm town too and another potential mislynch?
I'm not sure where you guys are getting Rels mafia from his RNG thing. I think it's a better that he was suprised and angry that the flip ended up being town. Townie at best. Null at worse.
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On October 20 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.
##vote: scott31337 People pointed that post out already but I think the really interesting thing here is that this is the vote that hammered scott. sicklucker said he'd be up for shennanies and he was around at EoD - so it wasn't just dumping the vote on scott but it was the vote that did not get Eversince hanged. Thing is that he pushes Kelsier, backs off, does nothing, sheeps the biggest wagon. I understand that the unvote of Kelsier makes sense, town should re-evaluate. But the lack of participation and the "I do nothing" sheep of Rels is bullshit. I mean the guy isn't active for most of the day then comes in only to say this and back out again? I don't get it. Tbh that's bad scum play as well as bad town play. I expect more D2.
Eversince looks bad but I think it's a "bad town" category of bad and not a scum thing. That brings me to Farah who I insta-townread for the case on Eversince, I think it's decent, well-written and logical. Such a case isn't made by a newbie D1 on a scum partner. So it's either town!Eversince and town!Farah or town!Eversince and scum!Farah or scum!Eversince and town!Farah. We should keep that in mind, if one of them flips scum, the other one is pretty much confirmed town.
The conversation on p37 between Kelsier and Eversince is also quite interesting. Makes Eversince looks bad, again. The only thing ES has going for him is the effort he puts in, I don't think scum needs to do this after the flip happened.
Also how was the conversation between me and Kelsier later bad?
+ Show Spoiler +Also I want to put more pressure on Moosy but he didn't spam up the thread anymore and caught decent things such as this. On October 20 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
mmm...Eversince's change in story is vaguely concerning to be honest. On October 20 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me? I'll refrain from my scum read for now. I actually think Moosy is doing a better job by now. Here are my reads mirrored in the final vote count: On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:Day 1 Vote Count scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast/ Eversince/ LonemeowEversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337 , Vonthin, GlowingBear LoneMeow (1): sicklucker
It is very well possible that scum hides between MD/FF/LM, no matter if both wagons are town or the Eversince wagon was targeted at scum. Since I said above that I refrain from my MD scumread, in this scenario most likely scum should be hidden between FF/LM/ES, pushing the mislynch that town people started.
The one guy voting outside of both wagons (to simply stay unreadable?) would be sicklucker. Wouldn't be bad scum play I think since basically voting outside the wagons is NAI (at least as long as we do not know both flips) - I don't have a strong scumread on him but I don't have a townread as well so yeah. I don't want to let go of the theory of sicklucker being scum and voting outside but the fact that he asked for shennanies says to me that he should be leaned town.
I have a gut feeling on Shining that I need to feed with arguments. Maybe I'll change my thoughts towards him but as of now, I got a scumlean on him. Same goes for FecalFeast, my reads on those two aren't fed with strong facts but are more a gut (and low activity/filler posts) thingy.
Concluding, I think it's very likely that we have two scum members on the scott wagon. The wagon went off decently and was not fought too hard, although the lynch was kind of close.
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On October 20 2015 21:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Hello
My (slightly) hangover senses points out to rels being mafia.
That makes a combo of rels and sicklucker
And if you consider Moosy doosy voted with his main scum read, I would put him in the team.
But sicklucker makes more sense if he is with Eversince. I don't know.
I have a tendency to believe that wagons so close to each other always means one is mafia. Which isn't always true, but yeah, I have this tendency.
But really, rels insistence in sheeping/RNG looks so forced, I can't possibly believe he is town.
your read progression seems random. yesterday you said I was town because im not making sense. you said i make sense as mafia.
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On October 20 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.
##vote: scott31337 People pointed that post out already but I think the really interesting thing here is that this is the vote that hammered scott. sicklucker said he'd be up for shennanies and he was around at EoD - so it wasn't just dumping the vote on scott but it was the vote that did not get Eversince hanged. Thing is that he pushes Kelsier, backs off, does nothing, sheeps the biggest wagon. I understand that the unvote of Kelsier makes sense, town should re-evaluate. But the lack of participation and the "I do nothing" sheep of Rels is bullshit. I mean the guy isn't active for most of the day then comes in only to say this and back out again? I don't get it. Tbh that's bad scum play as well as bad town play. I expect more D2. Eversince looks bad but I think it's a "bad town" category of bad and not a scum thing. That brings me to Farah who I insta-townread for the case on Eversince, I think it's decent, well-written and logical. Such a case isn't made by a newbie D1 on a scum partner. So it's either town!Eversince and town!Farah or town!Eversince and scum!Farah or scum!Eversince and town!Farah. We should keep that in mind, if one of them flips scum, the other one is pretty much confirmed town. The conversation on p37 between Kelsier and Eversince is also quite interesting. Makes Eversince looks bad, again. The only thing ES has going for him is the effort he puts in, I don't think scum needs to do this after the flip happened. Also I want to put more pressure on Moosy but he didn't spam up the thread anymore and caught decent things such as this. Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
mmm...Eversince's change in story is vaguely concerning to be honest. Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 20 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
What change in story? Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me? I'll refrain from my scum read for now. I actually think Moosy is doing a better job by now. Here are my reads mirrored in the final vote count: Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:Day 1 Vote Count scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast/ Eversince/ LonemeowEversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337 , Vonthin, GlowingBear LoneMeow (1): sicklucker It is very well possible that scum hides between MD/FF/LM, no matter if both wagons are town or the Eversince wagon was targeted at scum. Since I said above that I refrain from my MD scumread, in this scenario most likely scum should be hidden between FF/LM/ES, pushing the mislynch that town people started. The one guy voting outside of both wagons (to simply stay unreadable?) would be sicklucker. Wouldn't be bad scum play I think since basically voting outside the wagons is NAI (at least as long as we do not know both flips) - I don't have a strong scumread on him but I don't have a townread as well so yeah. I don't want to let go of the theory of sicklucker being scum and voting outside but the fact that he asked for shennanies says to me that he should be leaned town. I have a gut feeling on Shining that I need to feed with arguments. Maybe I'll change my thoughts towards him but as of now, I got a scumlean on him. Same goes for FecalFeast, my reads on those two aren't fed with strong facts but are more a gut (and low activity/filler posts) thingy. Concluding, I think it's very likely that we have two scum members on the scott wagon. The wagon went off decently and was not fought too hard, although the lynch was kind of close.
Can you explain why the one who start the wagon on a town are town enough to paint green?
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On October 20 2015 23:25 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 23:19 boxerfred wrote:
GB: "Rels's post is forced"
Rels: "GB's post is forced"
Scum having a field day. However Rels keeps himself to reasoning while GB spits out theories. Let's try to ask questions:
- how does sicklucker/Eversince make sense? Why is that? I can't replicate that.
- what exactly makes sicklucker scum if Rels is scum?
Your ideas revolve around sicklucker who is (to me) the most unreadable guy in this game. Sicklucker scumreading lone meow and wasting his vote on him without trying to convince people to vote with him was scummy. He coming back to the thread and voting scott instead of Eversince may imply he was saving his scum partner by hammering town scott. Or he simply saw me criticising him for wasting his vote and voted one of the main wagons to look good. My point on sicklucker is: if he really thought lone meow was mafia to the point of keeping his vote on him until the very end, he should've be trying to convince people to vote lone meow. If his scum read on lone meow wasn't that strong, he should've used his time to evaluate the main wagons instead of not caring for the lynch the major part of the day.
i did tho... i tried very hard no one was in thread I specifiaclly asked people like ksc if they would be willing to change there vote to a third wagon and they said no
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also gb you were not in the last student game but I did the same thing but I got town to switch to the scum and we won the game after they conceded on day 2. Like im literary playing the same way as my last town game. I did try harder that game tho im just bored and trying not to get nked lolz
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That has to be the laziest way to say you tried to persuade people. You had most of the day to make a case to try to seriously push on Lone Moew and then try to consolidate around the time of the lynch.
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anyway im shooting someone
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On October 21 2015 04:58 sicklucker wrote:
anyway im shooting someone
me
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On October 21 2015 04:57 Eversince wrote:
That has to be the laziest way to say you tried to persuade people. You had most of the day to make a case to try to seriously push on Lone Moew and then try to consolidate around the time of the lynch.
... this is how i won the last newbie game for you. only no one was willing to work with me this time
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