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On May 15 2015 05:53 Hoon wrote: I remember when TL started their DotA 2 team, they said that they were interested in highly skill-based esports, so SC:BW, SC2 and DotA 2 were the ones that made the cut.
What happened for them to start doing Hearthstone and now Halo?
You answered your own question. Halo is a high skill-based esport. Can't speak for Hearthstone, I haven't played it much.
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ElamiteWarrior is a frikin legend! The winning-est H3 player (omg Str8 and Instinct, the memories are flowing) , can't believe Liquid picked him up! Ninja is also an amazing addition to the line up. I stopped following after H3, but i've heard of Aries. Shooter and Spartan I have no idea, excited to see what they can bring to the table!
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On May 15 2015 04:38 swag_bro wrote: Can't believe TL let's g2a sponsor them knowing they are fucking over people. I have heard this from multiple people but nobody has given me a straight answer with proof.
What has G2A done that is so bad?
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liquid starting to look more and more like all those teams that participate in every game possible while excelling at none.
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On May 15 2015 06:58 esdf wrote: liquid starting to look more and more like all those teams that participate in every game possible while excelling at none.
Shots fired!
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On May 15 2015 06:58 esdf wrote: liquid starting to look more and more like all those teams that participate in every game possible while excelling at none. Well, having the best foreign SC2 team by far counts for something, right? I'd say TL is about equal to Prime so they could theoretically compete in proleague.
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On May 15 2015 06:43 IMLyte wrote: ElamiteWarrior is a frikin legend! The winning-est H3 player (omg Str8 and Instinct, the memories are flowing) , can't believe Liquid picked him up! Ninja is also an amazing addition to the line up. I stopped following after H3, but i've heard of Aries. Shooter and Spartan I have no idea, excited to see what they can bring to the table!
Shooter and Spartan are up and coming players. They played for Elevate last season and were making top 8 but not quite challenging the top teams that were the ones you'd expect to win the tournament. They've got potential and a lot to prove. Spartan has an aggressive playstyle and probably needs to learn how to play the objective more; Shooter fill in where his team needs him, I expect him to be the main objective player for the team.
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On May 15 2015 06:43 IMLyte wrote: ElamiteWarrior is a frikin legend! The winning-est H3 player (omg Str8 and Instinct, the memories are flowing) , can't believe Liquid picked him up! Ninja is also an amazing addition to the line up. I stopped following after H3, but i've heard of Aries. Shooter and Spartan I have no idea, excited to see what they can bring to the table! I think someones forgetting final boss and the ogre twins.
God I'm so happy this is going to be real. I was an MLG halo mark from back in the day when they got onto g4 and then were able to have their own stream. God I hope MLG can bring it back. They did support it in the darkest days though so no hard feelings.
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Carnivorous Sheep wrote: "Its place in esports history is rivaled only by Starcraft"
Isn't that really insulting to all the other games Liquid supports...
To be fair, the only game that has been as influential to eSports in the West is LoL and maybe CS.
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liquid is the new walmart of teams :D. To be honest i love it ^.^
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On May 15 2015 06:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 05:53 Hoon wrote: I remember when TL started their DotA 2 team, they said that they were interested in highly skill-based esports, so SC:BW, SC2 and DotA 2 were the ones that made the cut.
What happened for them to start doing Hearthstone and now Halo? You answered your own question. Halo is a high skill-based esport. Can't speak for Hearthstone, I haven't played it much.
Halo a high skill-based esport? IMO Halo fits in the same category as CoD and I wouldn't call any of them high skill-based esport. I do understand that playing at the top level on both game requires dedication and skills and it's nice that they both have a competitive scene but I won't ever consider a console FPS game as a high skill-based game, especially when you compare them to PC FPS games such as cs,quake or even UT. But if you look at FPS titles for consoles only, I would agree that Halo is there on the top as one of the high skill-based console games.
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On May 15 2015 05:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 05:53 Hoon wrote: I remember when TL started their DotA 2 team, they said that they were interested in highly skill-based esports, so SC:BW, SC2 and DotA 2 were the ones that made the cut.
What happened for them to start doing Hearthstone and now Halo? $$$$$$ seriously though, I imagine they found a Halo team they could pick up for relitively cheap and decided to capitalize. i would too if I ran a team It's sad to see them going for the "sellout" route. Specially them, who were so proud on supporting highly skill-based games only.
Well, I guess money is more important than anything.
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the best thing the Halo team will appreciate about the Liquid community is how positive and optimistic every one is. No one tries to look like a know-it-all, and posters do not nick-pick over tiny details or semantics.
enough sarcasm
Welcome Liquid Halo! i really love Halo. i have a serious question: is getting a TL+ membership the best way to support this team? or is there a better way?
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I don't even know half the players on liquid anymore
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Hey, welcome. Competitive Halo's a fun watch.
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Hmm, maybe I'll watch the next Halo tournament
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I am just afraid that TeamLiquid is a little bit over inflating itself; so that one day it would not explode. Do TL really expects Halo to be profitable? I am worry a bit.
Would like to see Nazgul's comment about TL expectations from Halo.
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On May 15 2015 07:26 DPK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 06:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:On May 15 2015 05:53 Hoon wrote: I remember when TL started their DotA 2 team, they said that they were interested in highly skill-based esports, so SC:BW, SC2 and DotA 2 were the ones that made the cut.
What happened for them to start doing Hearthstone and now Halo? You answered your own question. Halo is a high skill-based esport. Can't speak for Hearthstone, I haven't played it much. Halo a high skill-based esport? IMO Halo fits in the same category as CoD and I wouldn't call any of them high skill-based esport. I do understand that playing at the top level on both game requires dedication and skills and it's nice that they both have a competitive scene but I won't ever consider a console FPS game as a high skill-based game, especially when you compare them to PC FPS games such as cs,quake or even UT. But if you look at FPS titles for consoles only, I would agree that Halo is there on the top as one of the high skill-based console games. Other than the controller I fail to recognize any other criteria of quality that differenciate console FPS from the PC ones.
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On May 15 2015 07:26 DPK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 06:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:On May 15 2015 05:53 Hoon wrote: I remember when TL started their DotA 2 team, they said that they were interested in highly skill-based esports, so SC:BW, SC2 and DotA 2 were the ones that made the cut.
What happened for them to start doing Hearthstone and now Halo? You answered your own question. Halo is a high skill-based esport. Can't speak for Hearthstone, I haven't played it much. Halo a high skill-based esport? IMO Halo fits in the same category as CoD and I wouldn't call any of them high skill-based esport. I do understand that playing at the top level on both game requires dedication and skills and it's nice that they both have a competitive scene but I won't ever consider a console FPS game as a high skill-based game, especially when you compare them to PC FPS games such as cs,quake or even UT. But if you look at FPS titles for consoles only, I would agree that Halo is there on the top as one of the high skill-based console games.
I'd be curious to know what disqualifies a console FPS game from being considered a high skill-based game in comparison to a PC FPS game. Both require precision, teamwork, intelligence, and consistency, and both have a high skill ceiling with which the best can separate themselves from the rest.
The fact that you use a mouse+keyboard vs controller doesn't matter since the competition is using the same tool, and mastery can be achieved on both.
I would say that specific games each have their strengths/weaknesses, but the platform they are played on is not a contributing factor to that argument (CoD multiplayer is just as unappealing to me on PC as it is on console).
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On May 15 2015 08:11 McRatyn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 07:26 DPK wrote:On May 15 2015 06:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:On May 15 2015 05:53 Hoon wrote: I remember when TL started their DotA 2 team, they said that they were interested in highly skill-based esports, so SC:BW, SC2 and DotA 2 were the ones that made the cut.
What happened for them to start doing Hearthstone and now Halo? You answered your own question. Halo is a high skill-based esport. Can't speak for Hearthstone, I haven't played it much. Halo a high skill-based esport? IMO Halo fits in the same category as CoD and I wouldn't call any of them high skill-based esport. I do understand that playing at the top level on both game requires dedication and skills and it's nice that they both have a competitive scene but I won't ever consider a console FPS game as a high skill-based game, especially when you compare them to PC FPS games such as cs,quake or even UT. But if you look at FPS titles for consoles only, I would agree that Halo is there on the top as one of the high skill-based console games. Other than the controller I fail to recognize any other criteria of quality that differenciate console FPS from the PC ones. console fps' have auto-aim when within a certain range of the target. Or did that trend stop happening?
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