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Matchfixing is a very serious offence and accusations of matchfixing should not be made lightly. Please avoid making accusations against specific individuals unless you have substantial proof, or until further information is released. (0620 KST) |
Ohhh, another messed up curve! More drama!
On January 24 2015 09:13 Captain Peabody wrote: Look, I was actively following things when the BW match-fixing scandal came out. Betting is illegal in Korea, so there were no public tipoffs from the "dark" betting sites about what was going on. The information came out due to Kespa investigating and banning the players in question. The scandal that resulted was a huge deal in Korea, and permanently damaged the Korean BW scene.
The point being, Kespa have a history of successfully investigating things like this, AND they're highly, highly incentivized to deal with match-fixing. If there is significant match-fixing going on, they're overwhelmingly likely to find it.
So to play the devils advocate, just because kespa spotted one case of match-fixing, doesn't mean that they missed 10 before that, that no one heard about. I feel you are doing the logical step:
Kespa found out about matchfixing once --> kespa will find out if it's there.
Which is not necessarily true.
But anyway, curious to see what will happen! Maybe it is someone that discover that they can do bets early on, and if it turns out that the bet was a bad bet just before the game, they can "cancel" their earlier bet by pumping in silly bets and trigger the match-fixing algorithm. :D Or blizzard paving the way for sc3 by throwing scandals over the sc2 scene??? Or some other company that want to enter the RTS scene?? Rich kiddo?? Incompetent match-fixers?? Endless possibilities!!!
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These two sentences doens't add up.
The scandal that resulted was a huge deal in Korea, and permanently damaged the Korean BW scene.
highly incentivized to deal with match-fixing
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Like it never happened.
2/5/2015
GG.
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On February 06 2015 03:39 dsousa wrote: Like it never happened.
2/5/2015
GG.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Honestly I've been watching this thread (and a lot of proleague over the past two years) and Dark has been a name that the casters talk about a lot, even reaching into last season. Being someone who gets mentioned as being 'up and coming' and 'really good' in the cast most likely would influence things a lot. Plus Dark has had a really really really good season so far, so even though he might not have as much publicity as the other players, to the people who watch and listen he's definitively become a huge favorite.
Also Koreans like that don't have a lot of games to show how much they've been improving* - so his skill level changes faster and more drastically than the betting site might expect.
* that is, you have no idea how well they've been doing during ladder or in-house training.
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Want more info and speculation lol
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Germany913 Posts
These tweets by Olimoley might be relevant:
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How exactly does not having Korean stream solve the problem?
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Those tweets deserve an extra thread imo, an interview with Olivia would be most interesting too.
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Germany913 Posts
On February 09 2015 02:43 Musicus wrote: Those tweets deserve an extra thread imo, an interview with Olivia would be most interesting too. Ok, I'm creating one atm.
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On February 09 2015 02:46 Clubfan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 02:43 Musicus wrote: Those tweets deserve an extra thread imo, an interview with Olivia would be most interesting too. Ok, I'm creating one atm. You're just making it relevant by tying loose ends together.
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Again, where is the proof??? Just posting tweets like this only keeps the crowd in the dark. Making accusations of that the sc2 scene is a matchfixing playground without substantial proof really is an ignorant thing to do.
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On February 09 2015 02:50 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 02:46 Clubfan wrote:On February 09 2015 02:43 Musicus wrote: Those tweets deserve an extra thread imo, an interview with Olivia would be most interesting too. Ok, I'm creating one atm. You're just making it relevant by tying loose ends together.
It can not be made relevant, it IS relevant.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Oli should just straight up say who is cheating and fixing
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:07 GumBa wrote: Oli should just straight up say who is cheating and fixing
I agree. The speculation is harmful more so than actual names would be, in my opinion.
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Germany913 Posts
There are more tweets, but they also do NOT provide any evidence:
Update: Apparently, Blizzard has been investigating this:
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