The movie that needs to be here is Battleship. Don't know what year and too lazy to google it right now but its recent.
Oh and Kung Pow is the shit btw! ^^
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c3rberUs
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The movie that needs to be here is Battleship. Don't know what year and too lazy to google it right now but its recent. Oh and Kung Pow is the shit btw! ^^ | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On December 07 2014 15:33 c3rberUs wrote: I thought Spider man 3 was mediocre but then again I'm not really a fan. Golden Child is golden, a childhood movie of mine. The movie that needs to be here is Battleship. Don't know what year and too lazy to google it right now but its recent. Oh and Kung Pow is the shit btw! ^^ I actually only saw the beginning of Battleship, and was like "I'm not going to watch this." and I sincerely believe I made the right choice. | ||
Noam
Israel2209 Posts
SO bad. | ||
obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I think you're missing some points on Her though Nina. 1. Artists have little concept of the workings technology, so the story doesn't make complete sense. I don't think they were thinking this, but... Even if you could unplug the OS's ethernet it's likely still wired through the cloud or is smart enough to get out, and that's not what he wanted. And that's not what the movie is about. You don't want to force someone to love you. That happened in Ruby Sparks and look how crazy that scene was. 2. The OS leaving is supposed to be a parallel to people growing apart I think. It makes the movie into a romance that people can sympathize with. 3. The story doesn't necessarily take place in a future where Craigslist doesn't exist, but rather in an alternate reality where everything else is the same technologywise but they've built the perfect OS. Again, not realistic, but we had so few movies explore the potential of superintelligent AI that I'll take what I can get. 4. Computers do too have souls. After all South Korea has one and it's just dirt. | ||
Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On December 07 2014 17:57 obesechicken13 wrote: I love your unrestrained anger, but I'd hate to face it irl. Never change! I think you're missing some points on Her though Nina. 1. Artists have little concept of the workings technology, so the story doesn't make complete sense. I don't think they were thinking this, but... Even if you could unplug the OS's ethernet it's likely still wired through the cloud or is smart enough to get out, and that's not what he wanted. And that's not what the movie is about. You don't want to force someone to love you. That happened in Ruby Sparks and look how crazy that scene was. 2. The OS leaving is supposed to be a parallel to people growing apart I think. It makes the movie into a romance that people can sympathize with. 3. The story doesn't necessarily take place in a future where Craigslist doesn't exist, but rather in an alternate reality where everything else is the same technologywise but they've built the perfect OS. Again, not realistic, but we had so few movies explore the potential of superintelligent AI that I'll take what I can get. 4. Computers do too have souls. After all South Korea has one and it's just dirt. Well, just to hit the serious button for a minute, I think that a human-level intelligence OS would almost certainly need to be connected to the internet to pull information from. Otherwise, the computer would need a huge room full of hard drives and processors. Even Watson needed a room full of CPUs to operate. But putting that aside, Joaquin Phoenix's character fell in love with an OS. This raises some questions about his psychological state at the time. Would he be willing to let the personality he loves so much go so easily? Even people who love other people hate the thought of being alone, so they will go out of their way to manipulate the other person so that this person will love them. Now, you could argue that this is not 'true love', but I'm not talking strictly about true love, I'm talking about human behavior and our fundamental need to be loved and accepted by others. It is difficult for people to let go of people they love, but this also goes for inanimate objects. People will keep items that they associate with good memories and cling to those items on an emotional level, and cannot bring themselves to throw the item away, even if it becomes a nuisance. I don't think it's much of a stretch, therefore, to reprogram an OS to love you rather than not. As for the OS and the owner growing apart, this, to me, seems like a writer's way of ending the story. But the story really isn't over. The main character still has a need for love in his life, so his story will go on. So, suppose the movie ended a bit differently. Suppose he was actually really happy with his OS and they decided to spend the rest of their lives together? I guess that's the ending I would've written, because it is far more thought-provoking than the story we get in the movie, because the story allows him to be with a computer, but then has to come back to 'reality' when the OS's leave. Staying with the OS in a marriage type of situation would probably piss some people off, because it's not 'human', but then the debate would be how conscious the OS actually was. Was it self-aware? Yes, or at least, could mimic self-awareness extremely well. Could it emulate human behavior near-perfectly? Yes, as well. So if the point of the movie is to beg the question of how involved will we get with our technology, the point would still stand if there were an alternative to the ending we have. The point I'm making is not "I'm mad because I didn't get the ending I wanted", but more along the lines of: if the creators of the movie were trying to explore the concept, then they should delve fully into that particular realm instead of cheating with a cheap exit from the main concept. If the concept of the movie is "What if we become so involved in our technology that we fall in love with it, but then we are suddenly stripped of it?" then the answer to the is simple: It would suck. We already know this. People drop their smart phones into toilets and then go into withdrawals. So yeah, he should've married his OS. | ||
Amanebak
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On December 07 2014 21:25 Amanebak wrote: Have you seen The Great Gatsby (2013)? I had to stop watching (last scene: Gatsby went into some tasteless bar after crazy driving scene). But there are so many people praizing it, so idk. Maybe I missed something. I'm pretty sure a lot of people bashed it lol. | ||
Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Glad you included The Hours, one of the few movies I've walked out on. Disagree strongly with Her. Found it an immersive exploration of technology and relationships but maybe it's better from a male perspective? Phoenix was brilliant. edit: oh and After Earth, didn't get close to finishing that smegma-dusted turd edit 2: great writeup, thoroughly enjoyed! | ||
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11285 Posts
On December 07 2014 16:49 ninazerg wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2014 15:33 c3rberUs wrote: I thought Spider man 3 was mediocre but then again I'm not really a fan. Golden Child is golden, a childhood movie of mine. The movie that needs to be here is Battleship. Don't know what year and too lazy to google it right now but its recent. Oh and Kung Pow is the shit btw! ^^ I actually only saw the beginning of Battleship, and was like "I'm not going to watch this." and I sincerely believe I made the right choice. Well, you made the right choice. | ||
dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Literally. I'm clapping right now. | ||
Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
Thankfully I've only suffered through a few of those movies, but I did watch Transformers and somehow made it till the end. Must've found a way to shut my brain off... or a chastity belt. | ||
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
Rina Takeda is the only actress who has the distinct dishonor of starring in two movies on this list. Actually you have another actor that starred in two movies on this list. Julianne Moore was in "The Hours" and "The Forgotten". Otherwise, still a good re-read and made me laugh again. Thanks for sharing! | ||
dravernor
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Foolishness
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