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On December 07 2007 02:18 Mayson wrote:
I agree. The world should be a world without guns, as a disarmed population is much easier to control.
It worked for Hitler. Good things those Jews couldn't defend themselves!
Oh, and I do know how high the murder rate per capita is. It's higher where guns are banned. this is like the most hilarious argument hahaha i literally laughed out loud when reading it
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Things R' just bigger in Texas
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On December 07 2007 02:47 MYM.Testie wrote:
Things R' just bigger in Texas
Everything except for afros.
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oh man, emo's and global warming are a conspiracy of The Empire (USA) to kill us all.
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is awesome32268 Posts
On December 07 2007 02:47 yubee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2007 02:18 Mayson wrote:
I agree. The world should be a world without guns, as a disarmed population is much easier to control.
It worked for Hitler. Good things those Jews couldn't defend themselves!
Oh, and I do know how high the murder rate per capita is. It's higher where guns are banned. this is like the most hilarious argument hahaha i literally laughed out loud when reading it
Hahaha this thread is pure crap filled with 9 year old arguments about pro guns shit and hilarious analogies.
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United States22883 Posts
Wrong. He was a criminal before the shooting started.
He was in possession of an assault rifle, which isn't legal at 19 years of age. He was in possession of hand grenades, which isn't legal for any private citizen.
This makes him a criminal before the shooting occurred. Right, I said it was irrelevant to this case, but what about the VA Tech shootings? Do you honestly believe a 21/30/50 year old should be able to own an assault rifle?
As for the Supreme Court rulings, when? You really are a nitwit. Supreme Court rulings on the second Amendment primarily cover whether it's designed to be a restriction of the federal government only, or of both the federal government and state government. They ruled that it's the prior, but specifically said:
The right voluntarily to associate together as a military company or organization or to drill or parade with arms, without, and independent of, an act of Congress or law of the State authorizing the same, is not an attribute of national citizenship. Military organization and military drill and parade under arms are subjects especially under the control of the government of every country. They cannot be claimed as a right independent of law. Under our political system they are subject to the regulation and control of the State and Federal governments, acting in due regard to their respective prerogatives and powers.
Now, either you're an idiot or you've got a time machine, because some time in 2008 the Supreme Court will rule whether the Second Amendment applies to individual ownership or not. I'm guessing that you're just an idiot.
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On December 07 2007 02:47 yubee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2007 02:18 Mayson wrote:
I agree. The world should be a world without guns, as a disarmed population is much easier to control.
It worked for Hitler. Good things those Jews couldn't defend themselves!
Oh, and I do know how high the murder rate per capita is. It's higher where guns are banned. this is like the most hilarious argument hahaha i literally laughed out loud when reading it
lmfao
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On December 07 2007 01:52 mahnini wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2007 01:50 Meta wrote:
I havent read most of this thread, but I assume there's some massive anti-gun law argument going on. All I have to say is that the founding fathers of America assumed the general will of the public would be good enough to stop these unfortunate disasters such as this one by giving everyone guns. Also, they were using guns that took 5 hours to reload.
They took into account that there would be unforseen advancements in the future when they opened the constitution to amendment, and they still opted to legalize guns.
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Here allow me to introduce some spaces into your unreadable wall of text.
On December 07 2007 02:46 Lazerflip! wrote:
This topic = owned by Nony tbh. Anyhow, for anyone arguing that gun control laws keep guns out of the hands of criminals, I challenge you to survey about 100 American teens and ask them if they smoke marijuana. If they do, ask them how hard it is to get it. Not that hard, I bet you will find. Yet it is illegal.
I made a post on the last page about how this is a dumb comparison. Feel free to scroll up and read it.
Actually, in reading the rest of your wall of text, I see that every single thing you said was addressed in my previous post, giving me the notion that you don't care to read what anyone says and actually discuss things, but just lay a big turd of an opinion on a message board and carry on your way.
So no point responding I guess.
edit: And Gayson (lulz at pun) dropping the H-bomb instantly discredits his posts - as per internet law
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On December 07 2007 02:46 Lazerflip! wrote:
This topic = owned by Nony tbh. Anyhow, for anyone arguing that gun control laws keep guns out of the hands of criminals, I challenge you to survey about 100 American teens and ask them if they smoke marijuana. If they do, ask them how hard it is to get it. Not that hard, I bet you will find. Yet it is illegal.
Cool d00d. However anyone can grow pot, but it takes a special skill set to manufacture a working handgun.
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
On December 07 2007 03:18 [r]h_probe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2007 02:46 Lazerflip! wrote:
This topic = owned by Nony tbh. Anyhow, for anyone arguing that gun control laws keep guns out of the hands of criminals, I challenge you to survey about 100 American teens and ask them if they smoke marijuana. If they do, ask them how hard it is to get it. Not that hard, I bet you will find. Yet it is illegal. Cool d00d. However anyone can grow pot, but it takes a special skill set to manufacture a working handgun.
Which just proves you don't know shit about growing good pot.
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United States22883 Posts
On December 07 2007 03:07 Meta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2007 01:52 mahnini wrote:On December 07 2007 01:50 Meta wrote:
I havent read most of this thread, but I assume there's some massive anti-gun law argument going on. All I have to say is that the founding fathers of America assumed the general will of the public would be good enough to stop these unfortunate disasters such as this one by giving everyone guns. Also, they were using guns that took 5 hours to reload. They took into account that there would be unforseen advancements in the future when they opened the constitution to amendment, and they still opted to legalize guns. Read my last 2 posts, that's not true. Guns were illegal hence the reason for legalizing them in the first place for "militias." It wasn't about protecting states from the Federal government, it was about allowing States to protect themselves from the British/French/Indians/Uprising.
From the Declaration of Independence:
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. In the case of England controlling America, that means you can raise arms against it. In the case of the US government controlling American citizens, that means you institute a new government by voting.
It's simply untrue to say Jefferson meant physical uprising.
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On December 07 2007 03:21 BluzMan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2007 03:18 [r]h_probe wrote:On December 07 2007 02:46 Lazerflip! wrote:
This topic = owned by Nony tbh. Anyhow, for anyone arguing that gun control laws keep guns out of the hands of criminals, I challenge you to survey about 100 American teens and ask them if they smoke marijuana. If they do, ask them how hard it is to get it. Not that hard, I bet you will find. Yet it is illegal. Cool d00d. However anyone can grow pot, but it takes a special skill set to manufacture a working handgun. Which just proves you don't know shit about growing good pot.
no i think hes right, anyone can do it, but if u want good bud it takes lots of time and good care but thats about it. and the right seed
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I think the biggest problem with this kid and most anti-social people is that their family pretty much screwed them up from the beginning.
Family is the root of society. I don't see anyone criticizing the role of the parents.
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
If you can make good pot, you will be able to make something that shoots. It's not that hard, actually, you wil probably end up with something that is one-shot and not that accurate, but it's possible.
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
On December 07 2007 03:37 Rev0lution wrote:
I think the biggest problem with this kid and most anti-social people is that their family pretty much screwed them up from the beginning.
Family is the root of society. I don't see anyone criticizing the role of the parents.
Read better.
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On December 07 2007 03:21 BluzMan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2007 03:18 [r]h_probe wrote:On December 07 2007 02:46 Lazerflip! wrote:
This topic = owned by Nony tbh. Anyhow, for anyone arguing that gun control laws keep guns out of the hands of criminals, I challenge you to survey about 100 American teens and ask them if they smoke marijuana. If they do, ask them how hard it is to get it. Not that hard, I bet you will find. Yet it is illegal. Cool d00d. However anyone can grow pot, but it takes a special skill set to manufacture a working handgun. Which just proves you don't know shit about growing good pot.
I think the point is that growing drugs and smuggling drugs is a lot easier than manufactoring automatic weapons and then smuggle those.
Its a lot easier to find weapons than drugs, and its a lot less money to earn from it while a much bigger risk for the smugglers so you wont have many people with guns unless they are working hard to get them into the country.
If you ask 100k persons in sweden if they can get their hands on an illegal pistol, i bet that very very few know any contacts that could get them that, and automatic weapons are almost impossible.
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On December 07 2007 03:38 BluzMan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2007 03:37 Rev0lution wrote:
I think the biggest problem with this kid and most anti-social people is that their family pretty much screwed them up from the beginning.
Family is the root of society. I don't see anyone criticizing the role of the parents. Read better.
Sorry I didn't read the entire 7 pages, I did see parental discipline up there with reasons for shootings.
It's not even that. They need love <3
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What happens to people who make their own pot:
What happens to people who make their own firearms:
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