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Cephiro
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I'm going to vote for Oats because even though I'd be content with Foolishness being lynched as well, I'm more confident on Oats being scum. Also there seems to be more players contesting a Foolishness lynch rather than an Oats one, so I hope my vote is one towards the majority. ##Vote: Oatsmaster | ||
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Blazinghand
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WaveofShadow
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VisceraEyes
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Tehpoofter
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On May 01 2014 04:12 Foolishness wrote: I'll consolidate my vote onto any of the four austin proposed (with the exception being myself of course). Also Cephiro promised us something good by half-way into day 2 and has not delivered yet. He wants the info from the player hes not pushing for a lynch instantly he thinks its scummy but hes reasonable and wants to point it out/pressure him to give info. Note in this case it worked as Ceph gave his reads and Foolish responds to them: On May 01 2014 05:16 Foolishness wrote: I'm having trouble understanding this world where 3 active town members on day 1 (plus one confirmed town who died at night) who each posted their own cases about why strongandbig should be lynched are mafia and not say the ~8 people who have yet to post a case, contribute to the town or post their own thoughts. I'm also having trouble believing that it's in the best interest to the town to kill the people who are posting cases and contributing and just letting those ~8 people get away with doing nothing. So I would be honored if someone can explain to me why the people who sat around on day 1 are all likely town. And ya know, you can do this by responding to the cases already made or by posting your own. Here he responds to the case and he doesn't like what Ceph had to say (me personally I read him as town because of his post although I dislike his Foolish/Odin read I still think it was town) Foolish here reasons with Ceph's idea not with him. A mafia Foolish could just call ceph scummy and vote for him here its an easy thing to push and he doesn't he argues against the idea to try to get him to follow his thought process. The part I bolded just radiates town: He encourages people to post cases and not just sheep which is an excellent way to catch scum because scum can't just blindly sheep. Look at Foolishness' big post for the day:+ Show Spoiler + On April 30 2014 07:45 Foolishness wrote: Except it wasn't a bad case because 12 people voted on it? Oops. If someone wants to post an actual case against me I'll gladly respond to it (or quote it for me in case I missed it). I haven't seen any real arguments about how I'm mafia. Most of them are silly because they boil down to: 1) sandroba said so. Of which I have to say: a) He also said that Palmar is mafia (and Palmar said he was mafia let's not forget that) and Palmar is a much more questionable character than I am for obvious reasons. b) Like you have never nightkilled someone to incriminate another town? c) I already refuted what sandroba had to say about me. If you need clarification bring up an argument and I'll respond. 2) I pushed a "bad" case on day 1. Of which I have to say: a) It wasn't bad because a bunch of people (including townies) voted on it. b) A bunch of people independently came up with reasons why it was a good lynch. c) It's not my mafia meta like some people claim. According to the past 4 forum mafia games I've played I have either 1) done jack shit while I was alive or 2) make a case but never follow through. On that subject, I return to what I said in an earlier post. Some of you seem to have this idea that yesterday's lynch was a mafia controlled lynch. I find this hard to believe and it's probably not true. The main reason being is because of point 2b) above: a bunch of people all had given reasons why strongandbig was a good lynch, all of which came independently. These people include Koshi, geript (confirmed town), Blazinghand and myself. If this was a mafia controlled lynch than a lot of people who started the wagon on him would have to be mafia (which is not true. Of the 4 people I listed there I'm sure we're all town. At most one is mafia if you want to hedge I guess). Not to mention there was opposition to the lynch in the form of good opposition from people like Odin and prphlz (by this I mean actual reasons behind why he's town and not just "this lynch sucks like some people did"). Furthermore, how many people are there that sat and watched that lynch happen? There's a lot, and I'll come back to those people below and I've already said who in my previous posts. For every person in this game that is making constructive posts and pushing reads it feels like there's 2 people who are sheeping (though 2 is an exaggeration in reality). What do you think is the most likely scenario for what has happened this game: 1) mafia pushed the strongandbig lynch really hard. Of the voters for strongandbig there's ~4 mafia voting, and half the town is sitting derping while this happened. 2) Town pushed a lynch onto a town. Mafia have all their votes spread out and just sat and watched it happened (which means sheeping reads, not pushing whoever they are voting for and letting town self-destruct). It should be clear what happened yesterday unless you're in conspiracy theory land. I'm not really sure what this says about Oatsmaster (if anything) given that he was second in line to be lynched. What I do know is that mafia were very content with how things played out yesterday and did not fear one of their own getting killed. This means that the vast majority (if not all) of the mafia team were sitting back and sheeping along, because why would you put yourself out there to get townie's lynched when you can just let the town do it for you? The people noteworthy here are: RebirthOfLegend Who is guilty of: 1) Sheeping the vote read here: + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 04:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: As my tunnel buddy, I'm required to agree with everything foolishness says. ##Vote StrongAndBig And then claiming a whopping 7 hours later that he came to the same conclusion himself... + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 11:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Before reading both foolishness and blazinghands cases on SNB I took a look through his filter just so I could get my own read beforehand. I'd be inclined to see it the same as they did. It felt like SNB was trying a bit too hard to be non committal on everything. It just struck me as effort into making sure he wasn't saying anything anyone could take issue with. Foolishness went a bit more indepth and compared it to other games, however I'd say it seemed clear enough that the only real incentive to put effort into being as neutral as humanly possible is to hide the fact you are scum and be able to point fingers at those who were more influential on the D1 lynch. Sorry about my low activity, I will try to be more consistent with my posting going forward. Also, ##donate 2 posts to SNB. You seem to be low on posts, I suppose its only fair to give you a bit more to work with in the few hours before your demise. I will be around until deadline if I don't accidentally fall asleep while watching dreamhack. And then 2) in his most recent post here: He says that what Palmar did is quite scummy. Yet he said nothing about Palmar on day 1 (or Caller for that matter). He also promised that he would give the town something by the end of night 1 and he did not deliver. So let's get this straight. He says that Palmar is scummy for trying to mess with the town on day 1 (true statement, yes). Yet he did not feel the need to say anything about it on day 1 and just go along with the strongandbig read? What townie thinks that someone is likely scum and then not vote him, not say anything about it, and not push him? Yes, he is noteworthy for being an inactive player. When he's town he's much more aggressive with his reads and actually pushes his targets. Check out his post here from a game where he's town. Note that he actually makes a case using his own thoughts and follows through (he talks about cheesecake in later posts as well). When he's mafia he never makes a constructive case like this and only provides backhanded reasoning. In purgatory and storm mafia (where he's mafia) he comments on a lot of things to make it seem like he cares but he doesn't have the vested interest in hunting mafia or figuring out the game. ##Vote: RebirthOfLegend WaveOfShadow Who is guilty of: 1) Not doing anything day 1 in a broad sense. He's always a big presence in the thread but most people seem to have forgotten he was even in this game (I know I did on multiple occasions). 2) Flailing his vote around on day 1. First voting for sandroba here + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote: I was actually going to suggest more people shoot so we can use the coroner and veal a whole bunch of stuff at once ( I'm assuming its a one shot that only reveals one set of no flips ) Also ##Vote:sandroba And then unvoting an hour and a half later (to his credit that was when sandroba came back to the thread and voted a bunch). Then voting for Oats even though he doesn't like the case here: + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 10:48 WaveofShadow wrote: Dunno man, looks like Oats bein' Oats to me. I'd lynch him over SnB though for sure. 3) Says Palmar is suspicious and should probably be lynched but never doing anything about it: 4) Follows some weird train of thought that ends up with him voting Blazinghand? I can't even follow his logic through this one. He keeps saying he wants to sheep someone but doesn't seem to quite know where to go with that. He's either bored townie or mafia. I don't think I've ever seen him bored. Palmar Who is guilty of a lot of things. To be clear I will maintain my position that Palmar is town but I am still listing him here because he fits the bill and I would still vote for him should the rest of us decide he needs to die. My vote is staying on the better case for now. Oastmaster Who is guilty of: 1) Voting for strongandbig without any reasoning here: + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 01:11 Oatsmaster wrote: man wtf yamato why are you derailing a lynch and not proposing anything else you useless bastard. For the record, I am totes fine with SnB lynch and I now think that geript is not scum because he dropped his policy lynch. Which he had arguably more reason to continue with ##unvote ##vote SnB Im going to sleep, kill scum guyys pls. 2) General absence on day 1. He was next in line to get lynched and hardly seemed to care. --- I have to stop here for now but I know I'm on the cusp of having this figured out. He comes out with his reads in a concise case like fashion hes pushing on people that either haven't done shit or have been doing scummy shit. The only weird thing he says is about Palmer and I called him out for it and he later gave in my opinion his only weird post of the day: On April 30 2014 09:53 Foolishness wrote: Koshi was one of the few posting things of substance yesterday so I thought he was town. I agree with you that his flip-flop-ness is questionable. I haven't looked at any of his past games (yet) so I'm not sure how normal this is for him. I do think you bring up some good points though, not sure if I'd shoot him yet. I'm just going to change my Palmar read status to: "I don't know". Thought he was town, but maybe not cause he had that bad post where he gave a bunch of reads day 1. Thought he was town again, but him dying would answer a lot of questions I think. I don't know. Would not bat an eye if he died. This is the only weird part of his reads and the only thing that felt off to me. Not sure how much I like this answer but the rest of his posts feel town to me and I can't see myself voting on him today over Oats who has been lurky is very much tied to Koshi and gives us a TON of info for vote analysis on flip. JAT Point out where I'm going wrong please but I think Foolish is town. 15(I have a double post idk how but counting it) (+4 given) | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
##vote: slam When is deadline? | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Oatsmaster
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That would be great yo. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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justanothertownie
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On May 01 2014 09:30 austinmcc wrote: I think oats is mafia. I want to lynch oats. I am content to HAVE a wagon. If he flips mafia, like I think he will, then I don't super CARE that scum might be on it. Assuming we've got like 4-6 mafia, almost ANY scum lynch probably has some scum on it. This would be ESPECIALLY true if Foolishness is scum, and we came down to a Foolishness/Oats situation. I don't really get this though. There are multiple scum. Most/all of us have multiple scumreads. You're suggesting it's super wrong to lynch one over another. I've got a stronger read on oats. I think oats has other bits that make him a more useful lynch overall, if I were the exact same amount of scummy on them (Foolishness gets to look scummier as game goes on, we get to check people's reads on oats). Can you look at Oats and tell me he's town? The exercise is silly, in and of itself, but I don't think ANYONE can look at either of them and go "Yup, totes town 100%". I'm happy to lynch a person I think is scummy. No, I absolutely cannot tell you oats is town. But unlike Foolishness oats is KNOWN TO SUCK AS TOWN - it is NOT impossible that he is town. You can't look at his play and tell me with a straight face that this is town foolishness. You just can't. I have no idea how it is possible to have a stronger scumread on oats. I am seriously tempted to shoot oats just to end this madness. On May 01 2014 09:37 Blazinghand wrote: Foolishness is basically town for 1) posting reads and cases 2) responding to situations and not ignoring them 3) actually reading the thread and interacting with things that happen in the thread. 4) not being afk Of which all his reads are not doing. Like, I want you guys to contemplate what you're doing here. There's tons of like lurkers who aren't reading, writing cases, making reads, responding to situations, interacting with the thread. They're all being afk or "being afk" and here's foolishness actually playing the game and everyone's like "yeah clearly this guy, the guy actually playing the game, is scum" how serious are you here ._. SERIOUSLY? Are people even reading what this guy is trying to sell us? 1) Foolishness posted one noteworthy case on SnB which wasn't good and turned out to be wrong. There have been no insightful posts from him today at all. He is just throwing around half heartedly reasoned reads. 2) How does that make anyone town? 3) Proven wrong. Just look at how he answered me when I called him out. Even if it was true that does not make him town. 4) Does not make him town. BH is still harddefending Foolishness without ANY good argument. Nobody is town just because he is playing the game. Austin if you get your lynch and oats does not flip scum I will yell and rage at you and you better promise to lead a foolishness lynch day3. I can't believe how hard it is to get that mafia lynched although almost noone really has a townread on him, almost everyone has a townread on me and confirmed town sandroba GUARANTEED that he is in fact scum. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
dunno why austin Is flipping around shooting vs lynching me. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On May 01 2014 09:53 Blazinghand wrote: BTW we really need like 2 more votes on Oats. I've gotta run for a bit but I'll be back before deadline. Look, we can't no-lynch today. I'm willing to entertain shenannies if there will be people around We need a lynch Oats I think is mafia Austin thinks is mafia (look at austin's post if he isn't town this game like i dont even know hes bleeding green) Even if you might be fence on Oats or leaning scummy on him consider the information town gains from his lynch... two whole days of pushing on One guy 2 days of vote analysis to look at. This kind of info can't be garnered from anyone else in game. Vote Oatsmaster best day 2 lynch 2014!!! I have four posts left I can give them away if people need to change votes I'm going to go look at post counts for people but I think JAT is the only one that is close to capped. IF anyone knows who needs them let me know. On May 01 2014 08:27 Caller wrote: in case it isnt obvious poofter is mafia day vig and koshi was some poor townie idiot poofter waited until half of town wanted koshi dead then made case to shoot him town didnt say no he shoots no repercussions, hurray for mafia getting a free kill dont believe me? look at his most recent post, it screams mafia I was the first one to call out Koshi I think and I made a HUGE post against him at the start of the day... consider reading the thread before posting. Plenty of Townie people said I shouldn't shoot him Jat wanted to shoot me for it and I think he is townie (look at the passion he's putting into the Foolishness lynch which I think hes wrong about but its town passion imo) Foolish thought he was scummy but not a shot. I still think it was a good shot. @Caller What about my last post made me mafia? Also who do you think is mafia with me? Also is Slam scummy for shooting like he did? @Ace/VE You guys need to choose a wagon so we can at least get a lynch. VE you made a post but not a vote man you need to at least pick a side sitting on the sidelines is an awesome way to let scum get a no lynch and we're close on Oats if we don't get them then I think a mafia gets away. I know VE this is your time to be awake if you're playing Video mafia take the time to get in here and make your vote count. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On May 01 2014 10:11 justanothertownie wrote: Meh, I don't think oats sucks as town. And I'm confident in that read. I've mislynched before. I will likely mislynch again, assuming I play even just a single other game. It's cool, but you're getting super super worked up over this, when we've had 48 hours now. I know you've been on Foolishness's case, calling him out, but it's not like Oats hasn't had votes, hasn't been a lynch option.No, I absolutely cannot tell you oats is town. But unlike Foolishness oats is KNOWN TO SUCK AS TOWN - it is NOT impossible that he is town. You can't look at his play and tell me with a straight face that this is town foolishness. You just can't. I have no idea how it is possible to have a stronger scumread on oats. I am seriously tempted to shoot oats just to end this madness. I don't care if you can read oats or not. Look at THIS GAME. What's the towniest thing he's done? The scummiest? If you're townoats, what's your thought process throughout the game. Same for scum. Given that you were worried about a chance to defend himself, do you feel he adequately did so? Does it seem he really...TRIED? Did he try/not try in a townie/scummy way? BLAH BLAH BLAH. Who cares if you can read oatsmaster. Is whoever is behind the computer, logging onto the Oatsmaster account, helping town this game? Trying to help town? Austin if you get your lynch and oats does not flip scum I will yell and rage at you and you better promise to lead a foolishness lynch day3. I can't believe how hard it is to get that mafia lynched although almost noone really has a townread on him, almost everyone has a townread on me and confirmed town sandroba GUARANTEED that he is in fact scum. If Oats flips town, I'll go boohoo and I'll read stuff and see where things are at. We'll also have kills, possible claims, blah blah. You're really up in arms here.Poofter you're not helping my paranoia, lol. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On May 01 2014 10:29 Oatsmaster wrote: Can you talk a little about Palmar?Man I hate this killing people for info shit. Its bad and scummy. His early game actions make him anti-town, The End? Or he's Mother Townresa, somewhere in between, blah blah. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On May 01 2014 10:04 Tehpoofter wrote: Foolishness Is town because he has clearly been reading the thread and holding people accountable for promises they've made. Note that he is pointing out them and not pushing for their immediate lynch for not doing so. This distinction is important because if he was just like "omg Ceph said he would do something and hasn't lets lynch him" that sounds like mafia pushing for an easy mislynch but he says this instead: He wants the info from the player hes not pushing for a lynch instantly he thinks its scummy but hes reasonable and wants to point it out/pressure him to give info. Note in this case it worked as Ceph gave his reads and Foolish responds to them: This does not make him town in any way. Holy shit, pressuring people to do what they promised is the easiest thing to do as mafia. Looks like you are contributing while in reality you didn’t create any useful content yourself. On May 01 2014 10:04 Tehpoofter wrote: Here he responds to the case and he doesn't like what Ceph had to say (me personally I read him as town because of his post although I dislike his Foolish/Odin read I still think it was town) Foolish here reasons with Ceph's idea not with him. A mafia Foolish could just call ceph scummy and vote for him here its an easy thing to push and he doesn't he argues against the idea to try to get him to follow his thought process. The part I bolded just radiates town: He encourages people to post cases and not just sheep which is an excellent way to catch scum because scum can't just blindly sheep. Why can’t he do that as mafia? Again he doesn’t say anything insightful himself. Also: HE SEEMS TO HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ALL THE PEOPLE SHEEPING AUSTINS OATS READ RIGHT NOW! FISHY, EH? Who besides austin made a real case on oats, hm? On May 01 2014 10:04 Tehpoofter wrote: Look at Foolishness' big post for the day:+ Show Spoiler + On April 30 2014 07:45 Foolishness wrote: Except it wasn't a bad case because 12 people voted on it? Oops. If someone wants to post an actual case against me I'll gladly respond to it (or quote it for me in case I missed it). I haven't seen any real arguments about how I'm mafia. Most of them are silly because they boil down to: 1) sandroba said so. Of which I have to say: a) He also said that Palmar is mafia (and Palmar said he was mafia let's not forget that) and Palmar is a much more questionable character than I am for obvious reasons. b) Like you have never nightkilled someone to incriminate another town? c) I already refuted what sandroba had to say about me. If you need clarification bring up an argument and I'll respond. 2) I pushed a "bad" case on day 1. Of which I have to say: a) It wasn't bad because a bunch of people (including townies) voted on it. b) A bunch of people independently came up with reasons why it was a good lynch. c) It's not my mafia meta like some people claim. According to the past 4 forum mafia games I've played I have either 1) done jack shit while I was alive or 2) make a case but never follow through. On that subject, I return to what I said in an earlier post. Some of you seem to have this idea that yesterday's lynch was a mafia controlled lynch. I find this hard to believe and it's probably not true. The main reason being is because of point 2b) above: a bunch of people all had given reasons why strongandbig was a good lynch, all of which came independently. These people include Koshi, geript (confirmed town), Blazinghand and myself. If this was a mafia controlled lynch than a lot of people who started the wagon on him would have to be mafia (which is not true. Of the 4 people I listed there I'm sure we're all town. At most one is mafia if you want to hedge I guess). Not to mention there was opposition to the lynch in the form of good opposition from people like Odin and prphlz (by this I mean actual reasons behind why he's town and not just "this lynch sucks like some people did"). Furthermore, how many people are there that sat and watched that lynch happen? There's a lot, and I'll come back to those people below and I've already said who in my previous posts. For every person in this game that is making constructive posts and pushing reads it feels like there's 2 people who are sheeping (though 2 is an exaggeration in reality). What do you think is the most likely scenario for what has happened this game: 1) mafia pushed the strongandbig lynch really hard. Of the voters for strongandbig there's ~4 mafia voting, and half the town is sitting derping while this happened. 2) Town pushed a lynch onto a town. Mafia have all their votes spread out and just sat and watched it happened (which means sheeping reads, not pushing whoever they are voting for and letting town self-destruct). It should be clear what happened yesterday unless you're in conspiracy theory land. I'm not really sure what this says about Oatsmaster (if anything) given that he was second in line to be lynched. What I do know is that mafia were very content with how things played out yesterday and did not fear one of their own getting killed. This means that the vast majority (if not all) of the mafia team were sitting back and sheeping along, because why would you put yourself out there to get townie's lynched when you can just let the town do it for you? The people noteworthy here are: RebirthOfLegend Who is guilty of: 1) Sheeping the vote read here: + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 04:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: As my tunnel buddy, I'm required to agree with everything foolishness says. ##Vote StrongAndBig And then claiming a whopping 7 hours later that he came to the same conclusion himself... + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 11:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Before reading both foolishness and blazinghands cases on SNB I took a look through his filter just so I could get my own read beforehand. I'd be inclined to see it the same as they did. It felt like SNB was trying a bit too hard to be non committal on everything. It just struck me as effort into making sure he wasn't saying anything anyone could take issue with. Foolishness went a bit more indepth and compared it to other games, however I'd say it seemed clear enough that the only real incentive to put effort into being as neutral as humanly possible is to hide the fact you are scum and be able to point fingers at those who were more influential on the D1 lynch. Sorry about my low activity, I will try to be more consistent with my posting going forward. Also, ##donate 2 posts to SNB. You seem to be low on posts, I suppose its only fair to give you a bit more to work with in the few hours before your demise. I will be around until deadline if I don't accidentally fall asleep while watching dreamhack. And then 2) in his most recent post here: He says that what Palmar did is quite scummy. Yet he said nothing about Palmar on day 1 (or Caller for that matter). He also promised that he would give the town something by the end of night 1 and he did not deliver. So let's get this straight. He says that Palmar is scummy for trying to mess with the town on day 1 (true statement, yes). Yet he did not feel the need to say anything about it on day 1 and just go along with the strongandbig read? What townie thinks that someone is likely scum and then not vote him, not say anything about it, and not push him? Yes, he is noteworthy for being an inactive player. When he's town he's much more aggressive with his reads and actually pushes his targets. Check out his post here from a game where he's town. Note that he actually makes a case using his own thoughts and follows through (he talks about cheesecake in later posts as well). When he's mafia he never makes a constructive case like this and only provides backhanded reasoning. In purgatory and storm mafia (where he's mafia) he comments on a lot of things to make it seem like he cares but he doesn't have the vested interest in hunting mafia or figuring out the game. ##Vote: RebirthOfLegend WaveOfShadow Who is guilty of: 1) Not doing anything day 1 in a broad sense. He's always a big presence in the thread but most people seem to have forgotten he was even in this game (I know I did on multiple occasions). 2) Flailing his vote around on day 1. First voting for sandroba here + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote: I was actually going to suggest more people shoot so we can use the coroner and veal a whole bunch of stuff at once ( I'm assuming its a one shot that only reveals one set of no flips ) Also ##Vote:sandroba And then unvoting an hour and a half later (to his credit that was when sandroba came back to the thread and voted a bunch). Then voting for Oats even though he doesn't like the case here: + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 10:48 WaveofShadow wrote: Dunno man, looks like Oats bein' Oats to me. I'd lynch him over SnB though for sure. 3) Says Palmar is suspicious and should probably be lynched but never doing anything about it: 4) Follows some weird train of thought that ends up with him voting Blazinghand? I can't even follow his logic through this one. He keeps saying he wants to sheep someone but doesn't seem to quite know where to go with that. He's either bored townie or mafia. I don't think I've ever seen him bored. Palmar Who is guilty of a lot of things. To be clear I will maintain my position that Palmar is town but I am still listing him here because he fits the bill and I would still vote for him should the rest of us decide he needs to die. My vote is staying on the better case for now. Oastmaster Who is guilty of: 1) Voting for strongandbig without any reasoning here: + Show Spoiler + On April 28 2014 01:11 Oatsmaster wrote: man wtf yamato why are you derailing a lynch and not proposing anything else you useless bastard. For the record, I am totes fine with SnB lynch and I now think that geript is not scum because he dropped his policy lynch. Which he had arguably more reason to continue with ##unvote ##vote SnB Im going to sleep, kill scum guyys pls. 2) General absence on day 1. He was next in line to get lynched and hardly seemed to care. --- I have to stop here for now but I know I'm on the cusp of having this figured out. He comes out with his reads in a concise case like fashion hes pushing on people that either haven't done shit or have been doing scummy shit. The only weird thing he says is about Palmer and I called him out for it and he later gave in my opinion his only weird post of the day: I already posted earlier how the story he is inventing in this post makes no fucking sense since he assumes scum sat back while their buddy oats was on the verge of getting lynched. Pushing on people that haven’t done shit is the easy thing to do. Especially when those people are known to do so like RoL and oats. On May 01 2014 10:04 Tehpoofter wrote: This is the only weird part of his reads and the only thing that felt off to me. Not sure how much I like this answer but the rest of his posts feel town to me and I can't see myself voting on him today over Oats who has been lurky is very much tied to Koshi and gives us a TON of info for vote analysis on flip. JAT Point out where I'm going wrong please but I think Foolish is town. 15(I have a double post idk how but counting it) (+4 given) I concede that getting oats alignment is pretty valuable but if it comes at the expense of a possible mislynch while we could have lynched obvious scum Foolishness it just isn’t worth it. Nothing you posted makes Foolishness town. Literally nothing. On May 01 2014 10:28 austinmcc wrote: Meh, I don't think oats sucks as town. And I'm confident in that read. I've mislynched before. I will likely mislynch again, assuming I play even just a single other game. It's cool, but you're getting super super worked up over this, when we've had 48 hours now. I know you've been on Foolishness's case, calling him out, but it's not like Oats hasn't had votes, hasn't been a lynch option. I don't care if you can read oats or not. Look at THIS GAME. What's the towniest thing he's done? The scummiest? If you're townoats, what's your thought process throughout the game. Same for scum. Given that you were worried about a chance to defend himself, do you feel he adequately did so? Does it seem he really...TRIED? Did he try/not try in a townie/scummy way? BLAH BLAH BLAH. Who cares if you can read oatsmaster. Is whoever is behind the computer, logging onto the Oatsmaster account, helping town this game? Trying to help town? If Oats flips town, I'll go boohoo and I'll read stuff and see where things are at. We'll also have kills, possible claims, blah blah. You're really up in arms here. Poofter you're not helping my paranoia, lol. That’s not how this game works austin. Because it is just a fact that it is oats that is behind the computer. No it does not seem like he really tried but does that make him scum? No, it doesn’t. Look at Titanic I if you don’t believe me. If someone has posts to spare I will always take them of course. If I am not mistaken I have one left and will save this to be able to switch which I will only do if we nolynch otherwise. | ||
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Poland8075 Posts
On May 01 2014 10:25 Tehpoofter wrote: THIS IS IMPORTANT We need a lynch Oats I think is mafia Austin thinks is mafia (look at austin's post if he isn't town this game like i dont even know hes bleeding green) Even if you might be fence on Oats or leaning scummy on him consider the information town gains from his lynch... two whole days of pushing on One guy 2 days of vote analysis to look at. This kind of info can't be garnered from anyone else in game. Vote Oatsmaster best day 2 lynch 2014!!! I have four posts left I can give them away if people need to change votes I'm going to go look at post counts for people but I think JAT is the only one that is close to capped. IF anyone knows who needs them let me know. I was the first one to call out Koshi I think and I made a HUGE post against him at the start of the day... consider reading the thread before posting. Plenty of Townie people said I shouldn't shoot him Jat wanted to shoot me for it and I think he is townie (look at the passion he's putting into the Foolishness lynch which I think hes wrong about but its town passion imo) Foolish thought he was scummy but not a shot. I still think it was a good shot. @Caller What about my last post made me mafia? Also who do you think is mafia with me? Also is Slam scummy for shooting like he did? @Ace/VE You guys need to choose a wagon so we can at least get a lynch. VE you made a post but not a vote man you need to at least pick a side sitting on the sidelines is an awesome way to let scum get a no lynch and we're close on Oats if we don't get them then I think a mafia gets away. I know VE this is your time to be awake if you're playing Video mafia take the time to get in here and make your vote count. you're operating on the assumption that Koshi was mafia and you're trying to take town cred for killing a supposed mafia. How do we know that? How do YOU know that? You seem to be operating on the assumption that you know more than the rest of us, and I can only think of one reason for that. Slam is scummy for sheeping me after killing someone randomly. He's probably mafia. | ||
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Poland8075 Posts
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United States2911 Posts
@Jat. If you're so confident on foolish we have roles outed that can help make sure your shot hits or you can shoot him and vote Oats. Like I think foolish is town and both of these ideas I think are really terrible but IF we happen to be wrong on Oats I think we have a safety net in the fact that you still have a bullet. I agree with your point that Oats can look scummy as town but I felt like in Titanic he put through the effort to at least try to find scum in this game I haven't seen that and he looks a lot like he did right before and after he Trapped WoS in that Catastrophe game as scum. Also Jat who on the Oats train do you think is scummy? I realize I'm probably among them since we didn't see eye to eye on my shot but who else? just me? @Austin Sorry if I make you paranoid bro just trying to lynch scum. What do you think of Ace/VE not being here and voting no one that is going to get lynched today? I had town reads on both starting the day but their lurkyness is giving me pause. 3 posts left. | ||
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