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On March 31 2014 23:37 LoLAdriankat wrote:If Rick, Daryl, and Michonne can get themselves out of a situation like the one in the first half in the episode, then the situation they're in should be no problem. Also, it's a line almost straight from the comic books. Some of you guys thought it was cheesy but I almost squealed in excitement. + Show Spoiler +Overall, it was a great episode but it feels more like a mid-season finale. They need to start figuring out how they should end each season.
They also have, you know, weapons in the scene you give.
It feels a lot less convincing when you say "They're messing with the wrong people", when you're currently captured and unarmed lol. What is he going to do, yell intimidatingly at them from inside the box?
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On April 01 2014 03:16 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 03:12 Derez wrote:
It feels like nothing at all took place the entire season. Carol starts killing civilians off and then gets banished, Hershel dies, the prison gets destroyed, Carol has to kill her adopted kids, we meet the three new characters, Beth gets kidnapped, Rick devolves from a farmer into a throat-tearing survivalist, and the group gets kidnapped by what seems to be cannibals. But yeah aside from completely changing the dynamic of the show and killing off a main character and having character development, nothing happened.
Sorry, you're right. I should have said it felt like nothing at all happened since the destruction of the prison. Last 6 episodes or so felt like pure filler to introduce even more unlikely storylines.
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On March 31 2014 23:37 LoLAdriankat wrote:If Rick, Daryl, and Michonne can get themselves out of a situation like the one in the first half in the episode, then the situation they're in should be no problem. Also, it's a line almost straight from the comic books. Some of you guys thought it was cheesy but I almost squealed in excitement. + Show Spoiler +Overall, it was a great episode but it feels more like a mid-season finale. They need to start figuring out how they should end each season.
As someone above said, they actually have weapons in that scene, making what Rick says far more credible. Not to mention not having an arm makes him more kick-ass in general. The whole scene just didn't have nearly the same impact in the show.
Just like the guy at the start of the episode who got eaten by zombies. I read somewhere that in the comics, he was a guy who decided to commit suicide-by-zombie, then changed his mind at the last minute. That perfectly explains everything about that scene... only the show did not explain any of that. It just showed the guy with no context whatsoever.
The show (like any other show) is supposed to work independently of its source material. I have a feeling that this show, very often, simply does not work without knowing the comics.
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Hyrule18918 Posts
Actually it was them deciding not to help someone in need and being totally selfish, and is a parallel to the Terminus group who are completely focused on their own survival over helping those in need, in addition to contrasting them both over the Wanderers who are completely selfish and will go out of their way to cause harm because "fuck you that's why"
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Canada8157 Posts
Don't forget about the bag of guns that he burried just outside of terminus. If they can get access to that, the tables will turn fast
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On April 01 2014 03:49 tofucake wrote:
Actually it was them deciding not to help someone in need and being totally selfish, and is a parallel to the Terminus group who are completely focused on their own survival over helping those in need, in addition to contrasting them both over the Wanderers who are completely selfish and will go out of their way to cause harm because "fuck you that's why"
I get that. I'm just annoyed that there was no exposition whatsoever about who that guy was and why he got there. It felt completely random and arbitrary, and pretty much like a blatantly obvious plot point. "We need to show the audience that the group's first goal is to survive, even if outsiders die because of it. So let's spawn a random outsider in need and not have Rick's group help him!"
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Yeah, they're definitely a bunch of canibals. If you rewatch the scene where they are being herded by the gunners, there are a lot of things to see.
First: gunholes everywhere. They aren't the first people to be gunned down that road.
Second: Rick passes a whole bunch bones on his way. I paused the view and they are definitely human bones.
Picture from the series in the spoilers:
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Edit: picture isn't very clear, but you get the idea.
Spoiler from the Comics:
+ Show Spoiler +Warning you + Show Spoiler +I knew canibals were coming, but I'm very surprised to see it's such a big group still alive. Doesn't really seem all that realistic (well, aside from the fact that it's a serie about Zombies). They would need to be hoarding in a lot of people to feed so many people.
In the strips it was just a small group of people abducting a single person as they found them an eat them while keeping him alive as long as possible.
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On April 01 2014 04:12 Grendel wrote:Yeah, they're definitely a bunch of canibals. If you rewatch the scene where they are being herded by the gunners, there are a lot of things to see. First: gunholes everywhere. They aren't the first people to be gunned down that road. Second: Rick passes a whole bunch bones on his way. I paused the view and they are definitely human bones. Picture from the series in the spoilers: + Show Spoiler +Edit: picture isn't very clear, but you get the idea. Spoiler from the Comics: + Show Spoiler +Warning you + Show Spoiler +I knew canibals were coming, but I'm very surprised to see it's such a big group still alive. Doesn't really seem all that realistic (well, aside from the fact that it's a serie about Zombies). They would need to be hoarding in a lot of people to feed so many people.
In the strips it was just a small group of people abducting a single person as they found them an eat them while keeping him alive as long as possible.
Spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +Don't fucking predict in this thread please. You've read the series you know what's going to happen. Same thing ruins the GoT thread. People "predicting" what's going to happen when they alrdy know 100% and are just spoiling people.
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The things I said are backed up by proof from the series... No need to get all defensive about it. I can still be wrong and will be the first one to admit if I am.
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It's pretty much 100% obvious they're cannibals. Attacking him over something 99% of people reading this thread are most likely already thinking makes no sense at all.
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On April 01 2014 05:09 Cloud9157 wrote:
It's pretty much 100% obvious they're cannibals. Attacking him over something 99% of people reading this thread are most likely already thinking makes no sense at all.
Until he "predicts" stuff no one else thought of because he knows way more than everyone else.
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On April 01 2014 05:10 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 05:09 Cloud9157 wrote:
It's pretty much 100% obvious they're cannibals. Attacking him over something 99% of people reading this thread are most likely already thinking makes no sense at all. Until he "predicts" stuff no one else thought of because he knows way more than everyone else.
Stop being so paranoid. It's really not a big deal, no one's getting upset about it but you. If he completely spoiled next season's plot, we'd probably be pissed but it's something that we all considered pretty obvious.
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Hyrule18918 Posts
The series and comics are different enough that predicting the show from the comics usually doesn't work out.
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+ Show Spoiler +Besides, if he didn't read the comic spoiler tags he couldn't even have known I read the comics in the first place. But whatever, doesn't matter.
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On April 01 2014 05:42 Grendel wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Besides, if he didn't read the comic spoiler tags he couldn't even have known I read the comics in the first place. But whatever, doesn't matter.
I don't care about Walking Dead spoilers as much as other stuff for some reason. It's obvious I read it. But whatever, looks like I'm alone in this regard so I'll just be on my way.
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On April 01 2014 05:09 Cloud9157 wrote:
It's pretty much 100% obvious they're cannibals. Attacking him over something 99% of people reading this thread are most likely already thinking makes no sense at all.
I thought everything they said in the scene where they were serving food made it obvious that they were cannibals. "When we absorb people, we grow stronger" etc.
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How the fuck did Daryl's group even know that Rick was the one who killed that guy in the bathroom anyway?
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On April 01 2014 11:51 Takuma wrote:
How the fuck did Daryl's group even know that Rick was the one who killed that guy in the bathroom anyway?
Bandana guy saw Rick hiding under the bed in the house rick and carl stopped after the prison.
Hey, I didn't saw Tyreese. Guess he had more meat and was the one being cooked.
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On April 01 2014 12:10 GWdeathscythe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 11:51 Takuma wrote:
How the fuck did Daryl's group even know that Rick was the one who killed that guy in the bathroom anyway? Bandana guy saw Rick hiding under the bed in the house rick and carl stopped after the prison. Hey, I didn't saw Tyreese. Guess he had more meat and was the one being cooked.
Tyreese wasn't part of the first group that came there. Him and Carol and the baby are still out there. When Rick gave his line in last scene, he was actually talking about Carol :D
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The whole scene with Daryl's group was just stupid and it put me in a bad mood so I couldn't enjoy the rest of episode. It got much better later but I still feel a little disappointed with this finale. Overall I think it was the best season since the first one. Zombies are no longer just a fence decoration and they got rid of most of annoying characters. Groups are constantly on the move so we get to see new people and locations which is much better than the boredom of farm/prison.
About the spoilers, if someone predicts something and then follows it up with comic stuff in the same post then naturally I assume that his predictions are actually spoilers. Do you think it's paranoid?
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