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I'm currently at a place in my life where I have a bunch of periods of 15-30 mins of useless downtime. I currently use it as most people do, aimlessly scrolling on Facebook or reading a serial novel on my iPhone.
What I really want is some ideas as to useful and productive ways to spend these small intervals of time that actually teach me something that is applicable to the real world. I am a generally productive person (currently in law school) and wasting time has always been painful for me!
I'm sure there must be some good apps or something out there that could help. Thoughts?
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i go reddit and TIL subreddit, lots of very interesting stuff there to read
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Seriously, you have unlimited knowledge available to you at your fingertips. Just let wikipedia take you anywhere. Or start reading some interesting blogs/editorials.
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I actually learned coding in python in my 15 minute breaks. To be fair, i already knew some other programming languages, but coding is not too hard, and can pretty good be learned in 15 minute blocks.
In my opinion, it is always good to be able to program by oneself, since computers are everywhere these days =)
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On February 17 2014 03:27 FO-nTTaX wrote: I actually learned coding in python in my 15 minute breaks. To be fair, i already knew some other programming languages, but coding is not too hard, and can pretty good be learned in 15 minute blocks.
In my opinion, it is always good to be able to program by oneself, since computers are everywhere these days =) I'm doing part-time programming at school for certain courses and Python has always been one of the languages that I wanted to learn, but there are so many resources to choose from that I couldn't pinpoint one and start from there. Can you perhaps share some of the resources that you used to learn in during these 15 minute stints?
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Look for pictures on your phone and beat your meat, you'll see how fast time flies.
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On February 17 2014 03:39 NeThZOR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 03:27 FO-nTTaX wrote: I actually learned coding in python in my 15 minute breaks. To be fair, i already knew some other programming languages, but coding is not too hard, and can pretty good be learned in 15 minute blocks.
In my opinion, it is always good to be able to program by oneself, since computers are everywhere these days =) I'm doing part-time programming at school for certain courses and Python has always been one of the languages that I wanted to learn, but there are so many resources to choose from that I couldn't pinpoint one and start from there. Can you perhaps share some of the resources that you used to learn in during these 15 minute stints? For starting at the raw edge, this page is pretty good, since you can test what you coded right on the page in your browser, without even installing anything: http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/python For me, it proved to be faster to just search for the syntax of the functions i wanted to use (like print methods, function definitions and so on) and just start programming.
Also it always was easier for me to start with programming a game, since it just is more fun while testing the program =)
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On February 17 2014 03:27 FO-nTTaX wrote: I actually learned coding in python in my 15 minute breaks. To be fair, i already knew some other programming languages, but coding is not too hard, and can pretty good be learned in 15 minute blocks.
In my opinion, it is always good to be able to program by oneself, since computers are everywhere these days =)
You can learn to program on your phone? I don't have access to my laptop/desktop during most of these periods of time
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Just as i wrote above: On http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/python you can do it right in a browser, so you don't have to install anything. Also, the steps are very small, so you can stop like every 30 seconds. I understand, that it's not the easiest to type too much on a mobile, but trying should be worth it =)
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Go read a book. It's what I do on mine quite frequently.
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You could also do a power nap or meditate. They will make you more alert and productive through the rest of your day.
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I'm sure people have 'learned to code' by playing games on codeacademy, but speaking as a self-taught senior software engineer I would like to offer some advice.
Your career path is as a lawyer, so I don't expect that you'd want to pursue another career path right now. The most useful aspect of programming for you to learn is the overarching concepts so that if you possibly run into a technical case or pick up a hobby where writing a script or two can be helpful you'll know where to start. If you learn to write some basic python in an isolated environment you will have a very hard time finding ways to apply that knowledge.
If you read a book on data structures and algorithms and follow along with all the code samples you'll actually be able to write some code on your own. If after you read through that you're still interested in programming and want to focus on something more specific like web programming or game programming you'll actually be able to understand their content. I personally took the web programming route and added in a couple of upper division architecture night classes from a local college (x86 assembly and web application architecture).
If you find reading about coding exceptionally dry then it's probably not for you, and there's nothing wrong with that, but spending 15 minute stints on code-academy just isn't practical.
I'd recommend picking up a notebook and some pencils and learning to draw. There are a lot of really ways to learn how to draw that can be done anywhere and in small isolated sessions. I encourage you to watch a video series by Scott Robertson: http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/323/#.UwEnCkJdUz4 You can find it for free on some other sites. He also has a series on rendering matte surfaces http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/333/How-to-Render-Matte-Surfaces-1#.UwEnoUJdUz4
Watch through the videos once without following along, and then on the second round use the pause button liberally and follow along. If you complete every demo in those four videos you will be able to draw. It took me probably around 120hrs to complete every single demo from the videos to the same quality as was shown, but now I have no problem rendering pretty much any form in perspective.
Lots of opportunities to do silly things, but I'd personally recommend just letting your downtime be downtime. Play sudoku, text with cute girls, aimlessly wander about campus. Stepping away from whatever you're doing for 15 minutes at a time is actually quite a good practice. It's why we have pingpong and darts at the office, we can step away from a frustrating problem and play a game, and then return to the problem relaxed and possibly with some advice from a co-worker.
TL;DR: Read a data-structures and algorithms book if you want to learn to code (not codeacademy) Watch a couple video series by Scott Robertson and follow along if you want to learn to draw
Don't do either and just let your free time be free if you want to live a happier life.
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On February 17 2014 06:11 CatNzHat wrote: I'm sure people have 'learned to code' by playing games on codeacademy, but speaking as a self-taught senior software engineer I would like to offer some advice. I didn't say that you'll get to be the best programmer ever known by this, but you'd at least learn some of the basics. Codeacademy isn't by any means a replacement for studying computer sciences or learning to code for making a life of it, but if you enjoy it, i think it can be pretty entertaining.
In the end, it always depends if you enjoy it, since this should be for entertainment, and not for getting an expert in the field.
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On February 17 2014 06:11 CatNzHat wrote:I'm sure people have 'learned to code' by playing games on codeacademy, but speaking as a self-taught senior software engineer I would like to offer some advice. Your career path is as a lawyer, so I don't expect that you'd want to pursue another career path right now. The most useful aspect of programming for you to learn is the overarching concepts so that if you possibly run into a technical case or pick up a hobby where writing a script or two can be helpful you'll know where to start. If you learn to write some basic python in an isolated environment you will have a very hard time finding ways to apply that knowledge. If you read a book on data structures and algorithms and follow along with all the code samples you'll actually be able to write some code on your own. If after you read through that you're still interested in programming and want to focus on something more specific like web programming or game programming you'll actually be able to understand their content. I personally took the web programming route and added in a couple of upper division architecture night classes from a local college (x86 assembly and web application architecture). If you find reading about coding exceptionally dry then it's probably not for you, and there's nothing wrong with that, but spending 15 minute stints on code-academy just isn't practical. I'd recommend picking up a notebook and some pencils and learning to draw. There are a lot of really ways to learn how to draw that can be done anywhere and in small isolated sessions. I encourage you to watch a video series by Scott Robertson: http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/323/#.UwEnCkJdUz4 You can find it for free on some other sites. He also has a series on rendering matte surfaces http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/333/How-to-Render-Matte-Surfaces-1#.UwEnoUJdUz4Watch through the videos once without following along, and then on the second round use the pause button liberally and follow along. If you complete every demo in those four videos you will be able to draw. It took me probably around 120hrs to complete every single demo from the videos to the same quality as was shown, but now I have no problem rendering pretty much any form in perspective. Lots of opportunities to do silly things, but I'd personally recommend just letting your downtime be downtime. Play sudoku, text with cute girls, aimlessly wander about campus. Stepping away from whatever you're doing for 15 minutes at a time is actually quite a good practice. It's why we have pingpong and darts at the office, we can step away from a frustrating problem and play a game, and then return to the problem relaxed and possibly with some advice from a co-worker. TL;DR: Read a data-structures and algorithms book if you want to learn to code (not codeacademy) Watch a couple video series by Scott Robertson and follow along if you want to learn to draw Don't do either and just let your free time be free if you want to live a happier life.
I think these are some great points! I'm not looking for a second career, I'm just not so good with downtime. I was more curious about how people learn to program on a phone than actually doing it myself.
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On February 17 2014 07:04 KillerSOS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 06:11 CatNzHat wrote:I'm sure people have 'learned to code' by playing games on codeacademy, but speaking as a self-taught senior software engineer I would like to offer some advice. Your career path is as a lawyer, so I don't expect that you'd want to pursue another career path right now. The most useful aspect of programming for you to learn is the overarching concepts so that if you possibly run into a technical case or pick up a hobby where writing a script or two can be helpful you'll know where to start. If you learn to write some basic python in an isolated environment you will have a very hard time finding ways to apply that knowledge. If you read a book on data structures and algorithms and follow along with all the code samples you'll actually be able to write some code on your own. If after you read through that you're still interested in programming and want to focus on something more specific like web programming or game programming you'll actually be able to understand their content. I personally took the web programming route and added in a couple of upper division architecture night classes from a local college (x86 assembly and web application architecture). If you find reading about coding exceptionally dry then it's probably not for you, and there's nothing wrong with that, but spending 15 minute stints on code-academy just isn't practical. I'd recommend picking up a notebook and some pencils and learning to draw. There are a lot of really ways to learn how to draw that can be done anywhere and in small isolated sessions. I encourage you to watch a video series by Scott Robertson: http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/323/#.UwEnCkJdUz4 You can find it for free on some other sites. He also has a series on rendering matte surfaces http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/333/How-to-Render-Matte-Surfaces-1#.UwEnoUJdUz4Watch through the videos once without following along, and then on the second round use the pause button liberally and follow along. If you complete every demo in those four videos you will be able to draw. It took me probably around 120hrs to complete every single demo from the videos to the same quality as was shown, but now I have no problem rendering pretty much any form in perspective. Lots of opportunities to do silly things, but I'd personally recommend just letting your downtime be downtime. Play sudoku, text with cute girls, aimlessly wander about campus. Stepping away from whatever you're doing for 15 minutes at a time is actually quite a good practice. It's why we have pingpong and darts at the office, we can step away from a frustrating problem and play a game, and then return to the problem relaxed and possibly with some advice from a co-worker. TL;DR: Read a data-structures and algorithms book if you want to learn to code (not codeacademy) Watch a couple video series by Scott Robertson and follow along if you want to learn to draw Don't do either and just let your free time be free if you want to live a happier life. I think these are some great points! I'm not looking for a second career, I'm just not so good with downtime. I was more curious about how people learn to program on a phone than actually doing it myself.
All the symbols would be a huge pain to type out on the phone, I've considered doing that since I have a lot of downtime on my phone as well but decided against it.
I just have a few sites I visit during my downtime, TeamLiquid (obviously) damninteresting.com and cracked.com . I'd recommend damninteresting, but they don't update too often so depending how often you have downtime you might run out of things to read. Alternatively I just work on my homework or research something that interests me, for example health/fitness.
If you have audio I would recommend the DuoLingo app to study a language, I just don't do it since audio would be a problem for me.
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Amazing how people forget the title so quickly.
"Best way to use downtime with only an iPhone?"
He's probably talking about 30 minute intervals between class or something. You don't whip out books on data structures before your class about law, rofl wtf.
Anyways, you should play defend the castle. They have it as an app now.
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