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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:28 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:26 Heartland wrote:On January 05 2014 21:24 Teoita wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Adreme wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Teoita wrote: This map is goddamn ridicolous for blink allins. The counter to it is to not make imbalanced maps, actually listen to the play testers (like the tl strat players) and make that cliff going to the main similar to the one on Ohana.
Goddamn it. Well Maru built to blind counter it and it seems to have worked. The thing with blink allins is that they are crazy deceptive. Nothing stops the toss from just making 8 blink stalkers and taking a third instead, while the poor terran sits there going FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK BUNKERS FUCK. I'm fine with allins being part of the game, but it's boring as hell when on some maps it's the only thing you shoudl do (the exception is soultrains ofc xD) I see what you're saying, but don't you think there's a case for Terran to scout better during the attack? With SCVs like Maru is doing now, or with another Reaper, scan, stray marine, etc Dunno if the toss has map control with stalkers pre stim you cant do much scouting...at the end of the day it's just easier to make mains without insane surface area (that coincidentally also make pvp vs blink a bit more reasonable, again see ohana)
On January 05 2014 21:24 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:22 Adreme wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Teoita wrote: This map is goddamn ridicolous for blink allins. The counter to it is to not make imbalanced maps, actually listen to the play testers (like the tl strat players) and make that cliff going to the main similar to the one on Ohana.
Goddamn it. Well Maru built to blind counter it and it seems to have worked. The thing with blink allins is that they are crazy deceptive. Nothing stops the toss from just making 8 blink stalkers and taking a third instead, while the poor terran sits there going FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK BUNKERS FUCK. I'm fine with allins being part of the game, but it's boring as hell when on some maps it's the only thing you shoudl do (the exception is soultrains ofc xD)
I smell a conspiracy.
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opterown
Australia54748 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote: OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if you know 100% surely that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-
Send Flash next time please! it's just a strong build that can often work if scouted/screwed up (rain vs. dream)
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Yayaya get on with it I want to see Roro's team lose
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:27 sharkie wrote: that was a pretty bad match from KT, only Baby looked good. TY is good. When i do not see him. Swear by god, the only match i have seen of his was the one where he got killed by N probe rush from WJS (RIP) Aria (gl).
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I'm glad Jin Air coach wised up and realised he should play Maru as ace.
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Im happy. Terrans didnt get trashed today plus i have Flash and Maru on my team and Zest on my anti-team. =D
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On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote: OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if the opponent knows with 100% certainty that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-
Send Flash next time please!
this was actually pretty close and with some better decisions (and without the micro fails) Zest could have won.
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Italy12246 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:28 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:27 Adreme wrote: Zest is like "hmmm im getting back in this let me lose all my stalkers to barely kill one bunker and no units to fix that" Yeah, I don't think Zest executed that attack to the best of his ability. It seems a lot more punishing to blink up and down the cliffs, snipe some SCVs, depos and army and then blink out. Overpowering a bunker works only when you get critical mass.
Yep very true
On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote: OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if the opponent knows with 100% certainty that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-
Send Flash next time please!
Ohana and soultrains say hi xD Imo blink allins on Yeonsu are actually THAT ridicolous and zest just fucked up his execution horribly...and still it was kind of close
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well in conclusion.
WELCOME BACK JANUARY TO KT, GOD OF TROLL LINE UPS
WOOT
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opterown
Australia54748 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:29 Kasaraki wrote: I'm glad Jin Air coach wised up and realised he should play Maru as ace. sOs pick last week was fine, since maru's TvZ is not his best. but against KT, with no viable zerg, maru is your man.
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ok Zest, you have betrayed me. Say good bye from my Fantasy team.
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On January 05 2014 21:29 Zealously wrote: Yayaya get on with it I want to see Roro's team lose
Oh, Zealously. You are always entertaining when it comes to Life and your absolute favorite RoRo
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On January 05 2014 21:29 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:27 sharkie wrote: that was a pretty bad match from KT, only Baby looked good. TY is good. When i do not see him. Swear by god, the only match i have seen of his was the one where he got killed by N probe rush from WJS (RIP) Aria (gl).
yeah Baby is a very good player who has a lot of potential, but so inconsistent ..
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the only one that went wrong today was that KT lost ..
everything is so good for FPL today .. flash winning, maru winning twice , TY winning once <3
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On January 05 2014 21:29 VmY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:28 Ragnarork wrote:On January 05 2014 21:27 VmY wrote: It warms my heart to see protoss get destroyed.
I´m sorry protoss players <3 I cannot stress this enough! I feel the same! (Did I mention my last ladder session againt toss went badly? ) Last session, and the one before that...and the one before that!
We are all TvP noobs lol I'm 0-3 vs protoss in my last ladder run.
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Damn it Zest, KT was supposed to win this. Disappointed.
On the other hand, Maru continues to be highly entertaining in his stomping of Protoss.
On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote: OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if the opponent knows with 100% certainty that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-
Send Flash next time please! Hopefully after this game, blink on Yeonsu will be seen less. In fact, it should have become much more rare after TY's dismantling of herO on Yeonsu.
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Terran all-kill. Nerf please
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Terran goes 5-0 in this match.
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4713 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote: OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if you know 100% surely that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-
Send Flash next time please!
Actually, Zest played that badly, had he done what Rain did, which is blink into the main, chip away at the SCVs and army and then overpower it when it is weak, then he would have won, but instead he decided to go for the front, which was fortified by bunkers, and didn't even FF them off properly, allowing them to hold for far too long. And even so he nearly won. So chill, that wasn't stupid, it wasn't Maru winning the game, it was Zest trowing it.
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