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Should've played Baby as ace (now that I got him out of my anti team :D)
Glad Jin Air won though, hopefully they'll start doing better.
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Flash wins, KT loses.
everything is right in the world
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France9034 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:29 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:27 sharkie wrote:
that was a pretty bad match from KT, only Baby looked good. TY is good. When i do not see him. Swear by god, the only match i have seen of his was the one where he got killed by N probe rush from WJS (RIP) Aria (gl).
The single most retarded decision: picking TY in my anti 
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On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote:
OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if the opponent knows with 100% certainty that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-
Send Flash next time please!
The thing is that he almost won anways. It was really close in the end.
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On January 05 2014 21:30 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:29 Kasaraki wrote:
I'm glad Jin Air coach wised up and realised he should play Maru as ace. sOs pick last week was fine, since maru's TvZ is not his best. but against KT, with no viable zerg, maru is your man.
KT needs mafia zerg!
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:31 LimitSEA wrote:
Terran goes 5-0 in this match.
Shhhhh.
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Italy12248 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:29 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:28 Teoita wrote:On January 05 2014 21:26 Heartland wrote:On January 05 2014 21:24 Teoita wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Adreme wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Teoita wrote:
This map is goddamn ridicolous for blink allins. The counter to it is to not make imbalanced maps, actually listen to the play testers (like the tl strat players) and make that cliff going to the main similar to the one on Ohana.
Goddamn it. Well Maru built to blind counter it and it seems to have worked. The thing with blink allins is that they are crazy deceptive. Nothing stops the toss from just making 8 blink stalkers and taking a third instead, while the poor terran sits there going FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK BUNKERS FUCK. I'm fine with allins being part of the game, but it's boring as hell when on some maps it's the only thing you shoudl do (the exception is soultrains ofc xD) I see what you're saying, but don't you think there's a case for Terran to scout better during the attack? With SCVs like Maru is doing now, or with another Reaper, scan, stray marine, etc Dunno if the toss has map control with stalkers pre stim you cant do much scouting...at the end of the day it's just easier to make mains without insane surface area (that coincidentally also make pvp vs blink a bit more reasonable, again see ohana) Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:24 Teoita wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Adreme wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Teoita wrote:
This map is goddamn ridicolous for blink allins. The counter to it is to not make imbalanced maps, actually listen to the play testers (like the tl strat players) and make that cliff going to the main similar to the one on Ohana.
Goddamn it. Well Maru built to blind counter it and it seems to have worked. The thing with blink allins is that they are crazy deceptive. Nothing stops the toss from just making 8 blink stalkers and taking a third instead, while the poor terran sits there going FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK BUNKERS FUCK. I'm fine with allins being part of the game, but it's boring as hell when on some maps it's the only thing you shoudl do (the exception is soultrains ofc xD) I smell a conspiracy.
I complained about blink allins on Yeonsu during the map testing for that TLMC and none listened to me
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On January 05 2014 21:29 Keeemy wrote:And I got a CoCa point. Let us celebrate
To the one point 
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:31 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:29 stuchiu wrote:On January 05 2014 21:28 Teoita wrote:On January 05 2014 21:26 Heartland wrote:On January 05 2014 21:24 Teoita wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Adreme wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Teoita wrote:
This map is goddamn ridicolous for blink allins. The counter to it is to not make imbalanced maps, actually listen to the play testers (like the tl strat players) and make that cliff going to the main similar to the one on Ohana.
Goddamn it. Well Maru built to blind counter it and it seems to have worked. The thing with blink allins is that they are crazy deceptive. Nothing stops the toss from just making 8 blink stalkers and taking a third instead, while the poor terran sits there going FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK BUNKERS FUCK. I'm fine with allins being part of the game, but it's boring as hell when on some maps it's the only thing you shoudl do (the exception is soultrains ofc xD) I see what you're saying, but don't you think there's a case for Terran to scout better during the attack? With SCVs like Maru is doing now, or with another Reaper, scan, stray marine, etc Dunno if the toss has map control with stalkers pre stim you cant do much scouting...at the end of the day it's just easier to make mains without insane surface area (that coincidentally also make pvp vs blink a bit more reasonable, again see ohana) On January 05 2014 21:24 Teoita wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Adreme wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Teoita wrote:
This map is goddamn ridicolous for blink allins. The counter to it is to not make imbalanced maps, actually listen to the play testers (like the tl strat players) and make that cliff going to the main similar to the one on Ohana.
Goddamn it. Well Maru built to blind counter it and it seems to have worked. The thing with blink allins is that they are crazy deceptive. Nothing stops the toss from just making 8 blink stalkers and taking a third instead, while the poor terran sits there going FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK BUNKERS FUCK. I'm fine with allins being part of the game, but it's boring as hell when on some maps it's the only thing you shoudl do (the exception is soultrains ofc xD) I smell a conspiracy. I complained about blink allins on Yeonsu during the map testing for that TLMC and none listened to me
I remember that. I on the other hand love blink so I was all for it :D
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Great games today, but this series just made me more reluctant to play.
It´s so satisfying to see the top terrans hold these blink and oracle play, but I just can´t enjoy the game knowing that how the TvP match-up is now played. All of those 4 TvP had oracle or blink all-in in them.
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Whats the name of the Limp Bizkit Song, that they were playing?
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On January 05 2014 21:31 orvinreyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:30 opterown wrote:On January 05 2014 21:29 Kasaraki wrote:
I'm glad Jin Air coach wised up and realised he should play Maru as ace. sOs pick last week was fine, since maru's TvZ is not his best. but against KT, with no viable zerg, maru is your man. KT needs mafia zerg!
They should've gotten Soulkey instead.
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On January 05 2014 21:31 Paljas wrote:
Flash wins, KT loses.
everything is right in the world
No Flash in ace though. Classic KT is Flash wins, but everyone else loses so it doesn't get to ace match.
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On January 05 2014 21:28 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:26 Heartland wrote:On January 05 2014 21:24 Teoita wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Adreme wrote:On January 05 2014 21:22 Teoita wrote:
This map is goddamn ridicolous for blink allins. The counter to it is to not make imbalanced maps, actually listen to the play testers (like the tl strat players) and make that cliff going to the main similar to the one on Ohana.
Goddamn it. Well Maru built to blind counter it and it seems to have worked. The thing with blink allins is that they are crazy deceptive. Nothing stops the toss from just making 8 blink stalkers and taking a third instead, while the poor terran sits there going FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK BUNKERS FUCK. I'm fine with allins being part of the game, but it's boring as hell when on some maps it's the only thing you shoudl do (the exception is soultrains ofc xD) I see what you're saying, but don't you think there's a case for Terran to scout better during the attack? With SCVs like Maru is doing now, or with another Reaper, scan, stray marine, etc Dunno if the toss has map control with stalkers pre stim you cant do much scouting...at the end of the day it's just easier to make mains without insane surface area (that coincidentally also make pvp vs blink a bit more reasonable, again see ohana)
While you are right, I still think map diversity is a good thing, and just having re-skins of the same map would also suck, and if you force map makers to stick to loads of perimeters, like not much surface area, big enough main for production, ramp at natural, small ramp to main, accessible but not to easy third, after a while all the maps will boil down to be very similar (it already is actually, i find it (slightly) sad that we can have "one standard strategy for the whole match up doesn't matter what the map is" as I'd prefer the map to determine the strategy more. But this shows the whole balancing problem again as you cannot please everyone!
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It's not even that Maru played that great. But Zest played that bad that Maru could have beaten him even if his mouse was unplugged. I'm really disapointed.
Did Maru focused the sentry with the army on the cliff or did Zest just threw them at the cliff ?
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On January 05 2014 21:32 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:31 orvinreyes wrote:On January 05 2014 21:30 opterown wrote:On January 05 2014 21:29 Kasaraki wrote:
I'm glad Jin Air coach wised up and realised he should play Maru as ace. sOs pick last week was fine, since maru's TvZ is not his best. but against KT, with no viable zerg, maru is your man. KT needs mafia zerg! They should've gotten Soulkey instead.
buy life from team zombie zenex
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even though i am a fan of team KT .. but i don't mind if KT losing if it meant a terran destroying a cheesy protoss even if its from KT
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On January 05 2014 21:30 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote:
OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if the opponent knows with 100% certainty that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-
Send Flash next time please! this was actually pretty close and with some better decisions (and without the micro fails) Zest could have won.
I don't say could have won I Zest had that game won right before he ran his units into one bunker lost most of his stalkers for it and then lost the advantage he had. He goes into the main he wins, he waits one more warp in round for a critical mass of stalkers he wins, he does anything besides what he did and he wins the game.
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On January 05 2014 21:33 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:32 Ctesias wrote:On January 05 2014 21:31 orvinreyes wrote:On January 05 2014 21:30 opterown wrote:On January 05 2014 21:29 Kasaraki wrote:
I'm glad Jin Air coach wised up and realised he should play Maru as ace. sOs pick last week was fine, since maru's TvZ is not his best. but against KT, with no viable zerg, maru is your man. KT needs mafia zerg! They should've gotten Soulkey instead. buy life from team zombie zenex
That'd be really cool, too.
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