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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 05 2014 12:29 GMT
#1241
On January 05 2014 21:28 Teoita wrote:
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On January 05 2014 21:26 Heartland wrote:
On January 05 2014 21:24 Teoita wrote:
On January 05 2014 21:22 Adreme wrote:
On January 05 2014 21:22 Teoita wrote:
This map is goddamn ridicolous for blink allins. The counter to it is to not make imbalanced maps, actually listen to the play testers (like the tl strat players) and make that cliff going to the main similar to the one on Ohana.

Goddamn it.


Well Maru built to blind counter it and it seems to have worked.


The thing with blink allins is that they are crazy deceptive. Nothing stops the toss from just making 8 blink stalkers and taking a third instead, while the poor terran sits there going FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK BUNKERS FUCK.

I'm fine with allins being part of the game, but it's boring as hell when on some maps it's the only thing you shoudl do (the exception is soultrains ofc xD)


I see what you're saying, but don't you think there's a case for Terran to scout better during the attack? With SCVs like Maru is doing now, or with another Reaper, scan, stray marine, etc


Dunno if the toss has map control with stalkers pre stim you cant do much scouting...at the end of the day it's just easier to make mains without insane surface area (that coincidentally also make pvp vs blink a bit more reasonable, again see ohana)



On January 05 2014 21:24 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 21:22 Adreme wrote:
On January 05 2014 21:22 Teoita wrote:
This map is goddamn ridicolous for blink allins. The counter to it is to not make imbalanced maps, actually listen to the play testers (like the tl strat players) and make that cliff going to the main similar to the one on Ohana.

Goddamn it.


Well Maru built to blind counter it and it seems to have worked.


The thing with blink allins is that they are crazy deceptive. Nothing stops the toss from just making 8 blink stalkers and taking a third instead, while the poor terran sits there going FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK BUNKERS FUCK.

I'm fine with allins being part of the game, but it's boring as hell when on some maps it's the only thing you shoudl do (the exception is soultrains ofc xD)


I smell a conspiracy.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 05 2014 12:29 GMT
#1242
On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote:
OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if you know 100% surely that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-

Send Flash next time please!

it's just a strong build that can often work if scouted/screwed up (rain vs. dream)
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 05 2014 12:29 GMT
#1243
Yayaya get on with it I want to see Roro's team lose
AdministratorBreak the chains
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 05 2014 12:29 GMT
#1244
On January 05 2014 21:27 sharkie wrote:
that was a pretty bad match from KT, only Baby looked good.

TY is good. When i do not see him. Swear by god, the only match i have seen of his was the one where he got killed by N probe rush from WJS (RIP) Aria (gl).
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
January 05 2014 12:29 GMT
#1245
I'm glad Jin Air coach wised up and realised he should play Maru as ace.
DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1246
Im happy. Terrans didnt get trashed today plus i have Flash and Maru on my team and Zest on my anti-team. =D
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1247
On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote:
OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if the opponent knows with 100% certainty that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-

Send Flash next time please!


this was actually pretty close and with some better decisions (and without the micro fails) Zest could have won.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1248
On January 05 2014 21:28 Destructicon wrote:
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On January 05 2014 21:27 Adreme wrote:
Zest is like "hmmm im getting back in this let me lose all my stalkers to barely kill one bunker and no units to fix that"


Yeah, I don't think Zest executed that attack to the best of his ability. It seems a lot more punishing to blink up and down the cliffs, snipe some SCVs, depos and army and then blink out. Overpowering a bunker works only when you get critical mass.


Yep very true

On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote:
OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if the opponent knows with 100% certainty that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-

Send Flash next time please!


Ohana and soultrains say hi xD Imo blink allins on Yeonsu are actually THAT ridicolous and zest just fucked up his execution horribly...and still it was kind of close
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1249
well in conclusion.

WELCOME BACK JANUARY TO KT, GOD OF TROLL LINE UPS

WOOT
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1250
On January 05 2014 21:29 Kasaraki wrote:
I'm glad Jin Air coach wised up and realised he should play Maru as ace.

sOs pick last week was fine, since maru's TvZ is not his best. but against KT, with no viable zerg, maru is your man.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1251
ok Zest, you have betrayed me. Say good bye from my Fantasy team.
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1252
gah kt coach...
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1253
On January 05 2014 21:29 Zealously wrote:
Yayaya get on with it I want to see Roro's team lose


Oh, Zealously. You are always entertaining when it comes to Life and your absolute favorite RoRo
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18613 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1254
On January 05 2014 21:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 21:27 sharkie wrote:
that was a pretty bad match from KT, only Baby looked good.

TY is good. When i do not see him. Swear by god, the only match i have seen of his was the one where he got killed by N probe rush from WJS (RIP) Aria (gl).


yeah Baby is a very good player who has a lot of potential, but so inconsistent ..
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44240 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1255
the only one that went wrong today was that KT lost ..

everything is so good for FPL today .. flash winning, maru winning twice , TY winning once <3
this is a quote
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1256
On January 05 2014 21:29 VmY wrote:
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On January 05 2014 21:28 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 05 2014 21:27 VmY wrote:
It warms my heart to see protoss get destroyed.

I´m sorry protoss players <3


I cannot stress this enough! I feel the same!

(Did I mention my last ladder session againt toss went badly? )


Last session, and the one before that...and the one before that!


We are all TvP noobs lol I'm 0-3 vs protoss in my last ladder run.
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1257
Damn it Zest, KT was supposed to win this. Disappointed.

On the other hand, Maru continues to be highly entertaining in his stomping of Protoss.

On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote:
OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if the opponent knows with 100% certainty that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-

Send Flash next time please!

Hopefully after this game, blink on Yeonsu will be seen less. In fact, it should have become much more rare after TY's dismantling of herO on Yeonsu.
Flash | Mvp
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
January 05 2014 12:30 GMT
#1258
Terran all-kill. Nerf please
Hello
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
January 05 2014 12:31 GMT
#1259
Terran goes 5-0 in this match.
Long live the King of Wings
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 12:31:33
January 05 2014 12:31 GMT
#1260
On January 05 2014 21:28 THM wrote:
OMG, I cannot believe what a retarded decision that was. Send a protoss on that map to do the SINGLE MOST PREDICTABLE build in the history of the game. No build is that strong that it will win if you know 100% surely that it's coming, the opponent will always just prepare for that and win, and that was exactly what happened. I cannot believe the stupidity -.-

Send Flash next time please!


Actually, Zest played that badly, had he done what Rain did, which is blink into the main, chip away at the SCVs and army and then overpower it when it is weak, then he would have won, but instead he decided to go for the front, which was fortified by bunkers, and didn't even FF them off properly, allowing them to hold for far too long. And even so he nearly won. So chill, that wasn't stupid, it wasn't Maru winning the game, it was Zest trowing it.
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