EPTOn December 02 2013 09:12 Grackaroni wrote:
He gave more reasoning for Thrawn being mafia then he did for Risen.
I disagree with this. What reasoning does he give for thrawn?He gave more reasoning for Thrawn being mafia then he did for Risen.
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austinmcc
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Yet apart from holyflare, who is getting no traction on coag, nobody is really pushing to lynch those two. I don't think that makes sense. | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:14 austinmcc wrote: I disagree with this. What reasoning does he give for thrawn? There isn't a lot but he doesn't give any reasoning at all on RIsen lol. On November 26 2013 02:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Thrawn calls grack scum, and risen town. Why the fuck isn't he trying at all to disband this lynch? He knows he's next in line, too. On November 26 2013 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Anyone still accusing grack of being scum is mafia btw. On November 26 2013 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I thought his post entering into today was terrible. The BC stuff in his filter, I looked at it briefly but not intently, didn't seem like anything substantial that isn't out of the realm of normal scum interaction / bussing. I'm actually more curious what Mocsta said about thrawn, if anything. Brb filter On November 26 2013 05:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I feel like BC soft pushes the Thrawn slot for almost no reason. "He lurks, maybe scum" but always wants to lynch 2-3 people more than him. | ||
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Pandain
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On December 02 2013 09:15 austinmcc wrote: If both are scum then scum would have been setting up one or both of onegu and coag as mislynches. Yet apart from holyflare, who is getting no traction on coag, nobody is really pushing to lynch those two. I don't think that makes sense. Two scum up for lynch what do they do. Bus one gain credit is best they can do. Say oh that means other is town. Better than anything else they could without all revealing themselves as obv scum by trying to stop both. Also both curiously were hesitant to vote the other and then both inexplicably, despite both certain to vote onegu, now vote each other rather than campaign for onegu | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:21 Holyflare wrote: Who?Would much rather get rid of some of the riff-raff lurkery scummy people though. Coag on pg 8 of filter Onegu on pg 9 Hopeless 6. Wtf. I thought he'd posted more than that, but i've just been liking his posts so have not kept track well. Cheese on 10 after this burst of activity. LM 4, but also has some logs. I don't think Cheese is very "non-lurkery", since so much of his activity is JUST recent and is rampant speculation about something that nobody thought would happennnnn. | ||
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Holyflare
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LM just made an entire fricking case on Oats and then followed your vote.......... Onegu has contributed nothing for 5 days until only today really. Hopeless is...................... I would lynch him too, me and mig were saying reasons for his lynch in mason chat Cheese, not for me. Coag - would like but nobody wants t | ||
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Pandain
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I don't understand why he's just offering possibilities and hoping we clatch on rather then offering who he thinks is scum. Seems a weird priority he has | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:24 Holyflare wrote: He made a giant game plan for risen town. His game plan for scumRisen is Like he literally made a game plan on both scenario's and is following it to the letter and people are calling it scummy? 3) In the event Risen flips Mafia. Only two mafia left! Read that. His game plan for scum risen is to look at some stuff that we can already look at. Likes Koshi.We gain a ton of information about the Day 4 and Day 3 lynches. Look at who were voting BC/Thrawn/Risen. Who was NOT voting these people and shying away from them. I think Koshi really fits the bill here, pulling the Risen lynch onto Rayn. For Day 4, mafia were probably bussing Risen because he was the unanimous lynch. Switching onto Thrawn last minute is a good way to gain towncred by swing voting a mafia (See: Nomination, I lead a lynch on scum away from scum VE, gain all the towncred, lose game cus can't kill people at night). In this case, the associations and voting patterns get a bit harder to decipher, as both candidates were mafia. I'd be looking at people who either didn't care about the lynch target, or were trying to actively call Risen town by virtue of Thrawn being mafia. This lynch gains scum Risen towncred and the ones who lynched Risen towncred. It's hazy, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. BUT LOOK AT THIS PLAN. IT AIN'T A PLAN. HE SPECULATES ON ALIGNMENTS RELATIVE TO TOWN RISEN BUT NEVER TO SCUM RISEN. IN FACT, HE SAYS "we'll cross that bridge when we come to it" FOR SCUM RISEN. WHY SPECULATE ON TOWN RISEN BUT NOT FOR SCUM RISEN? WHY WAIT TO SEE A FLIP FOR SCUM RISEN? Furthermore, why does he think oats is mafia? He had oats as town, oats as town, oats as town, then oats as scum because of the RB (but that requires a town BC). Then he wants to look into thrawn/oats/koshi after killing risen. WHY!? WHY DOES HE WANT TO KILL OATS? CAN YOU FIND IT? WHY DID HE CHANGE FROM TOWNOATS TO SCUMOATS? IN FACT, HE EVEN SAYS HE WANTS OATS TO BE TOWN RIGHT AFTER THAT. THIS IS THE ONLY TIME HE EVER SAYS OATS IS MAFIA On November 26 2013 11:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Hmm I now think Oats might be scum. Fuck that previous townread, this comment is so much BS because I haven't seen a single person try to lynch me. Don't try to buddy up to me in hopes you'll ride out to lylo based on my initial townread of you. AND LOOK AT HIS TWO "READS IF RISEN IS TOWN POSTS"+ Show Spoiler + On November 26 2013 10:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Mig Onegu Koshi Coagulation Hopeless1der Grackaroni Pandain VayneAuthority austinmcc Risen Mr. Cheesecake Holyflare LoneMeow Alakaslam Oatsmaster I'm looking at this if Risen is indeed town. On November 26 2013 14:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: 2) In the event Risen flips Town. Follow this List. I believe it to be correct. Mig ---> Claims 2-shot vigi, seems legit. Very plausible town. Coagulation ---> Voted Thrawn, if scum would have killed town Risen. Hopeless1der ---> Both BC and Mocsta were scummy on him. Voted Thrawn. Grackaroni ---> All 3 scum have pushed him super hard. Could be universal bussing, but likely town. Voted Thrawn. austinmcc ---> began Thrawn wagon of justice, leading lynch onto scum away from town. Mr. Cheesecake---> I'm town bitches. Holyflare ---> Voted Thrawn. Seemed townie to me early on. LoneMeow ---> Mason. 3 mafia masons? Voted Thrawn last hour when could have killed Risen ez. Alakaslam ---> Voted Thrawn. Called mafia by Thrawn I think. Least townie of town. Onegu ---> Voted Risen, ??? What has he done this game I don't remember. Koshi ---> Led lynch onto Town Rayn, leading away from Town Risen, no big deal. Didn't vote thrawn. Oatsmaster ---> Scummy in his own right. Declined to vote, not modkilled. Pandain --> Towniest of the reds. Both scum voted him end of D3. Bus tactics? didn't kill thrawn. was he the vet claim? VayneAuthority ---> Claims mad hatter, but no proofs of explody bombs. Didnt vote thrawn, but didnt vote Risen either. WHY THE BALLS WOULD MAFIA NOT VOTE IN THE THRAWN LYNCH? WHY DOES CC CALL HIS OLD TOWNREAD SCUM FOR NOT VOTING? SCUM REALLY REALLY REALLY NEEDED TO VOTE THERE? IT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE HE'S JUST TRYING TO FIND REASONS TO UNDO OLD TOWNREEEEEEADS. | ||
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Holyflare
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On December 02 2013 09:30 Pandain wrote: Maybe it's CC, oats, and holy I don't understand why he's just offering possibilities and hoping we clatch on rather then offering who he thinks is scum. Seems a weird priority he has You get to lylo and have slam/lm/coag/hopeless etc by your side and gl with that /flipcoin | ||
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austinmcc
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CC's scumreads in that post are just calling people scum, while not doing the research to see if he thinks their play and posts are scummy. He's just cherry picking votes or not votes or single pushes, highlighting a single thing or saying he can't remember a single thing. | ||
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On November 26 2013 10:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Mig Onegu Koshi Coagulation Hopeless1der Grackaroni Pandain VayneAuthority austinmcc Risen Mr. Cheesecake Holyflare LoneMeow Alakaslam Oatsmaster I'm looking at this if Risen is indeed town. He lists the people he wants to kill if risen is town, he said his battery is running out and the only other wagon that isn't him that is on that list is oats. Why are you pushing it as a scum agenda? | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:36 Holyflare wrote: Did you read his reasoning?I'm not sure if you're blinded by tunnel vision austin but he quite clearly states who he wants to lynch if risen is town: He lists the people he wants to kill if risen is town, he said his battery is running out and the only other wagon that isn't him that is on that list is oats. Why are you pushing it as a scum agenda? Why does he want to lynch oats? Why does he want to lynch ANY of those people? Do you feel comfortable saying he put in a bunch of work to make those posts? | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:37 Holyflare wrote: Nonononono. I will stick by this 100000000%.Please stop using that logic as a scum motive when you are defending others who use no logic at all? Using NO LOGIC AT ALL puts the spotlight on you. It's scummy. It's a curious thing to do, it's in your filter, people will find it, they will call you on it. Scum DO NOT WANT TO LOOK SCUMMY. Lazy scum, active scum, scum don't want to look scummy. Oftentimes, they will try to give some kind of justification for their reads. Look at thrawn. Thrawn ATTEMPTED to give reasoning for his BC swap. He did not want to vote BC for no reason whatsoever. So he says he's concerned about the Mig thing, asks some questions. But he doesn't wait for answers, and therefore, his justification for the vote was pewp and made up. Having a pewp and made up justification is FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR worse than having no justification, because it shows you realize no justification is scummy looking, don't want to look scummy, try to find a reason, but you can't actually find a good reason. | ||
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