TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 368

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Pandain
11-26-2013
07:39 PM ET (US)
Oh lol I was just upset I had no one to talk to
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Grackaroni
11-26-2013
02:26 PM ET (US)
you're making me wifom myself right now lol. That makes so much sense as you bitching at your scumbuddy for getting lynched but at the same time you could never be that careless as scum.
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Grackaroni
11-26-2013
02:23 PM ET (US)
Pandain
11-26-2013
01:25 AM ET (US)
Way to die on me
That is such a strange reaction to a mafia lynch lol. I'm just assuming right now you would have to have edited that out if you were scum.
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Pandain
11-26-2013
02:02 PM ET (US)
goood point
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Grackaroni
11-26-2013
11:15 AM ET (US)
You should post your mason logs with Thrawn. There has to be some useful stuff in there.
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Grackaroni
11-26-2013
10:52 AM ET (US)
I should probably go write out my points on Oats while I still can. Haven't gotten around to looking at the interactions between Thrawn and Oats.
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Grackaroni
11-26-2013
10:26 AM ET (US)
Wow lots of talking going on all of a sudden.
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Pandain
11-26-2013
01:26 AM ET (US)
If Austin is town this game is guaranteed won
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Pandain
11-25-2013
11:39 PM ET (US)
yeah it is lol
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
08:37 PM ET (US)
lol this game is finished.
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
05:13 PM ET (US)
I don't see any reasonable explanation for his BC vote... He had him as townie all game long and then just randomly votes him when it is clear that BC is lynched.
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Pandain
11-25-2013
04:21 PM ET (US)
I'll take possible justification over no justification any day; I do think they are both scum though
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Pandain
11-25-2013
04:19 PM ET (US)
I would but I want a risen lynch I think he's scummier then thrawn.

I've never played with thrawn and I could see him being dumb; there's absolutely no justification for risen and we need to lynch him now
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
03:24 PM ET (US)
Thrawn might actually be even scummier than Risen. Can you post his mason logs in thread?
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Pandain
11-25-2013
04:40 AM ET (US)
Risen.
In pulling an all nighter to do a research paper
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
04:35 AM ET (US)
I should probably go to sleep.
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
04:31 AM ET (US)
overestimating who?
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Pandain
11-25-2013
04:30 AM ET (US)
He better not.
We both know either Risen is scum or we are way way way way way way way overestimating him in making choices.
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
04:26 AM ET (US)
I have a feeling Vayne could end up lynched just like Rayn was yesterday.
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Pandain
11-25-2013
04:23 AM ET (US)
still useless.

Because then it's trackers tracking trackers
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
04:21 AM ET (US)
Unless there's like a whole bunch of them we don't know about.
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Pandain
11-25-2013
04:18 AM ET (US)
do you realize how much trackers suck in this game btw. Like they do almost nothing
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Pandain
11-25-2013
04:17 AM ET (US)
LOL
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
04:14 AM ET (US)
I was thinking he would claim veteran to be honest.
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Pandain
11-25-2013
04:13 AM ET (US)
I was really confident about it
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
04:11 AM ET (US)
I will teach him a thing or two about how to drop a proper bombshell.
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
04:10 AM ET (US)
haha your thing was way better.
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
03:59 AM ET (US)
that actually sounds probable.
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Grackaroni
11-25-2013
03:58 AM ET (US)
lol oh god.
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Pandain
11-25-2013
03:57 AM ET (US)
inb4 tracker and had tracked rayn who was nosy neighbor
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Pandain
11-24-2013
11:45 PM ET (US)
yeah and he's very hesistant about it.

like in white flag, he bussed without directly pushing
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
10:41 PM ET (US)
Oats still seems to be acting too reasonably in my opinion lol.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
10:39 PM ET (US)
By that I am referring to the "I make scummy comments to attract attention to catch the scum"
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
10:38 PM ET (US)
What do you think about Thrawn's comment? The only other time I can remember somebody saying that was Chairman Ray in Thug Life and he was scum.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
10:38 PM ET (US)
I'm not overly worried about Koshi.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
09:04 PM ET (US)
So yeah I think Koshi is town and I would have to be convinced otherwise even though he's afk.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
08:55 PM ET (US)
haha I could only hope so
I was pretty sure you were town in Hogwarts.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
08:49 PM ET (US)
Also I was thinking that if you're ever scum, I'm going to be played so hard by you that game.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
08:49 PM ET (US)
I feel like we work extremely well together
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Pandain
11-24-2013
08:16 PM ET (US)
I agree with that, and also he acknowledged that his Mocsta's interactions with him were weird, which I don't think scum would ever admit.

Those two lead to a soft town read for me.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
08:10 PM ET (US)
I'm reading through the Hogwarts mafia QT right now. (lol I can't believe some people actually suggested killing me there) He doesn't seem quite as nervous as I had expected him to be but I still just can't see him masoning veterans as scum.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
08:01 PM ET (US)
Yeah it would surprise me if LM turned out to be mafia, not that it's impossible.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
07:49 PM ET (US)
I wanted to find out if he was scum but it quickly backfired because he didn't want to talk to a "scum"
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
07:47 PM ET (US)
Why did you mason Hopeless anyway?
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
07:44 PM ET (US)
Do you agree that Lonemeow is likely town?
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
07:32 PM ET (US)
Hopeless actually looks pretty bad. He's complaining about people just blindly following SS but he hasn't give any reasoning at all for Risen being town.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
07:26 PM ET (US)
Koshi I still think is town, there's not much to do tbh
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Pandain
11-24-2013
07:26 PM ET (US)
Just trying to say why risen is not scummy. Bad job at it.
Saying Vayne is scum
Think he's scum

What do you think about hopeless
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
07:13 PM ET (US)
Also Koshi said his depression was over and he's still doing nothing.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
07:13 PM ET (US)
I can't understand anything Alakaslam says anymore lol
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
07:08 PM ET (US)
What's he doing in your mason chat?
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Pandain
11-24-2013
06:42 PM ET (US)
thrawn looking awful in mason chat.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
02:33 PM ET (US)
I'm not going to bother with oats until night. Risen is just trying to WIFOM us out of lynching him. No way he is town.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
02:46 AM ET (US)
I'm going to ask Marv.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
02:43 AM ET (US)
Nah SS had an extra night life because he was pardoner. Maybe scum RB SS and that prevents RB? I'm not really sure if that's how it works.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
02:42 AM ET (US)
I actually don't want to switch to Coag, more confident in Risen.

Waiting for Mig to help shed light as well.

I think, also, SS probably blocked mafia, so it makes sense if one of his top three reads were the ones he blocked. So another reason why Coag(maybe Thrawn, less sure on him) might be mafia.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
02:40 AM ET (US)
He loves Rayn lol. And he takes mafia very seriously.
I could definitely see all 3 of those people being scum.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
02:36 AM ET (US)
I think he will lol
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Pandain
11-24-2013
02:36 AM ET (US)
I could see Risen/Oats/Coag SO easily right now.

Same feeling I got when I thought Bereft/Asinine
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
02:33 AM ET (US)
I don't think Koshi is going to come back this game and sadly I think he is town lol
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
02:22 AM ET (US)
Yeah I'm pretty sure Mocsta slipped his alignment earlier lol.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
02:20 AM ET (US)
He's still town in my eyes.
He's doing what I do a lot and rely on single posts to determine alignment because it's so much easier. He was wrong and doesn't want to admit it.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
02:17 AM ET (US)
wow vayne is really putting himself out on a limb to defend Risen.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
02:01 AM ET (US)
"you think I don't believe you aren't just as hopeless if you are town. Since when is asking questions scummy. If I'm not in here prodding discussion the thread is dead silent. If I was on a team with Vayne (or Oats for that matter) then he wouldn't have sheeped your reasoning on me being scum based on my vote because it was going to kill me if Pandain hadn't come in and stopped the wagon.

If you had any idea of my Meta at all you would see that I don't have the balls to argue back and forth with people in the manner that I've done this game as scum and I certainly wouldn't claim a role in order to flush out the non-existant SK or risk getting counter-claimed for no benefit.

I don't like being in LYLO. It's stressful that's why I try to get myself killed off. I am going to do everything I can to make sure that I am not endgamed for the second game in a row."
I'm proud of that one lol. Anyway back to the game.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:58 AM ET (US)
The fake emotion was when I was like "Oh god LYLO SO STRESSFUL!!! wtf do I do???" I kind of want to dig up that post now lol it was pretty solid. It's what convinced Oatsmaster that I had to be town.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:57 AM ET (US)
Mig can probably get a good feel for his alignment.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:49 AM ET (US)
oh that wasn't fake. i felt like shit because I was playing so well and then I accidentally switched the time stamps to my scum role pm and then everybody just said I was mod confirmed town. Then I was getting comments from Koshi saying "Grack would have to be a total asshole to pull that as scum so he must be town." I really wanted to win that game because the only other time I played scum was 2 years ago and I got shit on lol. I had afk teammates so I just lurked. Except Syllogism would call me Mafia for lurking and I popped in constantly with posts like "no wait! I'm just really busy! not mafia!. Syllogism "you don't really seem busy... you always pop in the thread 20 minutes after your name shows up"
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:46 AM ET (US)
do u like my "O god mason mig he's better"
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:45 AM ET (US)
That's why I thought you were town LOL
"who would claim and then UNCLAIM"
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:44 AM ET (US)
lol
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:44 AM ET (US)
Yeah I know ;(
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:44 AM ET (US)
I guess. I've faked emotions before as scum lol.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:43 AM ET (US)
I never had a scum read on him, and that's rare because I usually do on everyone.

Also, he openly claimed that Rayn made him feel bad , not want to read the thread, made his opinions not feel appreciated. That's more a town thing then a scum thing. And while it isn't definitive, town emotions are harder to display then scum emotions.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:41 AM ET (US)
I don't know if you can just write people off as town for complaining about Rayn shitting up the thread. That could be a legitimate excuse for being afk and it could also just be a fake reason not to post. Supersoft already cleared the way for people to complain about Rayn ruining the thread. Did you have anything definitive for Alakaslam being town? I'm null on him.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:29 AM ET (US)
Yeah I can agree with that; we absolutely need to lynch scum today. Scum will lose if we lynch one more of them but we are also pretty close to becoming really inactive. I feel like if me and Mig are shot that town is going to lose. And we will probably both be shot tomorrow if we don't hit scum since you and Austin are both supposedly veterans.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:25 AM ET (US)
In fact, we should hassle people who make dumb arguments instead of just sighing and letting them be and call them worse.

Like I'm going to push hopeless I think just to see where he goes with his argument.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:25 AM ET (US)
This game has taught me that there's not a thing like too dumb argument to be scum.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:22 AM ET (US)
To be fair, it's not dumb. Because like SS said, if we lynch scum today which we should, they're down to 1 kp, and I'm a vet and there's an okay chance there's another town doctor.

They have to plant suspicion NOW.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:21 AM ET (US)
No. I don't think so.

But it's hard to fake effort as scum. You surely know this. Like all of Austin's posts are like essay-long diatribes.

I don't think I can explain it, but his effort would be less passionate, he would have given up a lot, he wouldn't have pushed Vayne like this.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. But he can't be THIS active can he.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:20 AM ET (US)
I have a feeling Austin is actually really good at playing scum. Targeting Vayne does seem really dumb though. Especially if he needs somebody to lynch to save Risen or Coag.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:19 AM ET (US)
Austin would be less active as scum?
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:17 AM ET (US)
Actually I think Austin is town. I can't see him being scum in this. Like the thread would feel different.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:11 AM ET (US)
Actually it doesn't really matter, if anything it'll be interesting to see how scum reacts if there are two scum lynches up for it
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:11 AM ET (US)
Ok I completely agree with you on Oats, but I do think though that Risen and Coag are better lynches. I'm going to look through Oat's filter tomorrow, I want to watch Scarlett-Bomber which I missed as I go to bed.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:09 AM ET (US)
I agree he is scum. He was actively lurking the thread and then admitted it. When I brought it up again he started yelling that his power was out and he just created a shit load of chaos at the end of the day.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:05 AM ET (US)
lol who cares what Coag says.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
01:04 AM ET (US)
SS argued that Oats being RB was the reason for a missing kill. BC would have known that Oats was going to be RB from SS so that is probably not why. I think it is because BC just assumed Blazinghand was a tracker and hit the assassin.

It's not even meta really. I like to look at who I think mafia should be trying to kill in a situation and the thread as a whole. In white Flag I singled out the fact that nobody latched on to my Oatsmaster points at all as a reason for why the main case (Hzflank) was extremely unlikely to be mafia. Some mafia absolutely had to have agreed with me on Oats or pushed hard for another person if Hzflank was actually mafia.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:01 AM ET (US)
like if I mislynch him, he'll think I'm a worse player.

Don't know why I have to justify myself to him guess I'm dumb
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Pandain
11-24-2013
01:00 AM ET (US)
Just so you know I also think Coag is scummy scummer.

He's been sooo useless.

I'm afraid he might be town because his signature is openly mocking me .
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Pandain
11-24-2013
12:59 AM ET (US)
You have good points on Oats. It's meta but good.

So Oats had gotten RB'd? Did that do anything
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Pandain
11-24-2013
12:56 AM ET (US)
Not the Vayne part. Vayne is town. And I haven't looked into Onegu.

But rayne, yes
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Pandain
11-24-2013
12:54 AM ET (US)
I think Alakslam is town, that post is so genuine and described my thoughts perfectly.

I looked through Thrawn. And I'm somewhat conflicted because like his first two days were SO good. Like he was actively talking with BC a lot and that would just be strange to me. I think he's definitely not a lynch for today. But I want to see how he responds to my post
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
12:45 AM ET (US)
Definitely not a plus there are so many people who just don't give a shit and they can't all be scum.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
12:45 AM ET (US)
yeah kp is # of mafia / 2 rounded down.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
12:44 AM ET (US)
Scum had 2kp, right?
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Pandain
11-24-2013
12:40 AM ET (US)
That's why I was suspicious of Austin. The thing against him however is he is literally putting in so much effort.

I probably would have switched to Risen had I been around, but honestly with Rayn gone, even though he's town, I still feel like it was a plus. He's the person who pretty much made me not want to read day three
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
12:37 AM ET (US)
I should probably take a closer look at Austin. His arguments for Vayne being scum are really bad and he did kill Rayne in the very last second. I still can't believe you voted for Rayne...
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
12:32 AM ET (US)
I know what you mean. Now with a BC flip we should be able to solve this game without too much trouble.
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Pandain
11-24-2013
12:27 AM ET (US)
I'll be back getting food from a nearby mart, will be on phone.

I'm analyzing Thrawn and then I'll get right on Oats. Honestly I've not been keeping up with this thread too much . Trying to get into it now that it's more managable with less people.
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Grackaroni
11-24-2013
12:23 AM ET (US)
Do you see what I mean? If Oats is town it would make so much more sense for BC to try to kill him than to go after me again.
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
11:31 PM ET (US)
I'm thinking BC just shot at Blazinghand considering he just assumed my mason claim was true.
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
11:30 PM ET (US)
BC was masoned with SS the day before and knew that Oats was going to be pushed for being RB. I would think he would try to push that case forward more seeing as he was pushing me purely for being useless.
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
11:26 PM ET (US)
no to following SS case. I will write my own case if he stays under the radar today. Mostly want to watch what he does for now.
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
11:25 PM ET (US)
no it's mostly just from looking at BC's filter. Also there was that one post where he said Mocsta was doing scummy things and then ended the post with a null read on Mocsta. Aside from that he's just been completely unnoticeable as of late, which is not something I relate with town Oats.
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Pandain
11-23-2013
11:17 PM ET (US)
Do u have a good case of oats somewhere or are you going by super softs case
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
11:13 PM ET (US)
What do you think of Oats? He's probably going to be my lynch today.
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
10:23 PM ET (US)
wait nvm. I thought you were arguing against Risen being scum in that post for some reason.
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
10:10 PM ET (US)
Wait what. In white flag you were arguing that nobody ever asks to be vigged as town.
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Pandain
11-23-2013
10:05 PM ET (US)
That would be awesome

I'm going to go over thrawn before today and see if he is as scummy as he was before now because I had him as town before


I'll go over risen. But he was like so martyr y and I never can see risen behaving like that as town. Like if he's town it's never certain that you are scum unless you are super unlucky and pardon scum then are role checked as mafia.

I think both are good things
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
08:54 PM ET (US)
I think I'm just going to treat you like confirmed town so that if you are town we can just wipe out the game.
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
08:41 PM ET (US)
What did you think of Risen's night time posts?
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
08:39 PM ET (US)
I agree that looks terrible.
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Pandain
11-23-2013
08:36 PM ET (US)
that thrawn post is like so mafia
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Pandain
11-23-2013
08:26 PM ET (US)
I luv u
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Grackaroni
11-23-2013
08:24 PM ET (US)
it took 4 days in a game with like 100 masons to get masoned but it finally happened lol.
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marvellosity
11-23-2013
08:22 PM ET (US)
Pandain and Grackaroni mason Day 4/Night 4
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