EPTIt does seem like a weird thing to do as scum >.<
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Clarity_nl
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It does seem like a weird thing to do as scum >.< Never easy | ||
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Dirkzor
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Clarity_nl
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Like, I'm trying to imagine if marv was the nk how fucking lost I would be this game because Oats would still be around. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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Gonna step away for a bit | ||
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Dirkzor
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Clarity_nl
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I'll feel really bad if I end up being wrong | ||
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Dirkzor
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Dirkzor
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On October 09 2013 01:08 Holyflare wrote: You may have the traits of a towny but there is always that lingering suspicious nature about you. You were SO SURE about sloosh that when people (oats, risen, dirk etc.) were doing extra scum hunting that you thought it was funny and wouldn't participate. You effectively did not participate in an entire day because you "thought the game was solved". Here we are day 3, and the same scenario is coming down. The only reason that oats could be killed was to add further speculation about dirkzor making a desperation move, pretty simple play to make if you think about it coming from you it lets you sit back for an entire day again and not have to do anything but vote for dirkzor. This means that you don't have to do even more extra scum hunting compared to if you left oats alive. Oats was looking for scum, even through the trolling, he was pretty much the only one looking. Now, you can conveniently eliminate another day and as you've painted risen as your next target I presume he will be your choice for the day after. Everytime someone so much as mentions the word marv and scum in a sentence you flip out about how you are "the most town, and have progressed us through most of the game". Now, I'm not saying you are scum, I'm not saying you aren't. Of course I will filter dive you and see whether these feels are baseless or not. This is just a theory after all. This made me raise my eyebrows because it was exactly what I was fishing after... | ||
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Clarity_nl
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If he was scum he had the oats + dirk/risen mislynches lined up. Why nk oats? Out of everyone I expect marv to do that the least | ||
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Dirkzor
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Clarity_nl
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On October 10 2013 00:04 Dirkzor wrote: Oats was a potential mislynch for everyone. So I'm trying to disregard the Oats NK because i really don't know what to read into it... I understand that it's a bad nk for anyone to make. But it makes the least sense for marv, and then second least for holy as marv pointed out :D | ||
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Clarity_nl
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Yeah. Like I said will reread a bit later and see. | ||
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Holyflare
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This game confuses the shit out of me but I'll post the abridged version on dirk for now and then look up risen a bit more: You guys really believe this? On October 09 2013 22:20 Dirkzor wrote: Fuck it... I don't think Marv is scum. I kinda did a little bit yesterday but mostly it was to see who followed me there to catch the last scum. Scum wan't to get of marv, right? So whoever sheeped me had to be scum... Yesterday didn't bother me much, but today it is kinda getting to me all that shitcalling from marv. Didn't sign up to get yelled at. Don't want to wait for Risen or HF anymore. Anyway lynch me if you like... ##Unvote ##Vote Risen Think about it logically. He thinks a guy is scum, so makes a case on him, only to not think he is scum after all but then suddenly it's a trap for me and risen. If the guy who he is making a case on is arguing with him, why would he be so put down? He thinks that guy is scum, the guy whose case it's on will literally say anything to make him think he's wrong so why listen to it? If it was a trap he could literally afk and wait for someone to agree with him and then jump him. He feels disheartened because he knows marv is town and can't logically push through his case anymore. This is what marv said he does when he is scum, attacks a person but can't keep it up because he knows he is wrong. Coupled with this straight after: On October 09 2013 22:32 Dirkzor wrote: Yes I am. Look you pointed out why my push was so weird yourself. I've had a town read on you most of the game. I just ended up in a situation where everyone was town. I looked at filters and noone looked scum. So why the hell not... He thought marv was town but made a case on him anyway to lay a trap which he didn't follow through with. What's the point of that??? So what does he do now, votes risen whom he even says: On October 09 2013 22:35 Dirkzor wrote: Risen looks town because of the whole lynch D1 (that part is true). I can't believe Risen would make that big a case on his scumbuddy on 2nd part of day 1 when lynch wasn't decided. That combined with his voteswitches D1. Marv looks town just in general. Only minor things that he looks scum for is his disappearence D1 lynch and the way he acted out D2. I had similar thoughts D2 so I couldn't really say either way. Look, I'm all for finding scum but this oats night kill kinda screws with everything. However, everyone has already theorised about the oats kill and the only player that it can potentially make sense from is Dirk. Risen was all over oats, everyone was finding oats scummy, he could have literally as everyone has already said, ride the dirk/oats train to victory. So, why on earth would he kill oats? It doesn't make logical sense in this scenario (other than killing him because he got on his nerves). | ||
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marvellosity
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On October 09 2013 23:26 Clarity_nl wrote: Like, yeah the whole "I'm waiting for HF and Risen" thing makes sense now, but does that make dirk town suddenly? It does seem like a weird thing to do as scum >.< Never easy No, it doesn't make Dirk town suddenly. But it means we can HAVE the discussion, which is precisely what this game needed. Shaking up, new discussion. And at LYLO-1 rather than LYLO, which is the right time to have it. Just need everyone to participate in it :/ | ||
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marvellosity
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On October 10 2013 00:24 Holyflare wrote: I just spent like an hour reading and re-reading the last few pages and then making a case on dirkzor only to re-read rayn a bit. He makes risen look suspicious as hell. Ends up voting sloosh and says no to risen? Calls risen town all game, etc etc. This game confuses the shit out of me but I'll post the abridged version on dirk for now and then look up risen a bit more: Hey Holy. The thing is, rayn made slOosh look suspicious as hell. Has slOosh as 2nd scumread, refuses to vote him etc. And slOosh was town. So.... ick. | ||
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Holyflare
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On October 09 2013 01:32 Dirkzor wrote: Thank you. And btw Marv didn't progress anything. Bh did the rayn thing. I did sloosh (wrongly) - which you sheeped. At day 1 lynch marv didn't push anyone towards lynch time and he never committed much to anything. I was around then and he did not question me further about it, he just continued pushing you and used it as fuel for his case. Now I'm not one to play up traps but it's not really effective if you don't say AHA you just got played until your case fails is it? | ||
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Holyflare
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On October 10 2013 00:26 marvellosity wrote: Hey Holy. The thing is, rayn made slOosh look suspicious as hell. Has slOosh as 2nd scumread, refuses to vote him etc. And slOosh was town. So.... ick. He voted sloosh. Didn't want to counter wagon onto risen who was his only other option and would have prevented impending no-lynch at the time. | ||
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marvellosity
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On October 10 2013 00:31 Holyflare wrote: He voted sloosh. Didn't want to counter wagon onto risen who was his only other option and would have prevented impending no-lynch at the time. Hmm, I was referring to earlier in the day. His vote at the end was pointless wasn't it? | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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On October 10 2013 00:32 marvellosity wrote: Hmm, I was referring to earlier in the day. His vote at the end was pointless wasn't it? Let me check. | ||
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