• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:22
CEST 06:22
KST 13:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League32Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.164Rollback Netcode in Brood War1295.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
No more sc2 streamers on team liquid? Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 Server Blocker SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
[Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Rollback Netcode in Brood War Hands of Pluto Mineral gathering rate (boosted) for each patch
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9509 users

World Heavyweight Championship mafia - Page 121

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 119 120 121 122 123 155 Next
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
October 09 2013 15:34 GMT
#2401
On October 10 2013 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
Oh also, by the way. If it was dirkzor's intention "to lay a trap"

Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 01:32 Dirkzor wrote:
On October 09 2013 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
You may have the traits of a towny but there is always that lingering suspicious nature about you. You were SO SURE about sloosh that when people (oats, risen, dirk etc.) were doing extra scum hunting that you thought it was funny and wouldn't participate. You effectively did not participate in an entire day because you "thought the game was solved". Here we are day 3, and the same scenario is coming down.

The only reason that oats could be killed was to add further speculation about dirkzor making a desperation move, pretty simple play to make if you think about it coming from you it lets you sit back for an entire day again and not have to do anything but vote for dirkzor. This means that you don't have to do even more extra scum hunting compared to if you left oats alive. Oats was looking for scum, even through the trolling, he was pretty much the only one looking. Now, you can conveniently eliminate another day and as you've painted risen as your next target I presume he will be your choice for the day after. Everytime someone so much as mentions the word marv and scum in a sentence you flip out about how you are "the most town, and have progressed us through most of the game".

Now, I'm not saying you are scum, I'm not saying you aren't. Of course I will filter dive you and see whether these feels are baseless or not. This is just a theory after all.

Thank you. And btw Marv didn't progress anything. Bh did the rayn thing. I did sloosh (wrongly) - which you sheeped.
At day 1 lynch marv didn't push anyone towards lynch time and he never committed much to anything.



I was around then and he did not question me further about it, he just continued pushing you and used it as fuel for his case. Now I'm not one to play up traps but it's not really effective if you don't say AHA you just got played until your case fails is it?

I did spot it. Why do you think I emphasized it? But your whole post was so vague that it didn't really give me much... (the bolded part)

You are right I should have stuck to my guns and waited it out. But neither you or Risen was here and I won't be around at lynch time due to me sleeping. So the clock was ticking..
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 15:35 GMT
#2402
On October 10 2013 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
However, I think it's pretty minor, just the way he talks about risen is "he's so sure town". I honestly don't think risen would make a massive case on rayn like that though, there was no actual need to bus day 1....


It's perfectly possible Risen is not mafia, but this argument is so awful, and Clarity's made it too.

If I think I can make cases on my mafiabuddy at any point in the game and they won't get lynched, I'm fucking doing it. Every. Single. Time.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 09 2013 15:36 GMT
#2403
On October 10 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
However, I think it's pretty minor, just the way he talks about risen is "he's so sure town". I honestly don't think risen would make a massive case on rayn like that though, there was no actual need to bus day 1....


It's perfectly possible Risen is not mafia, but this argument is so awful, and Clarity's made it too.

If I think I can make cases on my mafiabuddy at any point in the game and they won't get lynched, I'm fucking doing it. Every. Single. Time.


Yeh but there was no NEED for risen to switch to rayn at the time.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 15:37 GMT
#2404
On October 10 2013 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote:
On October 10 2013 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
However, I think it's pretty minor, just the way he talks about risen is "he's so sure town". I honestly don't think risen would make a massive case on rayn like that though, there was no actual need to bus day 1....


It's perfectly possible Risen is not mafia, but this argument is so awful, and Clarity's made it too.

If I think I can make cases on my mafiabuddy at any point in the game and they won't get lynched, I'm fucking doing it. Every. Single. Time.


Yeh but there was no NEED for risen to switch to rayn at the time.


Risen got his mafia award for doing something mafia had no "need" to do as well. It's precisely why he got the award in fact. Meh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 15:38 GMT
#2405
and I was referring to the case he made mostly, not the switching at the end of the day.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 09 2013 15:43 GMT
#2406
Yeh, of course you can do that. It was the interactions that risen had after he made the case that made it seem more genuine. That, coupled with his confirmation biased aggressiveness just added to my town read of him most of the game as most of his games I've seen he has been pretty similar.

I mean, sure, it would make sense to make a case on like dirkzor or something and get everybody to train back onto him but to make a case on rayn who was on the forefront of everyones minds for a lynch just didn't make sense. Especially when he could have just voted sloosh and been done with it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#2407
On October 10 2013 00:34 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
Oh also, by the way. If it was dirkzor's intention "to lay a trap"

On October 09 2013 01:32 Dirkzor wrote:
On October 09 2013 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
You may have the traits of a towny but there is always that lingering suspicious nature about you. You were SO SURE about sloosh that when people (oats, risen, dirk etc.) were doing extra scum hunting that you thought it was funny and wouldn't participate. You effectively did not participate in an entire day because you "thought the game was solved". Here we are day 3, and the same scenario is coming down.

The only reason that oats could be killed was to add further speculation about dirkzor making a desperation move, pretty simple play to make if you think about it coming from you it lets you sit back for an entire day again and not have to do anything but vote for dirkzor. This means that you don't have to do even more extra scum hunting compared to if you left oats alive. Oats was looking for scum, even through the trolling, he was pretty much the only one looking. Now, you can conveniently eliminate another day and as you've painted risen as your next target I presume he will be your choice for the day after. Everytime someone so much as mentions the word marv and scum in a sentence you flip out about how you are "the most town, and have progressed us through most of the game".

Now, I'm not saying you are scum, I'm not saying you aren't. Of course I will filter dive you and see whether these feels are baseless or not. This is just a theory after all.

Thank you. And btw Marv didn't progress anything. Bh did the rayn thing. I did sloosh (wrongly) - which you sheeped.
At day 1 lynch marv didn't push anyone towards lynch time and he never committed much to anything.



I was around then and he did not question me further about it, he just continued pushing you and used it as fuel for his case. Now I'm not one to play up traps but it's not really effective if you don't say AHA you just got played until your case fails is it?

I did spot it. Why do you think I emphasized it? But your whole post was so vague that it didn't really give me much... (the bolded part)

You are right I should have stuck to my guns and waited it out. But neither you or Risen was here and I won't be around at lynch time due to me sleeping. So the clock was ticking..


You are pointing out a post that marv asked me to post by the way, it has no relation to your post.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#2408
On October 10 2013 00:43 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh, of course you can do that. It was the interactions that risen had after he made the case that made it seem more genuine. That, coupled with his confirmation biased aggressiveness just added to my town read of him most of the game as most of his games I've seen he has been pretty similar.

I mean, sure, it would make sense to make a case on like dirkzor or something and get everybody to train back onto him but to make a case on rayn who was on the forefront of everyones minds for a lynch just didn't make sense. Especially when he could have just voted sloosh and been done with it.


Not how I remember it =/
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#2409
On October 10 2013 00:43 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh, of course you can do that. It was the interactions that risen had after he made the case that made it seem more genuine. That, coupled with his confirmation biased aggressiveness just added to my town read of him most of the game as most of his games I've seen he has been pretty similar.

I mean, sure, it would make sense to make a case on like dirkzor or something and get everybody to train back onto him but to make a case on rayn who was on the forefront of everyones minds for a lynch just didn't make sense. Especially when he could have just voted sloosh and been done with it.


this isn't true. wasn't on anyone's mind really, and his case gained zero traction.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#2410
lol hi Clarity :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#2411
AT LEAST WE BOLDED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 09 2013 15:46 GMT
#2412
:d
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
October 09 2013 15:46 GMT
#2413
Rayn wasn't on the forefront. BH found him scummy and so did I. Don't think he had any votes at all at the time. (maybe BH?) Sloosh was at the forefront at the time iirc
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 15:48 GMT
#2414
if clarity is somehow mafia, then i've thought like mafia all game. that would be so depressing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 09 2013 15:50 GMT
#2415
I meant back ~_~

There is no possible way that you could argue that how rayn was playing was not scummy. To me he was clearly the second most reasonable lynch in the game. Posts nothing but crap at the start, jumps onto someone he didn't find that scummy and then afk's on a dirkzor vote till like 20 mins at the end where he then votes sloosh over risen.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 15:50 GMT
#2416
On October 10 2013 00:50 Holyflare wrote:
I meant back ~_~

There is no possible way that you could argue that how rayn was playing was not scummy. To me he was clearly the second most reasonable lynch in the game. Posts nothing but crap at the start, jumps onto someone he didn't find that scummy and then afk's on a dirkzor vote till like 20 mins at the end where he then votes sloosh over risen.


that's all very well in hindsight, however that wasn't what the thread was like at the time, which is the point.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 09 2013 15:51 GMT
#2417
It was to me, hence why I said "the only other person I'm comfortable lynching is rayn"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 15:52 GMT
#2418
go read the thread.

/conversation
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 15:52 GMT
#2419
rayn was getting zero traction, and risen's case didn't make rayn gain traction.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 09 2013 15:53 GMT
#2420
Both me and marv expressed unwillingness to lynch rayn d1
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Prev 1 119 120 121 122 123 155 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
Continental Nation League S1
Liquipedia
BSL Open Qualifier
04:00
Pro & Gosu - Last Chance #2
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 179
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2963
GuemChi 1591
ProTech111
Aegong 60
HiyA 43
Icarus 6
League of Legends
JimRising 752
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox841
Other Games
summit1g8223
WinterStarcraft454
PiGStarcraft282
Livibee194
RuFF_SC237
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick703
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH218
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota238
League of Legends
• Scarra1191
• Rush1049
• Lourlo949
• Stunt232
Other Games
• Shiphtur665
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
6h 39m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 6h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 19h
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
FEL
5 days
FEL
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.