World Heavyweight Championship mafia - Page 118

On October 09 2013 22:35 marvellosity wrote:
your "i want to wait for risen and HF" almost makes this seem sort of plausible. this is totally outside of my comfort level as a mafia player though.

so now will you talk about Risen with me a little? You think it's possible after all that he would behave like he did around the day 1 lynch as mafia?

On October 04 2013 08:49 Blazinghand wrote:
we are going to no lynch unless we consolidate

drik 1 - rayn
rayn 2 - risen, BH
slosh 3 - dirk oats holy
risen 3 - sloosh, clair, marv
bh 1 - rayn

On October 04 2013 08:50 Blazinghand wrote:
we are going to no lynch unless we consolidate

drik 1 - rayn
rayn 1 - BH
slosh 4 - dirk oats holy, risen
risen 3 - sloosh, clair, marv
bh 1 - rayn

On October 04 2013 08:51 Blazinghand wrote:
we are going to no lynch unless we consolidate

drik 1 - rayn
rayn 2 - BH, risen
slosh 3 - dirk oats holy
risen 3 - sloosh, clair, marv
bh 1 - rayn

On October 09 2013 22:43 Dirkzor wrote:
Look after my play I need to die before lylo. If we get to lylo with me who is really going to vote against me?

Assume I'm town for now. We lynch Risen. He flip town. Scum kills Clarity/Marv/HF (depending on scum). Lylo is Dirk/marv/HF or Dirk/marv/clar or Dirk/CLar/HF. Who dies? I do.

If we lynch anyone else then Risen or me today. Lylo looks: Dirk/Risen and Marv/HF/Clar. Who dies? I do.

If you lynch me today you most likely end up with Risen at lylo. Might be better just to lynch me now and find scum at lylo?

On October 04 2013 08:52 Risen wrote:
No that's only two including me not enough

##unvote
##vote: sloosh

On October 04 2013 08:53 Risen wrote:
My phone is dying wtf last swap back I'm driving ffs

##unvote
##vote: rayn

On October 09 2013 22:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
Basically same conclusion like last time I looked at it:

This seems fair. If Risen is scum, why would he switch back to rayn after this?


There is an answer... and that was that I was shouting for a Risen lynch....

I don't know.

If I ignore the rayn lynch then risen looks much much worse, though.

On October 09 2013 22:54 Clarity_nl wrote:
Have you ever played with scum Risen, marv?
Is he comfortable bussing? Or does he avoid it?

On October 09 2013 22:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I did read the actual bit. But the impression I got from Risen was that he was only half there.
Especially since his last post is "I'm driving ffs"

On October 08 2013 16:28 Dirkzor wrote:
Just read Final D1. I don't think HF, Risen or Clarity is scum.

I'm going to establish a timeline. Start from this post: link

At this point the vote count is:
+ Show Spoiler [Slightly edited votecount from BH] +
BH votes Rayn
1 min after (same time)Risen come in to the thread and see 3 votes on him and sloosh. Votes sloosh to save himself (would do as any alignment)
Risen votes Rayn because he sees BH vote on Rayn and a possibilty to lynch his scumread.
HF votes Rayn
1 min after(again same time if on phone) Risen votes for Sloosh again with reason: "No that's only two including me not enough"
Risen votes Rayn again after seeing HF's vote.
Rayn votes sloosh
Vote count: + Show Spoiler +
Clarity votes sloosh in order to consolidate.
HF pushing rayn lynch "Confirmed town is on a rayn lynch, people should follow confirmed town." (stupid argument, but he pushes Rayn lynch and its stupid as either town or scum.)
Sloosh votes rayn (to save himself)
It's now 4-4 between Rayn and sloosh. Clarity posts: "4-4 marv you here?"
Clarity votes Rayn.
Rayn is lynched.
Marv appears.


Hf is consistent. He votes Rayn. Sticks to rayn. Pushes the rayn lynch. Not scum

Risen is to consistent but his thought fits a townperson. Starts by voting sloosh (the other wagon at the time) to save himself. Would do as either alignment. See Rayn being pushed - votes Rayn. Now why do this if they are scumbuddies? He was already on town sloosh. He sees the rayn wagon is a Tandembike and votes sloosh again to consolidate. In the mean time HF is voting rayn. Risen is "Hey rayn can get killed" and votes him. The timeline fits. I can't see why he would vote back and forth as scum when he had a good reason just to vote sloosh and be done with it. Not scum

Now there are 2 small things damning about Clarity. First, he votes sloosh instead of Rayn when consolidating. Not really that damning considering he was was voting Sloosh before Risen and at the time Rayn/sloosh was 3-3. Second thing was him asking after marv. Him not wanting to take responsibility for the lynch maybe? Wanting Marv to be the hammer? At this point, clarity could have stayed on sloosh hoping someone would hop from rayn to sloosh, but he didn't. He made the jump causing scum rayn to get lynched. All in all I'm fairly sure he is not scum.

Only way either of these 3 are scum if it was a carefully orchestrated bus. With the hectic wagon forming and lateness of it all it just seem unlikely. Risen had the best buildup to a rayn bus with his big case, but he also had the best reasons to just vote sloosh and say it was to save himself. If rayn had flipped he would still have gotten some cred for make the case.

Where was marv? No where! Marv had been super active for 2-3 hours leading up to the lynch. Just when Rayn appears marv votes Risen (with no reason what so ever, Sloosh was still in the lead and marvs biggest scumread. His Risen vote was a sheep of Sloosh (his scum read) and clarity) and marv disappear. I'm guessing to communicate and shouting at someone for being an idiot with the way they are posting as scum *hint hint*.

I wasn't at the lynch. I was sleeping. But from the people left alive now only Marv and me comes out looking bad from the lynch. Me for not being there at all. Marv for choosing not to be there and his actions leading up to the end of D1.

##Vote Marv

Just read Final D1. I don't think HF, Risen or Clarity is scum.

I'm going to establish a timeline. Start from this post: link

At this point the vote count is:
+ Show Spoiler [Slightly edited votecount from BH] +
BH votes Rayn
1 min after (same time)Risen come in to the thread and see 3 votes on him and sloosh. Votes sloosh to save himself (would do as any alignment)
Risen votes Rayn because he sees BH vote on Rayn and a possibilty to lynch his scumread.
HF votes Rayn
1 min after(again same time if on phone) Risen votes for Sloosh again with reason: "No that's only two including me not enough"
Risen votes Rayn again after seeing HF's vote.
Rayn votes sloosh
Vote count: + Show Spoiler +
Clarity votes sloosh in order to consolidate.
HF pushing rayn lynch "Confirmed town is on a rayn lynch, people should follow confirmed town." (stupid argument, but he pushes Rayn lynch and its stupid as either town or scum.)
Sloosh votes rayn (to save himself)