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On October 01 2013 12:06 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 11:58 Gahlo wrote:On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote: I don't think olaf ever was overpowered... Oh Shiky, you never fail to amuse. On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote: ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today. I've been on a nasty tear as Cait recently. Mm? I don't think we have the same definition of overpowered, I don't think Olaf ever was significantly the best champion at its role. Feel free to disagree but do not berate me for having a different opinion, especially as you obviously had nothing of importance to add. During the period of time when Olaf was like First Pick/Ban all across the pro scene he was probably a tad too strong.
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I laughed at the Garen's champion spotlight
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On October 01 2013 12:12 FinestHour wrote: i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar
Subpar compared to what? Her damage is relatively high, especially during clean up. If built tanky with a bit of damage, she has a nice combo of tanky and damage. She's also at least decent at poking if your team has some bit of a frontline. Rapel gives a lot of room to do "da plays". Like, among top lanes she's definitely no the worst at 5v5s.
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On October 01 2013 12:06 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 11:58 Gahlo wrote:On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote: I don't think olaf ever was overpowered... Oh Shiky, you never fail to amuse. On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote: ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today. I've been on a nasty tear as Cait recently. Mm? I don't think we have the same definition of overpowered, I don't think Olaf ever was significantly the best champion at its role. Feel free to disagree but do not berate me for having a different opinion, especially as you obviously had nothing of importance to add. I dunno, being first pick/ban in tournaments for months and destroying anything that looked at him funny in top lane sounds overpowered to me. I'm berating your opinion because it's dumb and you don't have anything to back it up outside of feels.
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On October 01 2013 12:23 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 12:06 Shikyo wrote:On October 01 2013 11:58 Gahlo wrote:On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote: I don't think olaf ever was overpowered... Oh Shiky, you never fail to amuse. On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote: ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today. I've been on a nasty tear as Cait recently. Mm? I don't think we have the same definition of overpowered, I don't think Olaf ever was significantly the best champion at its role. Feel free to disagree but do not berate me for having a different opinion, especially as you obviously had nothing of importance to add. I dunno, being first pick/ban in tournaments for months and destroying anything that looked at him funny in top lane sounds overpowered to me. I'm berating your opinion because it's dumb and you don't have anything to back it up outside of feels. Roffles, is that you?
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On October 01 2013 11:49 TheYango wrote:I don't even think it's good, but if it was even remotely good it'd be the most toxic build of all time--worse than AP Tryndamere. Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote: Olaf runs in at the ADC and hopes to god he catches and kills them in 6s with no movespeed buff or gapcloser. Almost guaranteed to die afterwards.
You don't play him as a teamfighter, you just play him as a split-pushing asshole akin to Tryndamere. hah, he used to be the illest teamfighter in the world. I recall multiple pros saying the reason you picked him was to obliterate in teamfights. Tragic that he's been so weak so long that he's relegated to splitpush category.
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On October 01 2013 12:09 Dark_Chill wrote: So I found out Elise is an asshole top lane. Like... a giant asshole. Her damage is kind of ridiculous, and I don't really see any downside to picking her.
Just play someone like Jayce and outscale her.
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On October 01 2013 12:21 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 12:12 FinestHour wrote: i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar Subpar compared to what? Her damage is relatively high, especially during clean up. If built tanky with a bit of damage, she has a nice combo of tanky and damage. She's also at least decent at poking if your team has some bit of a frontline. Rapel gives a lot of room to do "da plays". Like, among top lanes she's definitely no the worst at 5v5s.
its so good im sure thats why elise top was played so much in the quarter and semi finals
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Being the only one to have bkb in the game feels like he would have either been lolerskates op or terribad depending on the numbers on his other skills.
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No rengar rework
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On October 01 2013 12:41 FinestHour wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 12:21 Dark_Chill wrote:On October 01 2013 12:12 FinestHour wrote: i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar Subpar compared to what? Her damage is relatively high, especially during clean up. If built tanky with a bit of damage, she has a nice combo of tanky and damage. She's also at least decent at poking if your team has some bit of a frontline. Rapel gives a lot of room to do "da plays". Like, among top lanes she's definitely no the worst at 5v5s. its so good im sure thats why elise top was played so much in the quarter and semi finals
Shen Jax Renekton Jax Shen Renekton Renekton Jax Jax Shen Jax Zac Renekton Zac Renekton Zac Shen Rumble
These were the picks during the semi finals for top lane. I didn't know that these were the only good champions top lane in the game. Zac was only picked by Fnatic top btw, so I don't know if that means that he's less good than jax/shen/renekton. If anything, this looks way more like the players were comfortable with those picks, and played them. Saying the reason Elise top wasn't played is because she's not as good as the above picks seems less likely than those players not feeling as comfortable with top elise.
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and for the sake of fun week they should give cooldown refresh on all Garen's abilities after a kill or assist.
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So is bischu on the new NA team for real?
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On October 01 2013 12:53 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 12:41 FinestHour wrote:On October 01 2013 12:21 Dark_Chill wrote:On October 01 2013 12:12 FinestHour wrote: i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar Subpar compared to what? Her damage is relatively high, especially during clean up. If built tanky with a bit of damage, she has a nice combo of tanky and damage. She's also at least decent at poking if your team has some bit of a frontline. Rapel gives a lot of room to do "da plays". Like, among top lanes she's definitely no the worst at 5v5s. its so good im sure thats why elise top was played so much in the quarter and semi finals Shen Jax Renekton Jax Shen Renekton Renekton Jax Jax Shen Jax Zac Renekton Zac Renekton Zac Shen Rumble These were the picks during the semi finals for top lane. I didn't know that these were the only good champions top lane in the game. Zac was only picked by Fnatic top btw, so I don't know if that means that he's less good than jax/shen/renekton. If anything, this looks way more like the players were comfortable with those picks, and played them. Saying the reason Elise top wasn't played is because she's not as good as the above picks seems less likely than those players not feeling as comfortable with top elise. Or feeling that she was better spent as a pick in the jungle.
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On October 01 2013 10:36 Vegetarian Wolf wrote: Visage never had Mana.
True! My fault, I could have sworn it did. Maybe I was wanting it to or something. My bad.
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That new Garen Judgement.. its Yuri Di AAAAAA all over again.
On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote: ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.
Happens to me every time I don't play Cho/singed/galio for a while and then I just dominate when I decide to play them once or twice.
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On October 01 2013 13:03 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 12:53 Dark_Chill wrote:On October 01 2013 12:41 FinestHour wrote:On October 01 2013 12:21 Dark_Chill wrote:On October 01 2013 12:12 FinestHour wrote: i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar Subpar compared to what? Her damage is relatively high, especially during clean up. If built tanky with a bit of damage, she has a nice combo of tanky and damage. She's also at least decent at poking if your team has some bit of a frontline. Rapel gives a lot of room to do "da plays". Like, among top lanes she's definitely no the worst at 5v5s. its so good im sure thats why elise top was played so much in the quarter and semi finals Shen Jax Renekton Jax Shen Renekton Renekton Jax Jax Shen Jax Zac Renekton Zac Renekton Zac Shen Rumble These were the picks during the semi finals for top lane. I didn't know that these were the only good champions top lane in the game. Zac was only picked by Fnatic top btw, so I don't know if that means that he's less good than jax/shen/renekton. If anything, this looks way more like the players were comfortable with those picks, and played them. Saying the reason Elise top wasn't played is because she's not as good as the above picks seems less likely than those players not feeling as comfortable with top elise. Or feeling that she was better spent as a pick in the jungle.
Elise was basically picked as a jungler in almost all semi final games, with a heavier priority on Lee Sin only. Dunno what her overall pick-ban for the tournament is though, but I imagine it's pretty high.
But yeah, seems for some reason in the pro scene she's fallen out of favour in top lane. It used to be a big thing that she could go either top or jungle, now it's weird to me if it's not jungle. Not sure when that happened...
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On October 01 2013 13:20 57 Corvette wrote:That new Garen Judgement.. its Yuri Di AAAAAA all over again. Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote: ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today. Happens to me every time I don't play Cho/singed/galio for a while and then I just dominate when I decide to play them once or twice. Except lee sin. You'll always suck.
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Ugh. Not a fan of the new Garen model/animations.
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