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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 01 2013 02:33 GMT
#81
On October 01 2013 11:26 HazMat wrote:
Scarra needs to turn up his music wtf.

Damn I didn't realize he was streaming, gg me, guess I'm not studying for a while.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 01 2013 02:38 GMT
#82
On October 01 2013 11:15 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 10:08 thenexusp wrote:
On October 01 2013 09:12 JazzVortical wrote:
On October 01 2013 08:54 Ryuu314 wrote:
Dunno how viable Olaf will be, but he's always been and will continue to be a strong 1v2 option with axes. As long as he's overall stronger than nerfed Olaf I think he'll be pick-able for pro games.
On October 01 2013 08:52 Kinie wrote:
Ryze change seems potentially very strong.

Meh. Ryze still sucks. You can't take away 50 range from a champ and expect 5 movespeed to make up for it.


His itemisation also was affected, seeing as how he no longer gets damage from building Spirit Visage and Banshee's Veil.

The movespeed is a good start though.

Ryze never really wanted to get a banshee's veil, RoA is so much better. And spirit visage's 20% CDR is better for his damage anyway (unless you were already going to get a FH)


he did before his "nerfs" in 2012 where they gave him ap ratios, it was the same patch where they bugged out E so that if you stood on top of their model it would bounce infinite times lol.



That bug was thought to have been fixed and brought back like 3 times.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Takezou
Profile Joined October 2010
United States320 Posts
October 01 2013 02:39 GMT
#83
On October 01 2013 10:41 Gahlo wrote:
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On October 01 2013 10:30 Vonthin wrote:
On October 01 2013 10:24 cLutZ wrote:
Uhhg. Can't understand why they released this olaf. They are obsessed with him autoattacking... but they dont give him free movespeed.

Ghost is basically mandatory and he is no fun when its not up.


new triforce olaf, phage/zeal all the movement u need

This is the league community we're talking about here. If it can't be played the same way it was when it was overpowered then it's trash.



I really don't see how the new Olaf is any good? I really think that Riot jumped the gun with the old olaf nerfs anyway.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 01 2013 02:41 GMT
#84
Gunblade Olaf
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 02:49:57
October 01 2013 02:43 GMT
#85
Basically nerfed Q, nerfed E, nerfed W(unless autoattacking at high hp but less dmg on his skills which have always been his main source of damage), passively buffed R and not sure about the active.

I would say they just managed to nerf a 40% winrate champion. Let's see if the changes turn out to be a significant buff but I really doubt it with the inherent issues with his kit(lack of gapcloser or movespeed).

On October 01 2013 10:41 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 10:30 Vonthin wrote:
On October 01 2013 10:24 cLutZ wrote:
Uhhg. Can't understand why they released this olaf. They are obsessed with him autoattacking... but they dont give him free movespeed.

Ghost is basically mandatory and he is no fun when its not up.


new triforce olaf, phage/zeal all the movement u need

This is the league community we're talking about here. If it can't be played the same way it was when it was overpowered then it's trash.

I don't think olaf ever was overpowered...



Let's compare the teamfighting now:

Olaf runs in at the ADC and hopes to god he catches and kills them in 6s with no movespeed buff or gapcloser. Almost guaranteed to die afterwards.

Zed teleports in at the ADC from 600+ range and uses a homing secondary teleport and is able to afterwards warp to his shadow and deals significantly more damage than Olaf that is mostly AoE and almost guaranteed to kill the primary target.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#86
On October 01 2013 11:38 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:15 Slusher wrote:
On October 01 2013 10:08 thenexusp wrote:
On October 01 2013 09:12 JazzVortical wrote:
On October 01 2013 08:54 Ryuu314 wrote:
Dunno how viable Olaf will be, but he's always been and will continue to be a strong 1v2 option with axes. As long as he's overall stronger than nerfed Olaf I think he'll be pick-able for pro games.
On October 01 2013 08:52 Kinie wrote:
Ryze change seems potentially very strong.

Meh. Ryze still sucks. You can't take away 50 range from a champ and expect 5 movespeed to make up for it.


His itemisation also was affected, seeing as how he no longer gets damage from building Spirit Visage and Banshee's Veil.

The movespeed is a good start though.

Ryze never really wanted to get a banshee's veil, RoA is so much better. And spirit visage's 20% CDR is better for his damage anyway (unless you were already going to get a FH)


he did before his "nerfs" in 2012 where they gave him ap ratios, it was the same patch where they bugged out E so that if you stood on top of their model it would bounce infinite times lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE1HN7CuRLg

That bug was thought to have been fixed and brought back like 3 times.

Damn, Dynamic with Pixel/Paradoxical and 4Not being a team, takes me back.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#87
On October 01 2013 11:41 TheYango wrote:
Gunblade Olaf

LOL he said this in staff chat and I wanted to claim it as my own. Next OP Locket right here.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
October 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#88
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 02:51:53
October 01 2013 02:49 GMT
#89
I don't even think it's good, but if it was even remotely good it'd be the most toxic build of all time--worse than AP Tryndamere.

On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote:
Olaf runs in at the ADC and hopes to god he catches and kills them in 6s with no movespeed buff or gapcloser. Almost guaranteed to die afterwards.

You don't play him as a teamfighter, you just play him as a split-pushing asshole akin to Tryndamere.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 02:52:47
October 01 2013 02:51 GMT
#90
On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.

Always happens. Feel like after like 10 games on a champion your improvement rams into a brick wall and you need to play someone else(at least the case with me)

On October 01 2013 11:49 TheYango wrote:
I don't even think it's good, but if it was even remotely good it'd be the most toxic build of all time--worse than AP Tryndamere.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote:
Olaf runs in at the ADC and hopes to god he catches and kills them in 6s with no movespeed buff or gapcloser. Almost guaranteed to die afterwards.

You don't play him as a teamfighter, you just play him as a split-pushing asshole akin to Tryndamere.
That's sort of difficult when you have no good escape, I feel, but yeah that's probably the way to go.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 01 2013 02:53 GMT
#91
On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.


Every time I come back to my beloved Janna I have an amazing peel-tastic game and then I play her more and feed like a mother bird.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 01 2013 02:57 GMT
#92
On October 01 2013 11:53 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.


Every time I come back to my beloved Janna I have an amazing peel-tastic game and then I play her more and feed like a mother bird.

Lies, you feed every game.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 01 2013 02:57 GMT
#93
ill make gunblade on trynd in my next ranked game where i play him and see how it goes
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 01 2013 02:58 GMT
#94
On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote:
I don't think olaf ever was overpowered...

Oh Shiky, you never fail to amuse.

On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.

I've been on a nasty tear as Cait recently.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 01 2013 02:59 GMT
#95
On October 01 2013 11:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:53 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.


Every time I come back to my beloved Janna I have an amazing peel-tastic game and then I play her more and feed like a mother bird.

Lies, you feed every game.


This weekend we throw down and I will wreck you and your entire genetic line.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 01 2013 03:03 GMT
#96
On October 01 2013 11:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:53 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.


Every time I come back to my beloved Janna I have an amazing peel-tastic game and then I play her more and feed like a mother bird.

Lies, you feed every game.


This weekend we throw down and I will wreck you and your entire genetic line.

Pls, I'm gonna be at Worlds. Maybe Saturday.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 01 2013 03:06 GMT
#97
On October 01 2013 11:58 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote:
I don't think olaf ever was overpowered...

Oh Shiky, you never fail to amuse.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.

I've been on a nasty tear as Cait recently.

Mm? I don't think we have the same definition of overpowered, I don't think Olaf ever was significantly the best champion at its role. Feel free to disagree but do not berate me for having a different opinion, especially as you obviously had nothing of importance to add.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 01 2013 03:09 GMT
#98
So I found out Elise is an asshole top lane. Like... a giant asshole. Her damage is kind of ridiculous, and I don't really see any downside to picking her.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 01 2013 03:12 GMT
#99
On October 01 2013 12:09 Dark_Chill wrote:
So I found out Elise is an asshole top lane. Like... a giant asshole. Her damage is kind of ridiculous, and I don't really see any downside to picking her.

Pretty sure she singlehandedly brought cowl into existence.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 01 2013 03:12 GMT
#100
i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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