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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 01 2013 03:14 GMT
#101
On October 01 2013 12:06 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:58 Gahlo wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote:
I don't think olaf ever was overpowered...

Oh Shiky, you never fail to amuse.

On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.

I've been on a nasty tear as Cait recently.

Mm? I don't think we have the same definition of overpowered, I don't think Olaf ever was significantly the best champion at its role. Feel free to disagree but do not berate me for having a different opinion, especially as you obviously had nothing of importance to add.

During the period of time when Olaf was like First Pick/Ban all across the pro scene he was probably a tad too strong.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 01 2013 03:14 GMT
#102
I laughed at the Garen's champion spotlight
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 01 2013 03:21 GMT
#103
On October 01 2013 12:12 FinestHour wrote:
i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar


Subpar compared to what? Her damage is relatively high, especially during clean up. If built tanky with a bit of damage, she has a nice combo of tanky and damage. She's also at least decent at poking if your team has some bit of a frontline. Rapel gives a lot of room to do "da plays". Like, among top lanes she's definitely no the worst at 5v5s.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 03:25:16
October 01 2013 03:23 GMT
#104
On October 01 2013 12:06 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:58 Gahlo wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote:
I don't think olaf ever was overpowered...

Oh Shiky, you never fail to amuse.

On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.

I've been on a nasty tear as Cait recently.

Mm? I don't think we have the same definition of overpowered, I don't think Olaf ever was significantly the best champion at its role. Feel free to disagree but do not berate me for having a different opinion, especially as you obviously had nothing of importance to add.

I dunno, being first pick/ban in tournaments for months and destroying anything that looked at him funny in top lane sounds overpowered to me. I'm berating your opinion because it's dumb and you don't have anything to back it up outside of feels.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 01 2013 03:26 GMT
#105
On October 01 2013 12:23 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 12:06 Shikyo wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:58 Gahlo wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote:
I don't think olaf ever was overpowered...

Oh Shiky, you never fail to amuse.

On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.

I've been on a nasty tear as Cait recently.

Mm? I don't think we have the same definition of overpowered, I don't think Olaf ever was significantly the best champion at its role. Feel free to disagree but do not berate me for having a different opinion, especially as you obviously had nothing of importance to add.

I dunno, being first pick/ban in tournaments for months and destroying anything that looked at him funny in top lane sounds overpowered to me. I'm berating your opinion because it's dumb and you don't have anything to back it up outside of feels.

Roffles, is that you?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
October 01 2013 03:28 GMT
#106
Somebody said that there should be a Watch/Tazza Fanclub on TL, so I made one:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430768

Come check it out. Sign up if you think Watch is cute.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 01 2013 03:31 GMT
#107
On October 01 2013 11:49 TheYango wrote:
I don't even think it's good, but if it was even remotely good it'd be the most toxic build of all time--worse than AP Tryndamere.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote:
Olaf runs in at the ADC and hopes to god he catches and kills them in 6s with no movespeed buff or gapcloser. Almost guaranteed to die afterwards.

You don't play him as a teamfighter, you just play him as a split-pushing asshole akin to Tryndamere.

hah, he used to be the illest teamfighter in the world. I recall multiple pros saying the reason you picked him was to obliterate in teamfights. Tragic that he's been so weak so long that he's relegated to splitpush category.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 01 2013 03:36 GMT
#108
On October 01 2013 12:09 Dark_Chill wrote:
So I found out Elise is an asshole top lane. Like... a giant asshole. Her damage is kind of ridiculous, and I don't really see any downside to picking her.


Just play someone like Jayce and outscale her.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 01 2013 03:41 GMT
#109
On October 01 2013 12:21 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 12:12 FinestHour wrote:
i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar


Subpar compared to what? Her damage is relatively high, especially during clean up. If built tanky with a bit of damage, she has a nice combo of tanky and damage. She's also at least decent at poking if your team has some bit of a frontline. Rapel gives a lot of room to do "da plays". Like, among top lanes she's definitely no the worst at 5v5s.


its so good im sure thats why elise top was played so much in the quarter and semi finals
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 01 2013 03:42 GMT
#110
Being the only one to have bkb in the game feels like he would have either been lolerskates op or terribad depending on the numbers on his other skills.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
October 01 2013 03:49 GMT
#111
No rengar rework
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 01 2013 03:53 GMT
#112
On October 01 2013 12:41 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 12:21 Dark_Chill wrote:
On October 01 2013 12:12 FinestHour wrote:
i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar


Subpar compared to what? Her damage is relatively high, especially during clean up. If built tanky with a bit of damage, she has a nice combo of tanky and damage. She's also at least decent at poking if your team has some bit of a frontline. Rapel gives a lot of room to do "da plays". Like, among top lanes she's definitely no the worst at 5v5s.


its so good im sure thats why elise top was played so much in the quarter and semi finals


Shen
Jax
Renekton
Jax
Shen
Renekton
Renekton
Jax
Jax
Shen
Jax
Zac
Renekton
Zac
Renekton
Zac
Shen
Rumble

These were the picks during the semi finals for top lane. I didn't know that these were the only good champions top lane in the game. Zac was only picked by Fnatic top btw, so I don't know if that means that he's less good than jax/shen/renekton. If anything, this looks way more like the players were comfortable with those picks, and played them. Saying the reason Elise top wasn't played is because she's not as good as the above picks seems less likely than those players not feeling as comfortable with top elise.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
October 01 2013 03:58 GMT
#113
and for the sake of fun week they should give cooldown refresh on all Garen's abilities after a kill or assist.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 01 2013 04:02 GMT
#114
So is bischu on the new NA team for real?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 01 2013 04:03 GMT
#115
On October 01 2013 12:53 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 12:41 FinestHour wrote:
On October 01 2013 12:21 Dark_Chill wrote:
On October 01 2013 12:12 FinestHour wrote:
i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar


Subpar compared to what? Her damage is relatively high, especially during clean up. If built tanky with a bit of damage, she has a nice combo of tanky and damage. She's also at least decent at poking if your team has some bit of a frontline. Rapel gives a lot of room to do "da plays". Like, among top lanes she's definitely no the worst at 5v5s.


its so good im sure thats why elise top was played so much in the quarter and semi finals


Shen
Jax
Renekton
Jax
Shen
Renekton
Renekton
Jax
Jax
Shen
Jax
Zac
Renekton
Zac
Renekton
Zac
Shen
Rumble

These were the picks during the semi finals for top lane. I didn't know that these were the only good champions top lane in the game. Zac was only picked by Fnatic top btw, so I don't know if that means that he's less good than jax/shen/renekton. If anything, this looks way more like the players were comfortable with those picks, and played them. Saying the reason Elise top wasn't played is because she's not as good as the above picks seems less likely than those players not feeling as comfortable with top elise.

Or feeling that she was better spent as a pick in the jungle.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
October 01 2013 04:18 GMT
#116
On October 01 2013 10:36 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
Visage never had Mana.


True! My fault, I could have sworn it did. Maybe I was wanting it to or something. My bad.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 04:22:19
October 01 2013 04:20 GMT
#117
That new Garen Judgement.. its Yuri Di AAAAAA all over again.

On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.


Happens to me every time I don't play Cho/singed/galio for a while and then I just dominate when I decide to play them once or twice.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 01 2013 04:24 GMT
#118
On October 01 2013 13:03 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 12:53 Dark_Chill wrote:
On October 01 2013 12:41 FinestHour wrote:
On October 01 2013 12:21 Dark_Chill wrote:
On October 01 2013 12:12 FinestHour wrote:
i thought it was common knowledge that her 5v5 is subpar


Subpar compared to what? Her damage is relatively high, especially during clean up. If built tanky with a bit of damage, she has a nice combo of tanky and damage. She's also at least decent at poking if your team has some bit of a frontline. Rapel gives a lot of room to do "da plays". Like, among top lanes she's definitely no the worst at 5v5s.


its so good im sure thats why elise top was played so much in the quarter and semi finals


Shen
Jax
Renekton
Jax
Shen
Renekton
Renekton
Jax
Jax
Shen
Jax
Zac
Renekton
Zac
Renekton
Zac
Shen
Rumble

These were the picks during the semi finals for top lane. I didn't know that these were the only good champions top lane in the game. Zac was only picked by Fnatic top btw, so I don't know if that means that he's less good than jax/shen/renekton. If anything, this looks way more like the players were comfortable with those picks, and played them. Saying the reason Elise top wasn't played is because she's not as good as the above picks seems less likely than those players not feeling as comfortable with top elise.

Or feeling that she was better spent as a pick in the jungle.


Elise was basically picked as a jungler in almost all semi final games, with a heavier priority on Lee Sin only. Dunno what her overall pick-ban for the tournament is though, but I imagine it's pretty high.

But yeah, seems for some reason in the pro scene she's fallen out of favour in top lane. It used to be a big thing that she could go either top or jungle, now it's weird to me if it's not jungle. Not sure when that happened...
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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
October 01 2013 04:26 GMT
#119
On October 01 2013 13:20 57 Corvette wrote:
That new Garen Judgement.. its Yuri Di AAAAAA all over again.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.


Happens to me every time I don't play Cho/singed/galio for a while and then I just dominate when I decide to play them once or twice.

Except lee sin. You'll always suck.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 01 2013 04:32 GMT
#120
Ugh. Not a fan of the new Garen model/animations.
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