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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 01 2013 07:24 GMT
#141
He cheated against (arguably) the most popular team/brand in NA then expects to be accepted here?

People in the us are already afraid of the Korean or broader Asian dominance in league. His past just gives an easy excuse to hate.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 01 2013 07:29 GMT
#142
Yeah, I just think the level of hate is unwarranted. I mean, riot puts up a big ass screen behind the players, has a bunch of technical issues with tons of time in between just tempting anyone to take a look. It wasn't just woong that peaked at the map either, but that particular game was the only one that wasn't restarted. Tons of other people have done things just as bad, but just didn't get as much publicity about it. Dyrus essentially did the same thing when he leaked Dig's strategies.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
October 01 2013 07:44 GMT
#143
does anybody have some tips for early game leona? I seem to not be able to play a game where my ADC isn't 25% hp before I'm even able to hit lvl 2 and we just get smashed until lvl 6.

Also, am I correct in thinking going in at lvl 2 (unless the enemy is lvl 1 still) is generally not as good as going in at lvl 3? But I feel like if I don't try something at level 2 (if we even get there without being shat on) the enemy laners have no fear in poking my adc...

are people like janna/vayne/thresh (they can knock me back even if I hit E) really good counters to leona?
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 07:48:35
October 01 2013 07:47 GMT
#144
On October 01 2013 16:22 oneofthem wrote:
faker's mid carry leesin for the lol @30:00 or thereabout
http://www.twitch.tv/fbglattman/b/466419782

wtf soloq so toxic (relevant game starts @40)
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 01 2013 07:53 GMT
#145
yea I don't know if this is a popular opinion but if you don't have booths it's on the tournament organizer, especially in a situation like this where money isn't the issue.
Carrilord has arrived.
-Hitman-
Profile Joined September 2012
56 Posts
October 01 2013 07:53 GMT
#146
On October 01 2013 16:44 Complete wrote:
does anybody have some tips for early game leona? I seem to not be able to play a game where my ADC isn't 25% hp before I'm even able to hit lvl 2 and we just get smashed until lvl 6.

Also, am I correct in thinking going in at lvl 2 (unless the enemy is lvl 1 still) is generally not as good as going in at lvl 3? But I feel like if I don't try something at level 2 (if we even get there without being shat on) the enemy laners have no fear in poking my adc...

are people like janna/vayne/thresh (they can knock me back even if I hit E) really good counters to leona?



Actually in order to get leona to work well, your adc and you need to coordinate to activate the solar flare debuff on the enemy - it means you have to focus the same target - and usually that should be the enemy adc, because you loose a lot of damage if you dont activate the solar flares so switching targets is not good usually so you cannot do the target the supp switch to overextended adc as well as other teams.

I usually go when i have W up, i.e. level 3 or higher, leona becomes a real tank with W activated. also 3 solar flares activated deals alot of damage. You are a kill lane in the sense with no sustain, so bring 5 pots and keep drinking, stay at full hp so youre ready when you all-in them. First buy is for me 2 pink, 5 pots and ward or just one pink, remember your most important job as supp is to keep map vision for team (ward) and reduce enemy vision (pink ward/oracle)


Good luck.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 01 2013 07:55 GMT
#147
lol@people acting like nasus wasn't really good against yorick anyway. Someone who is supposed to dominate early game with harass vs someone who sustains harass better than nearly anyone and scales really well later on hurr hurr.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 07:59:52
October 01 2013 07:59 GMT
#148
On October 01 2013 13:55 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 13:53 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On October 01 2013 13:44 iCanada wrote:
I think GP is really strong right now.

With all the nerfs to every other top laner you just like run around and kill kids. It is awesome. He dominates like he used to way back in the day. only matchup I dont really like is Nasus, but that just because you need to kill him before like like level 3 or you just get outscaled hard.

He was sleeper strong with Shiv+Wits Zuesplank style, but right now with Shiv+Trinity he is just plain out abusive. Plus he one of the best abusers of the new Spirit Visage; just makes him sooo tanky lategame. With any sort of armor you just get like 2k eHP every time it up.

TL go abuse the GPs.

I don't think you've ever ran into pantheon


40 armor rune page OP.



That and cloth+5 and W max Panth can't touch you. You rice all day, and then just outscale him.

I mained Pantheon for ages. This matchup actually how I started to play GP.

Teach me how to GP. I really like his playstyle/character but I feel like he's really weak.

And tell me what rice means, because I've seen it in several guides but it's hard to google a food.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 08:02:27
October 01 2013 08:02 GMT
#149
rice means passive farm
Carrilord has arrived.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 01 2013 08:12 GMT
#150
I agree that the screen was there and in the past, but that's not how the internet works. Especially rabid fanboys. This was discussed regarding kpop and fans in offtopic and it applies here as well.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 01 2013 08:21 GMT
#151
On October 01 2013 10:26 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 10:24 cLutZ wrote:
Uhhg. Can't understand why they released this olaf. They are obsessed with him autoattacking... but they dont give him free movespeed.

Ghost is basically mandatory and he is no fun when its not up.


SPOOKY GHOSTS


LOL what?


On October 01 2013 10:30 Vonthin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 10:24 cLutZ wrote:
Uhhg. Can't understand why they released this olaf. They are obsessed with him autoattacking... but they dont give him free movespeed.

Ghost is basically mandatory and he is no fun when its not up.


new triforce olaf, phage/zeal all the movement u need


My Olaf binge seems to support the idea that TF is good on Olaf...the problem for me just seems to be lack of Tankiness when I build it, or lack of damage when I don't. His theoretical 4/5/6 item builds might actually be really strong, but with the active ripping off defensive steroids, its hard to say if Olaf is.

Also, it sucks to play a character that needs to build early boots 2. thats one of the reasons I never play Udyr anymore.
Freeeeeeedom
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 01 2013 08:27 GMT
#152
On October 01 2013 12:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 12:06 Shikyo wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:58 Gahlo wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote:
I don't think olaf ever was overpowered...

Oh Shiky, you never fail to amuse.

On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.

I've been on a nasty tear as Cait recently.

Mm? I don't think we have the same definition of overpowered, I don't think Olaf ever was significantly the best champion at its role. Feel free to disagree but do not berate me for having a different opinion, especially as you obviously had nothing of importance to add.

During the period of time when Olaf was like First Pick/Ban all across the pro scene he was probably a tad too strong.

He was the "best" 1v2 laner when nobody knew how to play 1v2s yet.

Whether he was actually the best 1v2 laner or was just easier given how bad people were at 1v2ing at the time is hard to say.
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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 01 2013 08:49 GMT
#153
i don't think there was ever a period where olaf was best 1v2. gp and cho are arguable, but never olaf imo. he was just outright op when he was good, not that he particularly shone at 1v2
cool beans
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 01 2013 09:12 GMT
#154
On October 01 2013 13:53 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 13:44 iCanada wrote:
I think GP is really strong right now.

With all the nerfs to every other top laner you just like run around and kill kids. It is awesome. He dominates like he used to way back in the day. only matchup I dont really like is Nasus, but that just because you need to kill him before like like level 3 or you just get outscaled hard.

He was sleeper strong with Shiv+Wits Zuesplank style, but right now with Shiv+Trinity he is just plain out abusive. Plus he one of the best abusers of the new Spirit Visage; just makes him sooo tanky lategame. With any sort of armor you just get like 2k eHP every time it up.

TL go abuse the GPs.

I don't think you've ever ran into pantheon


Didn't smash say GP beats panth with the right runes?
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
October 01 2013 09:20 GMT
#155
I don't think it is arguable Olaf was best 1v2 overall, taking into account heroes power levels. Nyx has a point though, gp's kit may slightly edge out olaf in cs during 1v2 phase, but hes nowhere as good as olaf.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 01 2013 09:25 GMT
#156
On October 01 2013 17:27 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 12:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
On October 01 2013 12:06 Shikyo wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:58 Gahlo wrote:
On October 01 2013 11:43 Shikyo wrote:
I don't think olaf ever was overpowered...

Oh Shiky, you never fail to amuse.

On October 01 2013 11:48 Kouda wrote:
ohmygod. You guys ever stop playing a champion for like a long period of time, then come back and suddenly you're like a god on them? I quit Riven for like a month or two, and now I'm like 4-1 with her with some insane stats today.

I've been on a nasty tear as Cait recently.

Mm? I don't think we have the same definition of overpowered, I don't think Olaf ever was significantly the best champion at its role. Feel free to disagree but do not berate me for having a different opinion, especially as you obviously had nothing of importance to add.

During the period of time when Olaf was like First Pick/Ban all across the pro scene he was probably a tad too strong.

He was the "best" 1v2 laner when nobody knew how to play 1v2s yet.

Whether he was actually the best 1v2 laner or was just easier given how bad people were at 1v2ing at the time is hard to say.

I think with undertow and the spell vamp from W I think he'd still be a strong 1v2 champ even when bot lanes got good at 1v2
Glorious SEA doto
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
October 01 2013 09:43 GMT
#157
Soooooo... I just randomly picked Renekton yesterday night in ranked never having played him, 'cause I could not be bothered playing one of my usual tops.

Did I have an epiphany or is this champ just ridiculously easy to play compared to many others on this lane? His sustain, harass and farm ability seem off the charts to me
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 01 2013 09:56 GMT
#158
Duh.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 10:06:21
October 01 2013 10:03 GMT
#159
You can duh me all you want, I've only started playing league like 6 months ago, so I don't know what half the champs do D:

On that theme, how is anyone supposed to react to E>AA>Q AA W>AA>E out?
I got five reasons for you to shut up
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
October 01 2013 10:11 GMT
#160
On October 01 2013 19:03 The_Unseen wrote:
You can duh me all you want, I've only started playing league like 6 months ago, so I don't know what half the champs do D:

On that theme, how is anyone supposed to react to E>AA>Q AA W>AA>E out?


They don't. That kind of free harass is Renektons thing.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
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