EPT[August off-topic]Until Neo decides - Page 43
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On August 22 2013 04:58 Roffles wrote: BNW hard game. Fuck the world banning my luxuries. QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ Still playing G&K np. I'll get BNW one day. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On August 22 2013 02:54 Scip wrote: The problem with TLGD right now is that the actual discussion about the game was the very worst part of the thread. This off-topic thread ascended from that and TLGD without off topic has fallen into the deepest pit of hell. Look what happened when we tried to get deep discussion about martial arts and fitness. New strategy: don't analyze anything Gonna challenge PX to 1v1 in the squat rack, brb | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
OR if you are somewhat isolated you can just win SV or DW without doing anything | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Someone come to Atlanta and be my workout buddy plz. | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On August 22 2013 05:39 ticklishmusic wrote: So I found out I don't go back to school until Friday-- I thought I was supposed to back yesterday, so that was a pleasant surprise. Someone come to Atlanta and be my workout buddy plz. now you have a few days to practice squats and deadlifts. Get that started and by mid-end november you will be wheeling the college hunnies | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On August 21 2013 21:44 AsnSensation wrote: Are you srs, dont post that in the Health&Fitness thread pls. This kind of comment really irks me because it basically says "you're wrong but I'm not going to contribute to the discussion at all". Honestly I'm tempted to post it in H&F simply to see what happens since you seem to be so adverse to the idea but didn't want to enlighten me yourself. Instead I'll probably do more of my own research and who knows if I'll actually come to the same conclusion as you have. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On August 22 2013 07:03 phyvo wrote: This kind of comment really irks me because it basically says "you're wrong but I'm not going to contribute to the discussion at all". Honestly I'm tempted to post it in H&F simply to see what happens since you seem to be so adverse to the idea but didn't want to enlighten me yourself. Instead I'll probably do more of my own research and who knows if I'll actually come to the same conclusion as you have. Because your original post is something I'd probably read in Men's Health and laugh my ass off. Intensive heavy lifting burns more than cardio in the same timeframe but Cardio still burns and yeah I do cardio myself but at the end of the day 80% is still dieting and 20% lifting/cardio. This running in the morning on empty stomach thing burning more fat is 1. About as old as this supposed "burning zone" you enter after 20min of cardio where you only start burning. 2. Even if it was true, the difference would be so neglectable that people are better off running after having a light meal and stick to HIIT instead of long, same pace runs if the goal is to lose weight. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
But yeah, he's right (even if he said it in a mean way). Cardio doesn't actually help you lose weight that much. It has obvious health benefits like lowering blood pressure and so forth, but it is not actually much more effective than lifting or other intensive exercise for losing weight. It burns calories, but not much more than other activities. Losing weight/ gaining weight is based simply on calories in versus calories out. Also, since doing lots of cardio basically requires you to be in good shape (to have already done cardio), its easy to see why people give up without progress. They run, start wheezing after like ten minutes. Ten minutes of running, ten minutes of burning calories. Or, you could probably go lift weights for half an hour and end up real sore, but you'll have spent a half hour burning calories instead. I used to run track, and I stayed thin despite eating massive amounts. That's not because I ran track, its because I ran track for a couple hours each day. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On August 22 2013 07:12 AsnSensation wrote: Because your original post is something I'd probably read in Men's Health and laugh my ass off. Intensive heavy lifting burns more than cardio in the same timeframe but Cardio still burns and yeah I do cardio myself but at the end of the day 80% is still dieting and 20% lifting/cardio. This running in the morning on empty stomach thing burning more fat is 1. About as old as this supposed "burning zone" you enter after 20min of cardio where you only start burning. 2. Even if it was true, the difference would be so neglectable that people are better off running after having a light meal and stick to HIIT instead of long, same pace runs if the goal is to lose weight. idk, doesn't hurt to explain why people are wrong. In this case, I don't know any better either. @_@ | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On August 22 2013 07:12 AsnSensation wrote: Because your original post is something I'd probably read in Men's Health and laugh my ass off. Intensive heavy lifting burns more than cardio in the same timeframe but Cardio still burns and yeah I do cardio myself but at the end of the day 80% is still dieting and 20% lifting/cardio. This running in the morning on empty stomach thing burning more fat is 1. About as old as this supposed "burning zone" you enter after 20min of cardio where you only start burning. 2. Even if it was true, the difference would be so neglectable that people are better off running after having a light meal and stick to HIIT instead of long, same pace runs if the goal is to lose weight. Yeah the only reason you want to run without eating is if you're training for a marathon/ultrarace. You train the fatburning metabolism, which you need at the ~35k mark. Running in the morning without being an advanced runner gets you nowhere. If you want to lose weight, just run after a light meal. It's way more enjoyable, too. That being said, I'm not a marathon runner so I only read about this. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On August 22 2013 05:08 NeoIllusions wrote: Still playing G&K np. I'll get BNW one day. Acronyms again. At least these aren't States' names this time. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
IMO this stuff is complicated and it's no wonder people get confused. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10349 Posts
can't lift all day with weak lungs and heart? | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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ComaDose
Canada10349 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On August 22 2013 07:30 phyvo wrote: From googling for about an hour I'm still getting conflicting information. There are a million muscle fad websites which propose this or that and the one actual study I found was from a year ago and suggested that while strength training is probably an important part of being healthy and keeping weight off it wasn't as effective as cardio for initial weight loss in overweight 50 year olds. As for the validity of my contribution it seemed pretty fizzled. IMO this stuff is complicated and it's no wonder people get confused. People committed to cardio are also more likely to retain exercise. So the correlation is that if you can build a cardio habit, or you're just a masochist cyclist/runner then that is better in the long run. But for the same reason, you could be doing strength building an anaerobic stuff when you're 50 as well (there's definitely old dudes at my gym that lift more than me). The great thing about anaerobic exercise is that if you are out of shape and have terrible cardiovascular health, you can still do the exercises at decent amounts to make progress. On August 22 2013 07:36 ComaDose wrote: I also thought the 20 min of cardio was a relative time frame to using the energy readily available before moving on to your body needing to burn fat. That's pretty much a myth. Calories output is calorie output, and if you burn 100 calories running for 20 mins you could probably also burn it lifting for 20 mins. Obviously your calorie output is 0 if you exhaust your muscles on weights before you've burnt through readily available energy sources (blood sugar, glycogen, w/e) but running a mile burns off the calories of like a mint. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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