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On August 13 2013 05:54 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
Someone other than us two answer this. Does anyone think I could possibly be more wishy-washy than Acro? Even a single person? Anyone who reads the filter will tell you Acro is softer. Whether this is a product of the RP or not is another thing entirely. I don't like how Acro defended me just now, especially in conjunction with my case on Shar.
You weren't exactly the credible player I was hoping for -.- But thanks anyway.
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I don't know why I haven't done this yet.
##vote: yamato77
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Doesn't really matter. Highly unlikely town would roleblock you, so the roleblock came from scum or scum withheld a roleblock to give you town cred which you already had.
So you're town. Don't really care about the rest.
Stop measuring dicks please.
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On August 13 2013 05:50 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 05:47 Xatalos wrote:On August 13 2013 05:42 Risen wrote:SharrantI don't know why I didn't see some really scummy things from Sharrant earlier. I was possibly tunneling my initial scum reads. Plus he's a claimed one shot cop. Regardless... + Show Spoiler +On August 10 2013 02:34 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:27 Oberyn wrote:
I think town should strongly try to influence the Lord elections for day two. I've bolded my preferred Lords. Please post if you disagree with my assessment.
House Tyrell:
Kushm4sta
johnnywup
Sharrant
Acrofales
Is it terrible that I'm picking the guy with one post? kush is a martyr so I wouldn't consider him. johnny is suspicious to several players, although I haven't spent much time on him yet and I have a scum read on Acro. I wish we had one of Dandel's house nukes.
House Greyjoy
raynpelikoneet
FirmTofu
Nachomamma8
Risen
I'm content with rayn staying as Lord based on activity.
House Stark
strongandbig
Clarity_nl
Oatsmaster
Vivax
This was a tough choice since most of these individuals are townish null. I'd like to see s&b's play today before making a final decision on this one.
House Lannister
iamperfection
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Gumshoe
Xatalos appears more town to me than iamp thus far. I don't like iamp's preferred house kp target and he hasn't done enough in the thread.
House Baratheon
Chromatically
Koshi
S0lstice
Dandel Ion
I would be pretty opposed to any of the other three at this point. Chrom has been pretty active in PMs.
House Martell
Oberyn
jrkirby
yamato77
Onegu
I feel I've been the most active among my house and I know my own alignment. Talk to me about your scum read on Acrofales. I'm interested in this and it seems like a much more fruitful discussion than what has been going on for the last few pages. I crucified FT for just the same thing. Just because FT flipped town doesn't mean what he did was right. Similarly, what Sharrant is doing here is posting filler and trying to "get the thread back on track" without actually getting the thread back on track. You know what gets the thread back on track? You posting your thoughts on Acro and then asking for other people's opinions. What's the hardest thing for scum to do? Hunt for scum. Did Sharrant hunt scum anywhere at all this game through day 1? No. Instead we have him jump on the wagon and do nothing of any use. + Show Spoiler +On August 10 2013 10:21 Sharrant wrote:
The wagon of justice definitely has my support. I would vote with you if I could. I hope when Acrofales returns he'll place our house's vote there as well. His strange "my case is original" is definitely the most damning part in my eyes.
I think we should concentrate on where houses should be using their shots. We have four hours until we can no longer plan inter-house.
Since Acrofales is not here at the moment, I will be suggesting that he fire at either Yamato or Nacho, with Nacho being the stronger recommendation.
I think that 3 houses should be elected as shooters. And fire at three agreed upon targets. The remaining three houses will be assigned to each target, and if the target is not dead before day break, they should fire upon them. If the targets die, then they are free to pick their own targets.
He suggests shooting yamato or nacho, but nacho's the stronger choice. Why? Where has he mentioned nacho at ALL up to this point? Where does he mention nacho again? Nowhere. No justification, no anything. Just him trying to shift shots from yamato to nacho. So how does someone get their cred back? A "cop check". Despite a complete lack of scum hunting through d1, what is one way to "confirm" yourself green? A one shot red check on someone who appears scummy to the thread and is likely going to be shot. I've bussed the shit out of scum buddies before, it works. The buildup to a fake claim. + Show Spoiler +On August 11 2013 15:06 Sharrant wrote:
At any rate, here's reason that you should've picked up on big time already. That whole argument with you at the beginning of the game was not Yamato playing as a townie. I watched you two basically get each other killed arguing with each other as town last time I played with both of you. Yamato has acted very similarly to how he has there, with the exception that he was always driving to make a point or do something useful last game. He was very disruptive, and frustrating, but purposeful and his actions had merit.
In this game he's basically just disrupted conversation, but done so without helping the town. He's been shutting people down, and causing arguments to stifle discussion. There's been nothing useful in his play.
He is mafia, guaranteed. Can you not see the difference in how he argued both games being on the receiving end of it both times? Where is this case coming from? Why didn't you have this yesterday before we were lynching FT? You certainly didn't have any reservations, and even as a cop trying to lay low you should have given some sort of justification. Now for the reveal. + Show Spoiler +On August 11 2013 22:33 Sharrant wrote:
Well, I wasn't quite expecting to be revealed so quickly.
I claimed my role to Acro last night (I'm a one shot alignment cop). I asked him who I should target with it, he said Kush and Yamato. Both players I had in mind originally. In case he was mafia I lied and said I would target Kush.
After I brought up framing he suggested that Kush might be too high profile, and that I should check Koshi or Ace. I think both of those are fairly legitimate suggestions. It seems less likely that Acro is mafia because he was suggesting more people to check that are in positions where a check would be very good.
An alternative is that Acro is mafia, and they have no framer like role, so he wanted to push me off a mafia Kush, but I find this unlikely.
At the end of the day you're left with a red check on Yamato, someone relatively out of the spotlight and not a likely choice for framers. And as I stated, his argumentative nature in this game is quite different from how it is when he's arguing as a town member. How this reads to me... "Oh, I wasn't expecting to be revealed as a cop even though I told someone I couldn't possibly know was town I was a cop thereby potentially opening myself up to a kill from scum negating my entire role! In case he was mafia I lied and said I would target kush right after explaining to the thread that kush was initially a target and could possibly be scum and as I don't know acro is town he could very well have mafia kill me for that!" If that isn't the worst explanation of something I have ever seen in a mafia game I don't know what is. He later says a scum Acro might have been trying to push him off Kush, but why not just kill you instead? Why doesn't scum look at that and say, "Well he claims to be one shot, but what if he can actually reuse the ability?" then kill him. A town cop doesn't not see this possibility. This only comes up when a scum team member trying to emulate a cop slips up. I don't know how it has slipped by the thread, but the final thing that bugs me about this post is how he says yamato is someone who was relatively out of the spotlight. I guarantee you ask anyone in this game or watching about a major event d1 and they'll say oats/yamato was something worth remembering. I don't think this works with a town acro, and it makes me really suspicious that Sharrant comes to the defense of Acro here + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2013 23:25 Sharrant wrote:
@oats/acro
I think we can agree that waiting would have been the ideal move rather than outing me publicly. Outing me to the thread doesn't seem scum motivated to me though. Oats, you're chasing sub optimal play as if it were scum oriented play.
Scum oriented play: pretend to have been gone after reading the pm, reveal it to the scum qt. Have yamato drop real wifom bombs before he was "caught" and have members of the scum team express suspicion of him in preparation for the reveal of the red check. Then tell the other lords.
Acro's handling of the situation is bad if he is scum, and acceptable but sub optimal as town. At worst that he revealed is null, at best it's kind of townie.
@koshi
Why would you even ask that? You've also discounted all the possibilities of a vig that is not instant kill. What if he too only has one kp? What if he has 3? Why haven't you discussed that? Why assume he has anywhere around the 7ish we knew were required to kill gum shoe? That hypothetical he weaves for acro's scum oriented play is just plain wrong as I've already explained. Now that Sharrant is "confirmed" and has sufficiently defended acro without going overboard, he slips away back into lurker land. Why do that if your one shot is gone? Why do that if you're still an active cop and just faking one shot? Scum already has to kill you they can't risk you getting more checks off if you're lying about one shot. Why? Because you're scum and you're not worried about getting night killed. Lol. So we should kill the claimed cop who gave us scum on a silver platter? Think again. Did you even read it.... Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 05:49 Oberyn wrote:
lol I just wasted 30 minutes looking through PMs from rayn looking for connections from a "confirmed scum" -_- Sorry about that!
I did. It's a possible theory but not very likely. Why should we kill Sharrant when the more likely theory is that he simply is a cop and found out yamato? We can't kill based on possibilities, we must focus on probabilities.
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While there is more merit to a detective with a red check being mafia than usual in this case, I don't think he's a great night shot and would rather have him discussed for a lynch at some point in the future. It's worth noting that Sharrant claimed a 1-shot cop at a point where the thread believed a 1-shot medic existed and yamato put no effort into fighting the red check.
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In the end it's going to come down to if Sharrant starts producing content or not.
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On August 13 2013 05:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Doesn't really matter. Highly unlikely town would roleblock you, so the roleblock came from scum or scum withheld a roleblock to give you town cred which you already had.
So you're town. Don't really care about the rest.
Stop measuring dicks please.
That's not entirely true. In my latest scumgame I used our roleblocks on myself repeatedly to give me more towncred even though I was already a generally accepted townread. You should go read my scumgames. I rarely get suspected as scum.
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maybe we will shoot risen just so i don't have to read his posts anymore.
ill be back in a few hours lords be on tonight if you can. If you cant you will blindly listen to your lord and savior the perfect one.
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Risen your case has some valid points. Yamato had a pretty big chance of getting lynched so it could be a bus.
That said, you're bending some stuff to make your case more convincing.
For example, why wouldn't a regular cop (not 1 shot) claim 1 shot cop? Gives you a (small) chance at another check.
I don't see a reason to lynch him d3. If he's town he'll die to scum eventually or scum will have to waste (or withhold) roleblocks on him.
I'm more interested in your scumread on me and grack. Could you (possibly in less than 4 paragraphs) explain them please?
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On August 13 2013 05:59 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 05:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Doesn't really matter. Highly unlikely town would roleblock you, so the roleblock came from scum or scum withheld a roleblock to give you town cred which you already had.
So you're town. Don't really care about the rest.
Stop measuring dicks please.
That's not entirely true. In my latest scumgame I used our roleblocks on myself repeatedly to give me more towncred even though I was already a generally accepted townread. You should go read my scumgames. I rarely get suspected as scum.
Well that's cool and all, and I do have this in my notes:
xata points out that acro and oberyn can't both be scum, I agree
He seems friendly and helpful to my ideas but his conclusion everytime is "could be, could not be, dunno"
But as I said, you already had some town cred so withholding a roleblock would be silly. If you're still alive d6 with towncred people should reconsider.
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On August 13 2013 06:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Risen your case has some valid points. Yamato had a pretty big chance of getting lynched so it could be a bus.
That said, you're bending some stuff to make your case more convincing.
For example, why wouldn't a regular cop (not 1 shot) claim 1 shot cop? Gives you a (small) chance at another check.
I don't see a reason to lynch him d3. If he's town he'll die to scum eventually or scum will have to waste (or withhold) roleblocks on him.
I'm more interested in your scumread on me and grack. Could you (possibly in less than 4 paragraphs) explain them please?
They may or may not be nonexistent now that I've actually read the filters...
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Do you agree while, that the possibility exists that sharrant is scum, he's a bad lynch or nk n2/d2?
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I think you're all off your rockers this is ridiculous. No cop does what Sharr is doing. Shar wants us to believe he told an unconfirmed Acro on n1 he was any sort of cop? What?!?! If that isn't the largest red flag his explanation after that is so riddled with absurdity makes it absolutely clear. Lynch yamato, shoot shar and if he flips red we lynch acro...
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Previous post was made prior to seeing clarity's.
If shar isn't the nk then he should absolutely be the lynch tomorrow barring something unusual during the night. What is one thing sharr has done this entire game beyond giving us yamato?
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On August 13 2013 06:02 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 05:59 Xatalos wrote:On August 13 2013 05:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Doesn't really matter. Highly unlikely town would roleblock you, so the roleblock came from scum or scum withheld a roleblock to give you town cred which you already had.
So you're town. Don't really care about the rest.
Stop measuring dicks please.
That's not entirely true. In my latest scumgame I used our roleblocks on myself repeatedly to give me more towncred even though I was already a generally accepted townread. You should go read my scumgames. I rarely get suspected as scum. Well that's cool and all, and I do have this in my notes: xata points out that acro and oberyn can't both be scum, I agree He seems friendly and helpful to my ideas but his conclusion everytime is "could be, could not be, dunno" But as I said, you already had some town cred so withholding a roleblock would be silly. If you're still alive d6 with towncred people should reconsider.
Actually my scum meta is to roleblock myself so I wouldn't say that 
But I agree that if I'm not NK'd by D6, I have failed. In fact one of my major goals for NWM was to get myself NK'd and I succeeded during the second night killings. Maybe a bit selfish but I was somehow sad that I always won convincingly as scum and then proceeded to fail and get lynched or Vigi'd as town :/ I'll try my hardest to be NK'd while taking down as many scum as I can.
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Although now that I said that maybe scum won't shoot me.
WIFOM time
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On August 13 2013 05:57 Oberyn wrote:
While there is more merit to a detective with a red check being mafia than usual in this case, I don't think he's a great night shot and would rather have him discussed for a lynch at some point in the future. It's worth noting that Sharrant claimed a 1-shot cop at a point where the thread believed a 1-shot medic existed and yamato put no effort into fighting the red check.
That's actually a decent point. Why did yamato give up so very easily? It should have been possible to at least get Sharrant lynched before scumclaiming. That lends some support to Risen's theory but otherwise it's a really bad idea to kill a semi-confirmed Cop.
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The disgraced lord Raynpelikoneet is a Blackfyre.
It first got my attention when he was excessively pedantic over a small mistake I made. Even accounting for differences in Common between the Iron Isles and the Reach, it was clear to everybody else that I had simply confused matters, yet Rayn went on and on and on WITHOUT a point:
On August 09 2013 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 04:36 Acrofales wrote:On August 09 2013 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Quote me please Acrofales. Where ever i give an opinion on Grack? Nowhere? Stags, Krakens, Lions, it's all the same to me. I'm here to catch Dragon pretenders. Then what do you mean by this: Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 04:22 Acrofales wrote:On August 09 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Acrofales do you think Grackaroni is mafia? All I know about Grackaroni is what you have told me, which is not conclusive at all. How am I to form an opinion without more information about your internal bickerings over there on those godforsaken isles? ?????
There was no point to be made. He wasn't protesting his innocence. He wasn't catching me out on something that could come from a Blackfyre, he was just being pedantic. While not necessarily indicative of being a Blackfyre, there is clearly no loyalist motive for being so pedantic and sidetracking the conversation, so he had perked my interest.
My next discussion with him was what made me really made me suspect him, and everybody already knows about it, but I will repeat it in different words, just to make it clear, again. Here is my earlier speech, from the archives, and I suggest you read it:
On August 09 2013 08:11 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 07:57 johnnywup wrote:
Acro, I'm confused. What are you talking about? Keep in mind the rest of the thread can't read the PMs between you two. Okay, here's what happened. Not being able to cite from my Maester's records is really complicating this matter. I told rayn that we were having a discussion in our house about the use of our healing magic and asked him what he thought was the best use of it. In particular, my original question mentioned that it seemed risky to use, as had been emphasized to me by both the Red Viper and Sharrant: if the information falls into the pretenders' hands, they will be able to better use their armies, whereas the advantage for coordinating our own swords seems secondary to this. Rayn answered with a similar observation, and seemed suspicious of WHY I thought it might be advantageous to use now. I answered that I initially had thought that it could be useful to coordinate our loyalist swords in order to not overcommit on any particular Blackfyre suspect. But I emphasized that the risk was greater than the reward. I also made an allusion to the plan concocted by Sharrant, the Red Viper and myself to perhaps catch Blackfyre scum using our magics, but this plan relies somewhat on secrecy and I am not divulging its workings in public. This post triggered the initial outburst in the thread, where rayn basically called me out for being a Blackfyre myself based on my supposed will to use the magic immediately. After I recognized what he might have misinterpreted in my original answer, I offered him an olive branch, pointing out what was probably the root of the misunderstanding and thinking I might have overreacted with his "misrepresenting my words". His response to that was that he would back down from his accusations if I told him about the plan. I don't take well to being blackmailed, and I certainly don't think blackmailing someone is a loyalist attitude. I am now convinced he is a Blackfyre infiltrant who is desperate for this information that might put a stop to their dastardly plans.
A brief summary: he offered to back down from his accusations if I gave him information that could potentially hurt the Blackfyre cause. The details of the plan are irrelevant, because neither he, nor I, knew the "plan" had been posted in public hours ago by this point. He was trying to strongarm me into giving information that a loyalist would not need, nor want. The obvious reason is because he is a Blackfyre
Since then I have been gathering evidence:
Careful probing of Baratheon politics
Raynpelikoneet is very happy to meddle and probe and fiddle and try to figure out what is happening, but at no point does he draw any conclusions. Nowhere does he mention anything about whether anything that happened in Baratheon was a Blackfyre plot. Here are his posts, it is a running commentary, with some slapdash questions: if anything, he is trying to figure out what happened, not whether there were questionable motives involved:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 08 2013 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi did you replace in before or after Dandel replaced out? (in NWM, not this game) On August 08 2013 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Solstice and Chromatically, could you comment on this DI/Koshi thingy? Which side of this do yout interactions with them support? Or is it something else? On August 09 2013 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah Solstice´s logic is really fishy.
That last post is his "conclusion". It is about as stand-offish and non-committal as you can get, just waiting for other people to voice their opinion. When they do, he is finally ready to voice his opinion:
On August 10 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, we need to start deciding stuff soon.
iamp, i am okay with your proposed shot. Lord KP should be used to vig lurkers, at least on N1.
How many of the lords do we want to vig a single target? 2? more? For me 2 seems fine.
As for lynch targets, so far i think:
Solstice - I called his thought process fishy earlier. This is what i meant. Solstice does not want Dandel to be a lord. He says, when Dandel is town, he probably does good stuff as a lord. When he is scum, he will most likely out himself. Then he doesn´t want to elect Dandel, because he can´t be sure if he is town. I don´t like that, at all. By Solstice´s thinking, he should definitely elect Dandel and noone else. It will give him a near 100% read on Dandel, as he himself said. Why does he not want to immediately figure out Dandel´s alignment? Later on he says that "Dandel will out him either way". Has he? I see no mention of Dandel´s alignment by Solstice after that.
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Remember guys! I was the first to call his logic bad. I didn't draw any conclusions at the time, but now that all of you think he's a Blackfyre, I am ready to support that. Just remember that I got there first! I will now rehash other people's arguments as if they are my own. Completely unconvincing. Also note the lack of a vote. About as non-committal a way of calling someone a Blackfyre as I have ever seen.
The Stark suspicion
Concurrently with the clusterfuck that happened in House Baratheon, the Starks were spilling their dirty laundry as well. Once again, Rayn is very careful to skirt the fray without diving in:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 09 2013 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 01:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 09 2013 01:22 Chromatically wrote:
What sort of reaction were you hoping for, clarity? If he were town he would be genuinely upset that his plan got ruined (he was, and early plans are crap anyway) If he were scum he would go "dang, you ruined my plan, oh well" Something along those lines. He did the former, obviously. What was the point of intentionally ignore SnB questioning you about your lie, multiple times as he said? What kind of reaction you were hoping for? And how did REDACTED act? Does he come townie to you or what? On August 09 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 01:34 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 09 2013 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 09 2013 01:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 09 2013 01:22 Chromatically wrote:
What sort of reaction were you hoping for, clarity? If he were town he would be genuinely upset that his plan got ruined (he was, and early plans are crap anyway) If he were scum he would go "dang, you ruined my plan, oh well" Something along those lines. He did the former, obviously. What was the point of intentionally ignore SnB questioning you about your lie, multiple times as he said? What kind of reaction you were hoping for? And how did REDACTED act? Does he come townie to you or what? I think he's town, yes. Although not for his reaction to what I said. Thought he was scum for a little bit but that changed. Also not because of his reaction. So yeah that part was kinda fruitless. Got a real strong townread on snb though. On August 09 2013 01:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 09 2013 01:22 Chromatically wrote:
What sort of reaction were you hoping for, clarity? If he were town he would be genuinely upset that his plan got ruined (he was, and early plans are crap anyway) If he were scum he would go "dang, you ruined my plan, oh well" Something along those lines. He did the former, obviously. It's not much of a plan if I just tell him straight away "oh I'm fishing for a reaction from you" You didn´t really answer me. If you are doing a reaction test you will know he will call you out for lying. You MUST have an answer to that (for reference see what i did in NWM N1) before it happens. Also when doing reaction tests in off thread comm games you basically gotta have a back up. Someone you tell what are you up to before you do it. Without that reaction tests are either stupid or scum. Mafia can after every mistake they make say "oh, it was just a reaction test", and everyone should believe them? So what was your intention during this whole thing that went on N0 in your place? On August 09 2013 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can these other reason be told in thread SnB?
If they somehow prove Clarity is town we are wasting time in this because this in my opinion does not 100% prove Clarity is scum. At least yet. On August 09 2013 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
SnB, Clarity and REDACTED:
Why can´t you just tell what the reasons for REDACTED is to think Clarity is town?
You are pushing the issue under the carpet after making such a scene out of it first. Why is that? On August 09 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 02:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 09 2013 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
SnB, Clarity and REDACTED:
Why can´t you just tell what the reasons for REDACTED is to think Clarity is town?
You are pushing the issue under the carpet after making such a scene out of it first. Why is that? I'm sure REDACTED will be here at some point and if I'm in danger of being lynched he'll probably share it. Assume he didn't have a read on me, would you want to lynch me? If i wanted, i would be voting for you. I do not know, that´s why i am trying to focus on other stuff. I am missing a part of information i fell is important to have a better read on you. Someone can give me that information but 3 people are refusing to do so. It´s retarded. What do you think of FT & Onegu? On August 09 2013 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so im REDACTED in SnB's conversation with clarity.
So events happened like this.
I was talking to clarity, and he told me SnB's rolename out of NOWHERE. Ok. So I asked him for his rolename. And he declined giving reasons like, 'scum can bluesnipe rolenames'. Which sounds like crap to me. But whatever.
Eventually, I decided to fakeclaim 1 shot rolename alignment check because he wouldnt tell me his rolename. After I said that, he gave it up willingly. I then came back and pm'ed him that the result was that its a fake role name. Fakeclaim. Which means he is scum. He then said something along the lines of 'ok dude' And nothing else. So that makes me think he is town cause he doesnt have an overt reaction. I dunno. Thoughts guys? I read all of this and i´m like wtf? I am clueless.. There are some more, but they are just more of the same
Of particular interest are the one that I bolded in red, and the last one. In both, he desperately wants someone else to take the lead and TELL him what to think of this. My conclusion from reading Oats' response was: I see no reason for Clarity to do this as a Blackfyre. It is at worst, a null tell. Oats' weird reaction test seemed more like it came from a Blackfyre motive, although none of it is very conclusive. But what struck me as weird is Rayn wants people to tell him what to think. If someone else thought it was suspicious he could then easily jump on the wagon.
Chasing lynchbait
In my humble opinion, johnnywup is the most obvious lynchbait in the thread. Rayn spends a lot of time going after him. In fact, it is the only suspect he has not yet recanted on. But he did forget about who his suspects were...
On August 12 2013 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don´t think yamato is town, and all my scumreads basically claimed blue..
On August 12 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
besides johnnywup..
Making suspects up on the spot? Hell yeah. Checked that tickbox. The suspects are SO real that he forgets about them!
In closing, Rayn is a Blackfyre pretender, and we should kill him tomorrow.
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On August 13 2013 06:10 Risen wrote:
Previous post was made prior to seeing clarity's.
If shar isn't the nk then he should absolutely be the lynch tomorrow barring something unusual during the night. What is one thing sharr has done this entire game beyond giving us yamato?
I shall sleep on it.
To anyone to whom it may concern: If you think there's a chance you might get nightkilled, prepare a list of reads and send them to the peoples in yo crib. Have them post it if you die, or post it yourself if you live.
Don't try to force reads if you're uncertain, but everyone should have at least a couple of decent reads by now.
I retract my idea of using house kp on risen. Johnny is probably a good target. Or kush (although some are calling him town? dunno, he's useless though)
Nighty night
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@ acro, you just described his town meta (or at least, this is how he was in titanic)
I'm also curious why johnny is lynchbait
Anyway, gnight
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