GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars - Page 126

On August 13 2013 06:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ acro, you just described his town meta (or at least, this is how he was in titanic)

I'm also curious why johnny is lynchbait

Anyway, gnight

On August 13 2013 05:33 Chromatically wrote:

Dandel can you explain why you thought/think Nacho was scum and should be shot above the other semi-lurkers?

On August 13 2013 07:13 Xatalos wrote:
Going to sleep now but I have to add that I actually feel better about Acro now. I can definitely see him being town. This scumhunting competition felt way too townish to fake so easily.

As a reminder, absolute priority should be to kill jrkirby. He's the scummiest lurker by far. Then Risen, Vivax and Kush should be looked at very closely. Without forgetting Ace, Acro and rayn of course.

On August 13 2013 05:10 s0Lstice wrote:
Rayn, describe your PMs with Acro please

On August 13 2013 06:15 Acrofales wrote:
The disgraced lord Raynpelikoneet is a Blackfyre.

It first got my attention when he was excessively pedantic over a small mistake I made. Even accounting for differences in Common between the Iron Isles and the Reach, it was clear to everybody else that I had simply confused matters, yet Rayn went on and on and on WITHOUT a point:

There was no point to be made. He wasn't protesting his innocence. He wasn't catching me out on something that could come from a Blackfyre, he was just being pedantic. While not necessarily indicative of being a Blackfyre, there is clearly no loyalist motive for being so pedantic and sidetracking the conversation, so he had perked my interest.

My next discussion with him was what made me really made me suspect him, and everybody already knows about it, but I will repeat it in different words, just to make it clear, again. Here is my earlier speech, from the archives, and I suggest you read it:

A brief summary: he offered to back down from his accusations if I gave him information that could potentially hurt the Blackfyre cause. The details of the plan are irrelevant, because neither he, nor I, knew the "plan" had been posted in public hours ago by this point. He was trying to strongarm me into giving information that a loyalist would not need, nor want. The obvious reason is because he is a Blackfyre

Since then I have been gathering evidence:

Careful probing of Baratheon politics
Raynpelikoneet is very happy to meddle and probe and fiddle and try to figure out what is happening, but at no point does he draw any conclusions. Nowhere does he mention anything about whether anything that happened in Baratheon was a Blackfyre plot. Here are his posts, it is a running commentary, with some slapdash questions: if anything, he is trying to figure out what happened, not whether there were questionable motives involved:
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That last post is his "conclusion". It is about as stand-offish and non-committal as you can get, just waiting for other people to voice their opinion. When they do, he is finally ready to voice his opinion:


Remember guys! I was the first to call his logic bad. I didn't draw any conclusions at the time, but now that all of you think he's a Blackfyre, I am ready to support that. Just remember that I got there first! I will now rehash other people's arguments as if they are my own. Completely unconvincing. Also note the lack of a vote. About as non-committal a way of calling someone a Blackfyre as I have ever seen.

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The Stark suspicion
Concurrently with the clusterfuck that happened in House Baratheon, the Starks were spilling their dirty laundry as well. Once again, Rayn is very careful to skirt the fray without diving in:
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Of particular interest are the one that I bolded in red, and the last one. In both, he desperately wants someone else to take the lead and TELL him what to think of this. My conclusion from reading Oats' response was: I see no reason for Clarity to do this as a Blackfyre. It is at worst, a null tell. Oats' weird reaction test seemed more like it came from a Blackfyre motive, although none of it is very conclusive. But what struck me as weird is Rayn wants people to tell him what to think. If someone else thought it was suspicious he could then easily jump on the wagon.

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Chasing lynchbait

In my humble opinion, johnnywup is the most obvious lynchbait in the thread. Rayn spends a lot of time going after him. In fact, it is the only suspect he has not yet recanted on. But he did forget about who his suspects were...




Making suspects up on the spot? Hell yeah. Checked that tickbox. The suspects are SO real that he forgets about them!

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In closing, Rayn is a Blackfyre pretender, and we should kill him tomorrow.

On August 13 2013 06:35 Xatalos wrote:


CONFIRMED SCUM LURKING ON PURPOSE

Hmm. Well, he shouldn't be a priority kill but he should be put under some heavy pressure. He has focused on all the wrong things so far, I agree with that.

On August 13 2013 08:49 s0Lstice wrote:
You all caught up ace?

Hows your pms with rayn going? Do you think sharrants claim was bs?

On August 13 2013 09:04 s0Lstice wrote:
Xatalos unsettles me.

D3 wagon of justice talk on acro, and then an eyeblink later he is getting talked into acros target.

On August 13 2013 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Are you going anywhere with these questions? You have been the definition of lurker in D2.