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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
I think claiming RB is very much a null tell, it shouldnt change your position on TG too much. | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:20 FiveTouch wrote: How do you like this claim, Cora? He's lying. I'm a detective. | ||
TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
Are you serious? Are you sane? (as in, cop sane) | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:21 FiveTouch wrote: Are you serious? Are you sane? (as in, cop sane) I'm pretty sure I'm sane. I checked myself to check for sanity and it said I came back a "detective" so I'm guessing I must be sane. | ||
FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:23 FiveTouch wrote: So you're a rolecop cop Corazon? Yep. I don't think the chances of a rolecop and an alignment cop being in the same 12-player setup are very good. Do you? | ||
FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
(sorry about all the questions, just need to be super clear on this) | ||
FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:25 FiveTouch wrote: Why did you check yourself? (sorry about all the questions, just need to be super clear on this) So I could see if I was sane or not. I didn't have too many clear scum reads, so I just decided to check myself for sanity because it hinted in my role that there was a chance I wasn't sane. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:11 FiveTouch wrote: Sigh. You voted for him yesterday, you have the townie read on him now. Maybe you should have read his posts. VE called me scummy early N2, you think I look bad, but neither of you seems to have read ME either.Why don't you explain exactly why whatever posts you are referring to have to come from a scum mindset rather than a town one, and maybe we can provide the alternative explanation and/or have a discussion about it? At the moment you're just rambling like a weirdo and looking pretty bad to me to be honest. ~marv Main posts of TG D1 - + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2013 09:27 TanGeng wrote: I'm not even the most inactive in this game Fuck! This is going to be bad for town. At this point I'm looking at the most active filter: getmoript. All this stuff looks townie for me right now. On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote: I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote. Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient." Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Votes JJD as pressure/suspicion 5 hours before deadline. Does so after reading getmoript, agress with getmoript. However getmoript had changed his vote a while previously, wasn't voting JJD, and either had said or said later that he got a townread on JJD. Implies either not actually reading filter, or just stopping at a candidate and throwing a vote there. Voting thread was 1 page, TG doesn't even look up to see that getmoript's vote no longer on JJD. On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote: When pressured about his vote, says he wanted JJD to show up for discussion. Look at my posts below, but the questions/poking at his above post weren't just "What do you want from JJD?" HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote: Focus on the bolded. Likes JJD for scum more than TAA. Those are his scumreads though, or scum-ish reads.I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here: It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game. We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum. On July 22 2013 12:55 TanGeng wrote: Still being pressured. Now there was no read on JJD, just probing. Won't explain how/why.Because it's not a read, yet, and if I'm probing, I am not going to telegraph how I will be probing. It isn't effective. I was clear that it was a pressure vote and I stand by that. Still not seeing where I am dropping head in the sand. On July 22 2013 13:13 TanGeng wrote: Still won't reveal anything he wanted JJD to discuss (and never has). Doesn't think TAA scum, despite those 2 being his scumreads before.I see I ignored you for the longest time and that was because I was read the thread and giving thought on other things, rather than wanting to reveal what questions I wanted to spring on JJD when he is back that he would want to answer because I had my vote on him. Also I don't think TAA is scum. What he did in his first series of posts can be considered scummy. On July 22 2013 14:14 TanGeng wrote: Now rayn and Tofu are scum. Mentioned before? Nope. Voted either before? Nope.My top suspicions are actually Tofu & Rayne. Tofu for trying to opening up ultra townie and then flinging shit around. Rayne is more of a gut feeling for those series of one liners to Tofu instead of real analysis. I wanted to follow up on Rayne but it looks like he's off. Honestly I don't know who to vote at the moment for because the day one voting volume has been so low, it's hard to pick up on anything. Doesn't look like there will be much more before the deadline so: ##vote: FirmTofu My thoughts on the deal, won't explain further, but they're honestly right there in my filter and were there on D1, where you guys don't seem to have looked. One thing that I'm unsure on, whether it's scummy or...WHAT it is, is the REFUSAL to answer straight questions posed repeatedly, while answering anything else in posts - + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote: Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. On July 22 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote: My apologies. Pretty please explain that sentence and your vote. On July 22 2013 10:34 austinmcc wrote: It's late in the evening She's wondering what clothes to wear I want to lynch TanGeng For making this post right here. (1) - Looks at getmoript's filter, doesn't mention all the TAA suspicion, the TAA vote, and apparently even though the voting thread is only one page, doesn't notice that getmoript's vote has moved and nobody is on JJD right now. (2) Initial pressure/suspicion vote with...5ish hours until deadline in a game that TanGeng has mentioned, at multiple points, is low activity. How is he pressuring? (3) Dat reason for voting. Vote him cuz he played conveniently (4) Repetetive "game is dead"/"I am useless"/"LOL I'm not most inactive town" comments. Checked nuclear, much more active there, has thoughts, follows up on thoughts. I don't care if he's busy, that's fine, but that post and vote are my least favorite thing in the thread right now. On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote: What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure? On July 22 2013 10:50 austinmcc wrote: Wut? It's interesting that he made a lurker list, and, assuming marv has been doing the posting, has basically ONLY made the lurker list and contributed little else, yet left you off of it. 48 hours to make a lurker list in a mini and he leaves a dude off. Just interesting for now. You say it's stupid. Anything else? Do you think it's alignment-indicative at all? But more importantly: On July 22 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote: Okay. So can we actually get to JJD now? You wanted to vote him so that he'd come in and discuss, because he's been pretty absent. But you've been absent, and you've mentioned that, and then you're repeatedly not discussing the JJD read/vote. Is there specific discussion you want from him? Is the convenient timing on the entrance and then leaving a scummy convenience (I think timing CAN be scummy, but it's not always. Feel free to disagree with that if you think all/no convenient timing is scummy)? If you were reading/sheeping geript, do you like JJD for scum more than TAA? On July 22 2013 11:16 austinmcc wrote: Seriously, i'm interested here. You made that post, you made that vote, I'm trying to figure out why. On July 22 2013 11:35 austinmcc wrote: As best as I can tell, TAA was calling FirmTofu kind of scummy or useless in that post. You disagree with the assessment and think TAA is just making a fluff post? Also, you like JJD for scum. But you voted him in hopes he gets in here and discusses stuff. What do you want him to discuss? What in particular did JJD do that's scummy? The convenient entry/exit? Something more? On July 22 2013 11:47 austinmcc wrote: I don't even care anymore. I will give you my firstborn child if you will just answer questions about JJD. You are here. You are answering all these other things. I will stop asking them. I will give you like...my first THREE kids. I will actually force someone to go through 27 months of labor and 3 deliveries just so that I can take the children and ship them to you if you will just talk about JJD and why he's scummy and what you want him to discuss. On July 22 2013 12:14 austinmcc wrote: The details that I'm asking for are...for you to explain why you were voting someone and comments you've made about them. I look at nuclear and I see posts where you lay out a thought process, reason through something, reach a conclusion. + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 19:12 TanGeng wrote: It's not that we've cleared Chezinu. In fact, he's still being looked at fairly hard. It's just that I'm not on board for immediate action. For town play, it's bad town play. But for scum play, it's bad too, because right now town has no information or leads to go on and doing this sort of thing immediately gives town a lead and potential for better analysis. At this point, I'm willing to wait for Chezinu's reasoning or for Xatalos's flip before acting on it. On July 08 2013 22:38 TanGeng wrote: Ahh I see the issue. Yes, I was discussing the possibility that inactives may have suicided, although there are only a few players that might fall into that category now. My thought process is that if there are many of Day 1 nukes, the scum could have one, and the play from johnnywup makes sense from the view point of a scum needing to fire nukes and arguing OMGUS on his lynch "bandwagon" and looking for any ground to justify someone to nuke. All his scumhunting logic is terrible. "2 or 3 scum going to bandwagon together on the first day?" That's highly unlikely. Scum are more likely to distance themselves from each other to sow confusion rather than appear as a bloc to the community. Scum day one distance each other. If multiple nukes do not explode, we're left with either a true deadline claim and town or scum or a false deadline claim and scum from one person (and maybe Chez - but Chez fired almost immediately so that might be even earlier of a deadline). Although it is speculation, I don't think lonely scum Day 1 deadline is likely at all in the setup and I'm eliminating putting aside that possibility. A false claim strategy from scum just doesn't make any sense, and I don't see them pulling it off. That leaves with only the town possibility. On July 09 2013 06:07 TanGeng wrote: My stance on this lynch is let ON calm down and give a counterargument. There's just huge bandwagoning at the moment. At first examination ON's blue role is ridiculous but it actually falls inline with the amount of power that other blue roles have for example Chezinu/johnnywup Day 1 nukes are more mayhem roles. While Xatalos's must be nuked and become radiation infector is a latent one that may never be triggered. The other ones, one redirect (hidden) and single shoot down (Oatsmaster) are far more powerful. (We also apparently have the tried and true Medic in NG.) I see ON's claim in line with Xatalos's. It's marginal role but the claim is well within the realm of possibilities. Town makes bad posts. Town often makes scummy posts. Whatever. I'm seeking the details to try and determine why you voted a dude you voted, regardless of any meta, because your reasons for voting are important. So again, let me ask some very specific things. And offer babies. What are you hoping to discuss? Do you have any questions for him? Is there a specific read you want to see from him? Your vote was pressure/suspicion, so what is it that you want to see from him, and how does it help you read him? If JJD's jumping on and leaving is "most likely not indicative of scum," then why did you vote him? On July 22 2013 13:05 austinmcc wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote: Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. On July 22 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote: My apologies. Pretty please explain that sentence and your vote. On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote: Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it? From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it. On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote: HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote: What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure? On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote: Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it? From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it. On July 22 2013 10:50 austinmcc wrote: Wut? It's interesting that he made a lurker list, and, assuming marv has been doing the posting, has basically ONLY made the lurker list and contributed little else, yet left you off of it. 48 hours to make a lurker list in a mini and he leaves a dude off. Just interesting for now. You say it's stupid. Anything else? Do you think it's alignment-indicative at all? But more importantly: On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote: What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure? On July 22 2013 11:03 TanGeng wrote: Looking at the post timing, it wasn't that bad of any omission at the time. I don't see it as alignment indicative. On July 22 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote: Okay. So can we actually get to JJD now? You wanted to vote him so that he'd come in and discuss, because he's been pretty absent. But you've been absent, and you've mentioned that, and then you're repeatedly not discussing the JJD read/vote. Is there specific discussion you want from him? Is the convenient timing on the entrance and then leaving a scummy convenience (I think timing CAN be scummy, but it's not always. Feel free to disagree with that if you think all/no convenient timing is scummy)? If you were reading/sheeping geript, do you like JJD for scum more than TAA? On July 22 2013 11:16 austinmcc wrote: Seriously, i'm interested here. You made that post, you made that vote, I'm trying to figure out why. On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote: I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here: It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game. We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum. On July 22 2013 11:35 austinmcc wrote: As best as I can tell, TAA was calling FirmTofu kind of scummy or useless in that post. You disagree with the assessment and think TAA is just making a fluff post? Also, you like JJD for scum. But you voted him in hopes he gets in here and discusses stuff. What do you want him to discuss? What in particular did JJD do that's scummy? The convenient entry/exit? Something more? On July 22 2013 11:47 austinmcc wrote: I don't even care anymore. I will give you my firstborn child if you will just answer questions about JJD. You are here. You are answering all these other things. I will stop asking them. I will give you like...my first THREE kids. I will actually force someone to go through 27 months of labor and 3 deliveries just so that I can take the children and ship them to you if you will just talk about JJD and why he's scummy and what you want him to discuss. There's what I'm talking about. Big bolded bits are me asking you what discussion you wanted, why you were voting, whether it bothered you that getmoript, the hydra you read and whose suspicions you were voting off of, had unvoted, etc. etc. etc. You talked about TAA. You talked about why TAA was also somewhat scummy. You talked about being left off of lists. About inactives. But dear sweet jesus you REFUSED to discuss your actual vote, what you wanted JJD to discuss, etc. etc. | ||
FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
getmoript, do you have anything with sanity, or do you know you're sane? ~marv | ||
Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:27 FiveTouch wrote: I think the chances of a rolecop checking himself for insanity is....far fetched. Everyone vote Corazon because he's a liar. -VE My pm didn't say I was a rolecop specifically. It just says I was an investigator, it wasn't specific on whether I was alignment based or role based. | ||
JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
##vote TAA Part of me thinks this a way for getmoript to save oats but I'll trade 1 for 2. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:27 FiveTouch wrote: WHY WOULD SCUM TG CLAIM VT AND THEN TO BE RBED?I think the chances of a rolecop checking himself for insanity is....far fetched. Everyone vote Corazon because he's a liar. -VE Should probably be followed by WHY WOULD SCUM CORA CLAIM ROLECOP WHO ONLY CHECKED HIMSELF? | ||
JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:28 austinmcc wrote: Sigh. You voted for him yesterday, you have the townie read on him now. Maybe you should have read his posts. VE called me scummy early N2, you think I look bad, but neither of you seems to have read ME either. Main posts of TG D1 - + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2013 09:27 TanGeng wrote: I'm not even the most inactive in this game Fuck! This is going to be bad for town. At this point I'm looking at the most active filter: getmoript. All this stuff looks townie for me right now. On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote: I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote. Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient." Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Votes JJD as pressure/suspicion 5 hours before deadline. Does so after reading getmoript, agress with getmoript. However getmoript had changed his vote a while previously, wasn't voting JJD, and either had said or said later that he got a townread on JJD. Implies either not actually reading filter, or just stopping at a candidate and throwing a vote there. Voting thread was 1 page, TG doesn't even look up to see that getmoript's vote no longer on JJD. On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote: When pressured about his vote, says he wanted JJD to show up for discussion. Look at my posts below, but the questions/poking at his above post weren't just "What do you want from JJD?" HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote: Focus on the bolded. Likes JJD for scum more than TAA. Those are his scumreads though, or scum-ish reads.I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here: It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game. We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum. On July 22 2013 12:55 TanGeng wrote: Still being pressured. Now there was no read on JJD, just probing. Won't explain how/why.Because it's not a read, yet, and if I'm probing, I am not going to telegraph how I will be probing. It isn't effective. I was clear that it was a pressure vote and I stand by that. Still not seeing where I am dropping head in the sand. On July 22 2013 13:13 TanGeng wrote: Still won't reveal anything he wanted JJD to discuss (and never has). Doesn't think TAA scum, despite those 2 being his scumreads before.I see I ignored you for the longest time and that was because I was read the thread and giving thought on other things, rather than wanting to reveal what questions I wanted to spring on JJD when he is back that he would want to answer because I had my vote on him. Also I don't think TAA is scum. What he did in his first series of posts can be considered scummy. On July 22 2013 14:14 TanGeng wrote: Now rayn and Tofu are scum. Mentioned before? Nope. Voted either before? Nope.My top suspicions are actually Tofu & Rayne. Tofu for trying to opening up ultra townie and then flinging shit around. Rayne is more of a gut feeling for those series of one liners to Tofu instead of real analysis. I wanted to follow up on Rayne but it looks like he's off. Honestly I don't know who to vote at the moment for because the day one voting volume has been so low, it's hard to pick up on anything. Doesn't look like there will be much more before the deadline so: ##vote: FirmTofu My thoughts on the deal, won't explain further, but they're honestly right there in my filter and were there on D1, where you guys don't seem to have looked. One thing that I'm unsure on, whether it's scummy or...WHAT it is, is the REFUSAL to answer straight questions posed repeatedly, while answering anything else in posts - + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote: Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. On July 22 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote: My apologies. Pretty please explain that sentence and your vote. On July 22 2013 10:34 austinmcc wrote: It's late in the evening She's wondering what clothes to wear I want to lynch TanGeng For making this post right here. (1) - Looks at getmoript's filter, doesn't mention all the TAA suspicion, the TAA vote, and apparently even though the voting thread is only one page, doesn't notice that getmoript's vote has moved and nobody is on JJD right now. (2) Initial pressure/suspicion vote with...5ish hours until deadline in a game that TanGeng has mentioned, at multiple points, is low activity. How is he pressuring? (3) Dat reason for voting. Vote him cuz he played conveniently (4) Repetetive "game is dead"/"I am useless"/"LOL I'm not most inactive town" comments. Checked nuclear, much more active there, has thoughts, follows up on thoughts. I don't care if he's busy, that's fine, but that post and vote are my least favorite thing in the thread right now. On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote: What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure? On July 22 2013 10:50 austinmcc wrote: Wut? It's interesting that he made a lurker list, and, assuming marv has been doing the posting, has basically ONLY made the lurker list and contributed little else, yet left you off of it. 48 hours to make a lurker list in a mini and he leaves a dude off. Just interesting for now. You say it's stupid. Anything else? Do you think it's alignment-indicative at all? But more importantly: On July 22 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote: Okay. So can we actually get to JJD now? You wanted to vote him so that he'd come in and discuss, because he's been pretty absent. But you've been absent, and you've mentioned that, and then you're repeatedly not discussing the JJD read/vote. Is there specific discussion you want from him? Is the convenient timing on the entrance and then leaving a scummy convenience (I think timing CAN be scummy, but it's not always. Feel free to disagree with that if you think all/no convenient timing is scummy)? If you were reading/sheeping geript, do you like JJD for scum more than TAA? On July 22 2013 11:16 austinmcc wrote: Seriously, i'm interested here. You made that post, you made that vote, I'm trying to figure out why. On July 22 2013 11:35 austinmcc wrote: As best as I can tell, TAA was calling FirmTofu kind of scummy or useless in that post. You disagree with the assessment and think TAA is just making a fluff post? Also, you like JJD for scum. But you voted him in hopes he gets in here and discusses stuff. What do you want him to discuss? What in particular did JJD do that's scummy? The convenient entry/exit? Something more? On July 22 2013 11:47 austinmcc wrote: I don't even care anymore. I will give you my firstborn child if you will just answer questions about JJD. You are here. You are answering all these other things. I will stop asking them. I will give you like...my first THREE kids. I will actually force someone to go through 27 months of labor and 3 deliveries just so that I can take the children and ship them to you if you will just talk about JJD and why he's scummy and what you want him to discuss. On July 22 2013 12:14 austinmcc wrote: The details that I'm asking for are...for you to explain why you were voting someone and comments you've made about them. I look at nuclear and I see posts where you lay out a thought process, reason through something, reach a conclusion. + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 19:12 TanGeng wrote: It's not that we've cleared Chezinu. In fact, he's still being looked at fairly hard. It's just that I'm not on board for immediate action. For town play, it's bad town play. But for scum play, it's bad too, because right now town has no information or leads to go on and doing this sort of thing immediately gives town a lead and potential for better analysis. At this point, I'm willing to wait for Chezinu's reasoning or for Xatalos's flip before acting on it. On July 08 2013 22:38 TanGeng wrote: Ahh I see the issue. Yes, I was discussing the possibility that inactives may have suicided, although there are only a few players that might fall into that category now. My thought process is that if there are many of Day 1 nukes, the scum could have one, and the play from johnnywup makes sense from the view point of a scum needing to fire nukes and arguing OMGUS on his lynch "bandwagon" and looking for any ground to justify someone to nuke. All his scumhunting logic is terrible. "2 or 3 scum going to bandwagon together on the first day?" That's highly unlikely. Scum are more likely to distance themselves from each other to sow confusion rather than appear as a bloc to the community. Scum day one distance each other. If multiple nukes do not explode, we're left with either a true deadline claim and town or scum or a false deadline claim and scum from one person (and maybe Chez - but Chez fired almost immediately so that might be even earlier of a deadline). Although it is speculation, I don't think lonely scum Day 1 deadline is likely at all in the setup and I'm eliminating putting aside that possibility. A false claim strategy from scum just doesn't make any sense, and I don't see them pulling it off. That leaves with only the town possibility. On July 09 2013 06:07 TanGeng wrote: My stance on this lynch is let ON calm down and give a counterargument. There's just huge bandwagoning at the moment. At first examination ON's blue role is ridiculous but it actually falls inline with the amount of power that other blue roles have for example Chezinu/johnnywup Day 1 nukes are more mayhem roles. While Xatalos's must be nuked and become radiation infector is a latent one that may never be triggered. The other ones, one redirect (hidden) and single shoot down (Oatsmaster) are far more powerful. (We also apparently have the tried and true Medic in NG.) I see ON's claim in line with Xatalos's. It's marginal role but the claim is well within the realm of possibilities. Town makes bad posts. Town often makes scummy posts. Whatever. I'm seeking the details to try and determine why you voted a dude you voted, regardless of any meta, because your reasons for voting are important. So again, let me ask some very specific things. And offer babies. What are you hoping to discuss? Do you have any questions for him? Is there a specific read you want to see from him? Your vote was pressure/suspicion, so what is it that you want to see from him, and how does it help you read him? If JJD's jumping on and leaving is "most likely not indicative of scum," then why did you vote him? On July 22 2013 13:05 austinmcc wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote: Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. On July 22 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote: My apologies. Pretty please explain that sentence and your vote. On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote: Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it? From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it. On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote: HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote: What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure? On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote: Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it? From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it. On July 22 2013 10:50 austinmcc wrote: Wut? It's interesting that he made a lurker list, and, assuming marv has been doing the posting, has basically ONLY made the lurker list and contributed little else, yet left you off of it. 48 hours to make a lurker list in a mini and he leaves a dude off. Just interesting for now. You say it's stupid. Anything else? Do you think it's alignment-indicative at all? But more importantly: On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote: What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure? On July 22 2013 11:03 TanGeng wrote: Looking at the post timing, it wasn't that bad of any omission at the time. I don't see it as alignment indicative. On July 22 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote: Okay. So can we actually get to JJD now? You wanted to vote him so that he'd come in and discuss, because he's been pretty absent. But you've been absent, and you've mentioned that, and then you're repeatedly not discussing the JJD read/vote. Is there specific discussion you want from him? Is the convenient timing on the entrance and then leaving a scummy convenience (I think timing CAN be scummy, but it's not always. Feel free to disagree with that if you think all/no convenient timing is scummy)? If you were reading/sheeping geript, do you like JJD for scum more than TAA? On July 22 2013 11:16 austinmcc wrote: Seriously, i'm interested here. You made that post, you made that vote, I'm trying to figure out why. On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote: I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here: It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game. We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum. On July 22 2013 11:35 austinmcc wrote: As best as I can tell, TAA was calling FirmTofu kind of scummy or useless in that post. You disagree with the assessment and think TAA is just making a fluff post? Also, you like JJD for scum. But you voted him in hopes he gets in here and discusses stuff. What do you want him to discuss? What in particular did JJD do that's scummy? The convenient entry/exit? Something more? On July 22 2013 11:47 austinmcc wrote: I don't even care anymore. I will give you my firstborn child if you will just answer questions about JJD. You are here. You are answering all these other things. I will stop asking them. I will give you like...my first THREE kids. I will actually force someone to go through 27 months of labor and 3 deliveries just so that I can take the children and ship them to you if you will just talk about JJD and why he's scummy and what you want him to discuss. There's what I'm talking about. Big bolded bits are me asking you what discussion you wanted, why you were voting, whether it bothered you that getmoript, the hydra you read and whose suspicions you were voting off of, had unvoted, etc. etc. etc. You talked about TAA. You talked about why TAA was also somewhat scummy. You talked about being left off of lists. About inactives. But dear sweet jesus you REFUSED to discuss your actual vote, what you wanted JJD to discuss, etc. etc. No, you don't get to pull this bullshit on me austin. I just browsed some of those posts, and they are you describing what Tangeng posted and saying they were scummy. Fine. I want to know exactly what posts HAVE to be from a scum mindset. You just post useless blurb all over the place. Create NEW content on exactly which posts you can't reconcile with a townie-TG. You've created a narrative, but I want to know exactly what part of your narrative you find so convincing, else it's just a narrative. ~marv P.S. he probably doesn't answer your questions because they're lost in dense blurb. | ||
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