• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:41
CEST 16:41
KST 23:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 29ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes35Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch2[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes HomeStory Cup In Early July 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BW General Discussion Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch First season(s) of tastosis gomtv gsl vods? Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered?
Tourneys
The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 19799 users

A Bluelightz Mafia "The Attack" - Page 51

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 49 50 51 52 53 134 Next
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 20:33 GMT
#1001
Actually I'm completely speculating. It's hard to believe myself.

Repeat:
I'm not sure why I sucked out a RB on night 1.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 23 2013 20:34 GMT
#1002
Conversely if he's town and claimed VT on D1, what better to bring further scrutiny on TG by roleblocking him N1? You know he's gonna claim the RB, why wouldn't you? And then people ask the weird questions that a scum TG would be AVOIDING by NOT claiming RB: "Why would scum roleblock you if you claimed VT?"
Artanis & marv
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 23 2013 20:36 GMT
#1003
On July 24 2013 05:31 FiveTouch wrote:
I buy it. I think TG is town and scum are setting him up with the RB.

Think about it. If he's scum, why would he claim RB after claiming VT on D1? That doesn't make any sense from a scum perspective, because he'd have to answer weird questions like "Why would scum roleblock you if you claimed VT?"


With that kind of thinking, you could say that a scum player who was almost lynched could think of that and claim RB to have someone else come to that conclusion, giving that person a town read on the scum player.

If you want to play the WIFOM game, I'd love to play along too...
Grubby's #1 Fan
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 23 2013 20:38 GMT
#1004
On July 24 2013 05:29 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 04:58 TanGeng wrote:
I'm not sure why I sucked out a RB on night 1.

If scum RB, would scum put me on a blue role?
If town RB, what does it mean? In small games, is a town RB feasible?


I love how your thought about the scum RB'ing you is completely in line with town sentiment, yet your thought about the town RB'ing you is complete setup speculation and WIFOM.

There's literally no explanation why anyone would RB you. I really don't buy your RB claim.


You're the one trying to WIFOM about why he's lying about the claim Cora don't even.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 23 2013 20:43 GMT
#1005
The fact of the matter is, if TG is scum than he
  • Claimed VT D1
  • Dodged Lynch D1
  • ?????? Claimed RB D2?????

??? You're espousing a theory that doesn't make sense from any fucking perspective Cora. You're saying that he claimed VT on D1, and while scrutiny is ALREADY ON HIM, LIED ABOUT BEING ROLEBLOCKED D2!

COORRAAAAA THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE COOORRAAAAAAA!!!!

##Unvote
##Vote: cDgCorazon
Artanis & marv
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 23 2013 20:44 GMT
#1006
On July 24 2013 05:31 FiveTouch wrote:
I buy it. I think TG is town and scum are setting him up with the RB.

Think about it. If he's scum, why would he claim RB after claiming VT on D1? That doesn't make any sense from a scum perspective, because he'd have to answer weird questions like "Why would scum roleblock you if you claimed VT?"
Still curious about this. Is it purely wrapped up in the RB claim and mention of Onegu?
Fe fi fo fum.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 23 2013 20:46 GMT
#1007
@ JJD

Are you still around?
Now that you're on Oatsmaster, what happened to your stance on FirmTofu? Has your read changed at all?
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 23 2013 20:47 GMT
#1008
On July 24 2013 05:44 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 05:31 FiveTouch wrote:
I buy it. I think TG is town and scum are setting him up with the RB.

Think about it. If he's scum, why would he claim RB after claiming VT on D1? That doesn't make any sense from a scum perspective, because he'd have to answer weird questions like "Why would scum roleblock you if you claimed VT?"
Still curious about this. Is it purely wrapped up in the RB claim and mention of Onegu?

I don't need to explain my townreads to you right now austin, unless TG is on the cusp of getting lynched, don't you worry about why I think TG is town.

-VE
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 23 2013 20:49 GMT
#1009
austin keeps asking odd questions. And not in the odd-austin way, but in an odd-odd way. Not sure what to make of it yet, other than it being odd.

~marv
Artanis & marv
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 20:51 GMT
#1010
@5T. Why not TAA? I think he's a much better lynch, he's scummy, not doing anything at all and we don't have to worry about misreading him based on bad past experiences.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 23 2013 20:52 GMT
#1011
On July 24 2013 05:47 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 05:44 austinmcc wrote:
On July 24 2013 05:31 FiveTouch wrote:
I buy it. I think TG is town and scum are setting him up with the RB.

Think about it. If he's scum, why would he claim RB after claiming VT on D1? That doesn't make any sense from a scum perspective, because he'd have to answer weird questions like "Why would scum roleblock you if you claimed VT?"
Still curious about this. Is it purely wrapped up in the RB claim and mention of Onegu?

I don't need to explain my townreads to you right now austin, unless TG is on the cusp of getting lynched, don't you worry about why I think TG is town.

-VE
No, you don't NEED to. But I realized what I wanted from you last night, when asking why you found TG scummy. I wanted...specifics, I wanted you to reference his vote on JJD, votepost, comment about discussion, the avoidance of talking about those things--the specific posts that led to the scumread that led to the wagon that led to the almost-lynch. You spoke in some general terms about things, but you never referenced the start of the wagon or my read or those posts.

Now, he's become a townread. But for reasons that have to do with setup speculation and WIFOM, not his posts, and you're still not going back to those and incorporating them into anything. Like I noted at night, I was watching for people to call TG/Oats scummy and still want to lynch other folks, but also watching for people who come off of them for little/no reason and onto other people. Right now, you blipped on that radar. It's a thing that could go either way, and you explaining yourself lets me know how to interpret this.

Beyond that, AMG CORA SCUM FOR MAKING ASSUMPTIONS AND DRAWING WEIRD CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THE RB CLAIM BECAUSE I COME TO DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS AND WEIRD CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THE RB CLAIM. I think that vote is poop soup.
Fe fi fo fum.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 23 2013 20:53 GMT
#1012
Not sure what bad experiences you're referring to? This is VE's baby, with my blessing.

You can't say "why not TAA" without addressing the fundamental concerns that VE brought up.

~marv
Artanis & marv
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 20:53 GMT
#1013
I agree that discussion about the RB is non-productive. It's either a a town RB suspecting scum OR scum setup.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 23 2013 20:54 GMT
#1014
I have no bad past experiences with Cora which will color my read of him one way or another. I want to lynch him based on what I'm reading in this thread. Thanks for your concern though getmo.

-VE
Artanis & marv
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 20:54 GMT
#1015
On July 24 2013 05:53 FiveTouch wrote:
Not sure what bad experiences you're referring to? This is VE's baby, with my blessing.

You can't say "why not TAA" without addressing the fundamental concerns that VE brought up.

~marv

I'll comment when I get off work.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 23 2013 20:54 GMT
#1016
So austin, what's your current Oats opinion?

~marv
Artanis & marv
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 23 2013 20:56 GMT
#1017
OK, I'm not sure why people are overthinking this TG roleblock thing. He was almost definately targetted by a townie that blocked him becuase they felt he was scummy. Why doesn't that make sense?

And I don't think it's alignment indicative. It just means whoever the roleblocker is felt like he was possibly scum.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 23 2013 20:56 GMT
#1018
On July 24 2013 05:52 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 05:47 FiveTouch wrote:
On July 24 2013 05:44 austinmcc wrote:
On July 24 2013 05:31 FiveTouch wrote:
I buy it. I think TG is town and scum are setting him up with the RB.

Think about it. If he's scum, why would he claim RB after claiming VT on D1? That doesn't make any sense from a scum perspective, because he'd have to answer weird questions like "Why would scum roleblock you if you claimed VT?"
Still curious about this. Is it purely wrapped up in the RB claim and mention of Onegu?

I don't need to explain my townreads to you right now austin, unless TG is on the cusp of getting lynched, don't you worry about why I think TG is town.

-VE
No, you don't NEED to. But I realized what I wanted from you last night, when asking why you found TG scummy. I wanted...specifics, I wanted you to reference his vote on JJD, votepost, comment about discussion, the avoidance of talking about those things--the specific posts that led to the scumread that led to the wagon that led to the almost-lynch. You spoke in some general terms about things, but you never referenced the start of the wagon or my read or those posts.

Now, he's become a townread. But for reasons that have to do with setup speculation and WIFOM, not his posts, and you're still not going back to those and incorporating them into anything. Like I noted at night, I was watching for people to call TG/Oats scummy and still want to lynch other folks, but also watching for people who come off of them for little/no reason and onto other people. Right now, you blipped on that radar. It's a thing that could go either way, and you explaining yourself lets me know how to interpret this.

Beyond that, AMG CORA SCUM FOR MAKING ASSUMPTIONS AND DRAWING WEIRD CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THE RB CLAIM BECAUSE I COME TO DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS AND WEIRD CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THE RB CLAIM. I think that vote is poop soup.


I didn't realize TG claimed VT overnight. I didn't notice that until filtering him today. I don't think scum would claim VT on D1 period, and I CERTAINLY don't think scum would claim RB on D2 after claiming VT on D1 austin. Is that specific enough for you?
Artanis & marv
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 23 2013 20:58 GMT
#1019
On July 24 2013 05:46 TanGeng wrote:
@ JJD

Are you still around?
Now that you're on Oatsmaster, what happened to your stance on FirmTofu? Has your read changed at all?
No it hasn't changed (and how could it? he's barely posted since then). I think Oats is @ least as scummy though. And an Oats lynch is more likely to happen.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 23 2013 20:58 GMT
#1020
On July 24 2013 05:54 FiveTouch wrote:
So austin, what's your current Oats opinion?

~marv
I still like him for scum, tbh. That one's more troubling than TG currently, but as someone with a fondness for being odd/useless/absent on D1 a decent amount of the time when town, he's doing more than that. He actively contributed little/nothing beyond yelling to lynch rayn. He didn't even vote or get involved in any sort of voting discussion until 6 minutes to go. His magical test didn't prevent him from getting more active during parts of N1.

I have a hard time reading someone who had his D1 as town. Just because he acts differently today does not undo his D1. To some extent, I interpret the different action as D1 "Woe is me I so sad I scum again and qqqqqq" and N1/D2 uptick in action as "HAHAHAHA SUCK IT TOWN, WE TOTALLY GOT A NO LYNCH AND NOW THIS GAME IS MORE ENJOYABLE."

It's not the only interpretation, and it's not my whole read on him, but the D1 attitude and play was SO scummy that I don't automatically come around on D2.
Fe fi fo fum.
Prev 1 49 50 51 52 53 134 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:00
XXIX - Group Stage Day 1
TaKeTV 2937
ComeBackTV 759
Ryung 531
TaKeSeN 343
SteadfastSC310
IndyStarCraft 213
Rex124
EnkiAlexander 59
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 531
SteadfastSC 310
IndyStarCraft 213
Rex 124
mouzStarbuck 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37364
Shuttle 1593
Mini 787
BeSt 735
firebathero 673
Soma 528
ToSsGirL 463
Snow 432
Hyuk 417
EffOrt 358
[ Show more ]
actioN 231
Leta 217
Rush 170
Mong 151
Aegong 110
Mind 91
hero 77
Pusan 73
[sc1f]eonzerg 63
soO 56
Free 55
Sharp 39
JYJ 34
scan(afreeca) 30
910 23
Barracks 23
IntoTheRainbow 20
HiyA 20
Bale 17
GoRush 16
Terrorterran 15
Noble 15
Rock 15
zelot 13
Sacsri 12
Dota 2
qojqva2123
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_25
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King81
Westballz43
Other Games
singsing4338
B2W.Neo736
XcaliburYe321
DeMusliM301
byalli287
KnowMe78
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream219
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• escodisco3256
• Michael_bg 12
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3854
• TFBlade875
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 19m
HomeStory Cup
20h 19m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
HomeStory Cup
1d 20h
OSC
1d 22h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S3: W1
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.