On July 24 2013 06:32 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:28 austinmcc wrote:On July 24 2013 06:11 FiveTouch wrote:
Why don't you explain exactly why whatever posts you are referring to have to come from a scum mindset rather than a town one, and maybe we can provide the alternative explanation and/or have a discussion about it?
At the moment you're just rambling like a weirdo and looking pretty bad to me to be honest.
~marv Sigh. You voted for him yesterday, you have the townie read on him now. Maybe you should have read his posts. VE called me scummy early N2, you think I look bad, but neither of you seems to have read ME either. Main posts of TG D1 - + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2013 09:27 TanGeng wrote:I'm not even the most inactive in this game  Fuck! This is going to be bad for town. At this point I'm looking at the most active filter: getmoript. All this stuff looks townie for me right now. On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Votes JJD as pressure/suspicion 5 hours before deadline. Does so after reading getmoript, agress with getmoript. However getmoript had changed his vote a while previously, wasn't voting JJD, and either had said or said later that he got a townread on JJD. Implies either not actually reading filter, or just stopping at a candidate and throwing a vote there. Voting thread was 1 page, TG doesn't even look up to see that getmoript's vote no longer on JJD. On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. When pressured about his vote, says he wanted JJD to show up for discussion. Look at my posts below, but the questions/poking at his above post weren't just "What do you want from JJD?" On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote:I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here: Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 07:48 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 20 2013 15:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne got banned insulting SNM, haha. That's unfortunate.
I'm hoping we can start Day 1 off constructively with lots of discussion and no fluff.
Anyone out there yet? Hey guys look at my townie townieness im talking about being a good townie so i must be a good townie right? It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game. We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum. Focus on the bolded. Likes JJD for scum more than TAA. Those are his scumreads though, or scum-ish reads. On July 22 2013 12:55 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 12:45 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 12:39 FirmTofu wrote:
I would like to remind everyone that this game relies on majority voting. If we actually want a lynch today, we are going to have to consolidate on a single target. Start voting, people. Waiting on friggin' getmoript to post. Actually interested in their thoughts on TanGeng. I found that first post of his scummy, where he voted JJD. I found his absolutely refusal to give reason for it, while commenting on a couple of other things and just repeatedly ducking something like giving reasons for his vote or explaining a comment he made to be mind-boggling. I don't understand it as EITHER faction. He didn't say no, he just consciously avoided specific things and yet answered other questions and poked at me once or twice. I can't understand townies not giving reasoning for their votes/reads, especially when I've seen him do it. I can't understand mafia just straight up going "Nope nope nope, better not acknowledge that someone wants my read here, better just drop my head in the sand." Because it's not a read, yet, and if I'm probing, I am not going to telegraph how I will be probing. It isn't effective. I was clear that it was a pressure vote and I stand by that. Still not seeing where I am dropping head in the sand. Still being pressured. Now there was no read on JJD, just probing. Won't explain how/why. On July 22 2013 13:13 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 13:05 austinmcc wrote:
There's what I'm talking about. Big bolded bits are me asking you what discussion you wanted, why you were voting, whether it bothered you that getmoript, the hydra you read and whose suspicions you were voting off of, had unvoted, etc. etc. etc.
You talked about TAA. You talked about why TAA was also somewhat scummy. You talked about being left off of lists. About inactives. But dear sweet jesus you REFUSED to discuss your actual vote, what you wanted JJD to discuss, etc. etc.
I see I ignored you for the longest time and that was because I was read the thread and giving thought on other things, rather than wanting to reveal what questions I wanted to spring on JJD when he is back that he would want to answer because I had my vote on him. Also I don't think TAA is scum. What he did in his first series of posts can be considered scummy. Still won't reveal anything he wanted JJD to discuss (and never has). Doesn't think TAA scum, despite those 2 being his scumreads before. On July 22 2013 14:14 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 13:38 getmoript wrote:
Convince me you're town. Who do you think is scum and why? My top suspicions are actually Tofu & Rayne. Tofu for trying to opening up ultra townie and then flinging shit around. Rayne is more of a gut feeling for those series of one liners to Tofu instead of real analysis. I wanted to follow up on Rayne but it looks like he's off. Honestly I don't know who to vote at the moment for because the day one voting volume has been so low, it's hard to pick up on anything. Doesn't look like there will be much more before the deadline so: ##vote: FirmTofu Now rayn and Tofu are scum. Mentioned before? Nope. Voted either before? Nope. My thoughts on the deal, won't explain further, but they're honestly right there in my filter and were there on D1, where you guys don't seem to have looked. One thing that I'm unsure on, whether it's scummy or...WHAT it is, is the REFUSAL to answer straight questions posed repeatedly, while answering anything else in posts - + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. On July 22 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote:
My apologies.
Pretty please explain that sentence and your vote. On July 22 2013 10:34 austinmcc wrote:It's late in the evening
She's wondering what clothes to wear
I want to lynch TanGeng
For making this post right here.Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. (1) - Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 09:27 TanGeng wrote:I'm not even the most inactive in this game Fuck! This is going to be bad for town. At this point I'm looking at the most active filter: getmoript. All this stuff looks townie for me right now. Looks at getmoript's filter, doesn't mention all the TAA suspicion, the TAA vote, and apparently even though the voting thread is only one page, doesn't notice that getmoript's vote has moved and nobody is on JJD right now. (2) Initial pressure/suspicion vote with...5ish hours until deadline in a game that TanGeng has mentioned, at multiple points, is low activity. How is he pressuring? (3) Dat reason for voting. Vote him cuz he played conveniently (4) Repetetive "game is dead"/"I am useless"/"LOL I'm not most inactive town" comments. Checked nuclear, much more active there, has thoughts, follows up on thoughts. I don't care if he's busy, that's fine, but that post and vote are my least favorite thing in the thread right now. On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure? On July 22 2013 10:50 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote:
Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it?
From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it. Wut? It's interesting that he made a lurker list, and, assuming marv has been doing the posting, has basically ONLY made the lurker list and contributed little else, yet left you off of it. 48 hours to make a lurker list in a mini and he leaves a dude off. Just interesting for now. You say it's stupid. Anything else? Do you think it's alignment-indicative at all? But more importantly: Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure? On July 22 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote:
Okay. So can we actually get to JJD now? You wanted to vote him so that he'd come in and discuss, because he's been pretty absent.
But you've been absent, and you've mentioned that, and then you're repeatedly not discussing the JJD read/vote.
Is there specific discussion you want from him? Is the convenient timing on the entrance and then leaving a scummy convenience (I think timing CAN be scummy, but it's not always. Feel free to disagree with that if you think all/no convenient timing is scummy)? If you were reading/sheeping geript, do you like JJD for scum more than TAA? On July 22 2013 11:16 austinmcc wrote:
Seriously, i'm interested here. You made that post, you made that vote, I'm trying to figure out why. On July 22 2013 11:35 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote:I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here: On July 21 2013 07:48 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 20 2013 15:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne got banned insulting SNM, haha. That's unfortunate.
I'm hoping we can start Day 1 off constructively with lots of discussion and no fluff.
Anyone out there yet? Hey guys look at my townie townieness im talking about being a good townie so i must be a good townie right? It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game. We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum. As best as I can tell, TAA was calling FirmTofu kind of scummy or useless in that post. You disagree with the assessment and think TAA is just making a fluff post? Also, you like JJD for scum. But you voted him in hopes he gets in here and discusses stuff. What do you want him to discuss? What in particular did JJD do that's scummy? The convenient entry/exit? Something more? On July 22 2013 11:47 austinmcc wrote:
I don't even care anymore. I will give you my firstborn child if you will just answer questions about JJD.
You are here. You are answering all these other things. I will stop asking them. I will give you like...my first THREE kids. I will actually force someone to go through 27 months of labor and 3 deliveries just so that I can take the children and ship them to you if you will just talk about JJD and why he's scummy and what you want him to discuss. On July 22 2013 12:14 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 12:01 TanGeng wrote:
Argh, sometimes sharing these details is just a bad idea because then scum can meta the though process.
Coming into the post, JarJar jumped on Tofu who was the most obvious target and then leaves. This is most likely not indicative of scum as townies seem more likely to do it. But it does provide a quick way to try to pick up on some scum tells. The details that I'm asking for are...for you to explain why you were voting someone and comments you've made about them. I look at nuclear and I see posts where you lay out a thought process, reason through something, reach a conclusion. + Show Spoiler +On July 07 2013 19:12 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 18:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:-snip- On July 07 2013 10:19 austinmcc wrote:On July 07 2013 09:56 austinmcc wrote:
The post-chez stuff is shitting up the thread but doing so in a very obvious and very...wrong way. If he's scum and just trying to get chez nuked, that seems silly AND is going to put a target on his head if chez were town (OMG CHEZ NUKED TOWN, NUKE CHEZ, OMG CHEZ WAS TOWN....NUKE ME?).
Therefore, I don't want to lynch him right now. Does this make sense, MZ? If he were scum, he's either trying to sac chez for credit or he's trying to get someone to nuke town chez for nuking town xat. (Or both are scum and then rayn wouldn't be doing this probs, because he'd look bad/odd when xat flipped) What, specifically, are you seeing in terms of him going from defensive --> shitting, and why does it give you a scumread? This is a good question and i want it answered too. Because i have not been defensive and i have not been shitting the thread. About Chezinu and his nuke: If Chezinu is town: - Nuke is real: Why would you nuke a player who is most likely town? If you think he is mafia, why would you not give reasons for your nuke? - Nuke is a dud or smth: Why would you nuke a player who is most likely town? Best case scenario is that nothing happens at the deadline, worst case scenario is town uses anti-nuke or something to stop the nuke, Chezinu get's lynched. Chezinu is crazy, but he is not stupid. Therefore i do not see a reason for him to nuke a player i see most likely to be town at this point. This also is Chezinu's nuke. If mafia used Chez's post as a cover to launch a silent nuke, he would have said that's the case already. If Chezinu is mafia: - Nuke is real and Chezinu launched it: Makes people go "no you can't be mafia for nuking at this point" like you all are. Townie dies. Profit! - Nuke is real and Chezinu's scumbuddy launched it: What i said before, but even better. If you get lynched for it, you don't lose the guy who is nuking. Double profit! - Nuke is a dud or smth: Make town to possibly waste anti-nuke or something to stop the "nuke". There are a lot of upsides in launching a nuke at this point for mafia. If Xatalos is mafia, launcing a dud nuke on your scumbuddy is brilliant. Regardless of Xatalos' affiliation you confuse the thread. There is zero benefit launching a nuke as town, even if you believed that Xatalos is mafia, all you can do is possibly fuck up town's play and sidetrack us to talk about something that is not relevant at all. Unless Chezinu outs his reasoning for nuking Xatalos, i'm keeping my vote on him. And no, insanity is not a reason. If Chezinu was Drazerk i could buy that, but he is not. He is a smart guy who is in some twisted way good at this shit. If someone disagrees with me, tell me where i am wrong. It's not that we've cleared Chezinu. In fact, he's still being looked at fairly hard. It's just that I'm not on board for immediate action. For town play, it's bad town play. But for scum play, it's bad too, because right now town has no information or leads to go on and doing this sort of thing immediately gives town a lead and potential for better analysis. At this point, I'm willing to wait for Chezinu's reasoning or for Xatalos's flip before acting on it. On July 08 2013 22:38 TanGeng wrote:
Ahh I see the issue. Yes, I was discussing the possibility that inactives may have suicided, although there are only a few players that might fall into that category now.
My thought process is that if there are many of Day 1 nukes, the scum could have one, and the play from johnnywup makes sense from the view point of a scum needing to fire nukes and arguing OMGUS on his lynch "bandwagon" and looking for any ground to justify someone to nuke. All his scumhunting logic is terrible. "2 or 3 scum going to bandwagon together on the first day?" That's highly unlikely. Scum are more likely to distance themselves from each other to sow confusion rather than appear as a bloc to the community. Scum day one distance each other.
If multiple nukes do not explode, we're left with either a true deadline claim and town or scum or a false deadline claim and scum from one person (and maybe Chez - but Chez fired almost immediately so that might be even earlier of a deadline). Although it is speculation, I don't think lonely scum Day 1 deadline is likely at all in the setup and I'm eliminating putting aside that possibility. A false claim strategy from scum just doesn't make any sense, and I don't see them pulling it off.
That leaves with only the town possibility.
On July 09 2013 06:07 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 09 2013 05:43 TanGeng wrote:
Ok now 9 for ON and 8 for Dandel And what's your stance on this lynch? My stance on this lynch is let ON calm down and give a counterargument. There's just huge bandwagoning at the moment. At first examination ON's blue role is ridiculous but it actually falls inline with the amount of power that other blue roles have for example Chezinu/johnnywup Day 1 nukes are more mayhem roles. While Xatalos's must be nuked and become radiation infector is a latent one that may never be triggered. The other ones, one redirect (hidden) and single shoot down (Oatsmaster) are far more powerful. (We also apparently have the tried and true Medic in NG.) I see ON's claim in line with Xatalos's. It's marginal role but the claim is well within the realm of possibilities. Town makes bad posts. Town often makes scummy posts. Whatever. I'm seeking the details to try and determine why you voted a dude you voted, regardless of any meta, because your reasons for voting are important. So again, let me ask some very specific things. And offer babies. Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. What are you hoping to discuss? Do you have any questions for him? Is there a specific read you want to see from him? Your vote was pressure/suspicion, so what is it that you want to see from him, and how does it help you read him? Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 12:01 TanGeng wrote:
Argh, sometimes sharing these details is just a bad idea because then scum can meta the though process.
Coming into the post, JarJar jumped on Tofu who was the most obvious target and then leaves. This is most likely not indicative of scum as townies seem more likely to do it. But it does provide a quick way to try to pick up on some scum tells. If JJD's jumping on and leaving is "most likely not indicative of scum," then why did you vote him? On July 22 2013 13:05 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 12:55 TanGeng wrote:On July 22 2013 12:45 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 12:39 FirmTofu wrote:
I would like to remind everyone that this game relies on majority voting. If we actually want a lynch today, we are going to have to consolidate on a single target. Start voting, people. Waiting on friggin' getmoript to post. Actually interested in their thoughts on TanGeng. I found that first post of his scummy, where he voted JJD. I found his absolutely refusal to give reason for it, while commenting on a couple of other things and just repeatedly ducking something like giving reasons for his vote or explaining a comment he made to be mind-boggling. I don't understand it as EITHER faction. He didn't say no, he just consciously avoided specific things and yet answered other questions and poked at me once or twice. I can't understand townies not giving reasoning for their votes/reads, especially when I've seen him do it. I can't understand mafia just straight up going "Nope nope nope, better not acknowledge that someone wants my read here, better just drop my head in the sand." Because it's not a read, yet, and if I'm probing, I am not going to telegraph how I will be probing. It isn't effective. I was clear that it was a pressure vote and I stand by that. Still not seeing where I am dropping head in the sand. + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit.
On July 22 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote:
My apologies.
Pretty please explain that sentence and your vote. On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote:
Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it?
From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it. On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure? On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote:
Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it?
From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it. On July 22 2013 10:50 austinmcc wrote:Wut? It's interesting that he made a lurker list, and, assuming marv has been doing the posting, has basically ONLY made the lurker list and contributed little else, yet left you off of it. 48 hours to make a lurker list in a mini and he leaves a dude off. Just interesting for now. You say it's stupid. Anything else? Do you think it's alignment-indicative at all? But more importantly:On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit. HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping. What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure? On July 22 2013 11:03 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 10:50 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote:
Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it?
From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it. Wut? It's interesting that he made a lurker list, and, assuming marv has been doing the posting, has basically ONLY made the lurker list and contributed little else, yet left you off of it. 48 hours to make a lurker list in a mini and he leaves a dude off. Just interesting for now. You say it's stupid. Anything else? Do you think it's alignment-indicative at all? Looking at the post timing, it wasn't that bad of any omission at the time. I don't see it as alignment indicative. On July 22 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote:
Okay. So can we actually get to JJD now? You wanted to vote him so that he'd come in and discuss, because he's been pretty absent.
But you've been absent, and you've mentioned that, and then you're repeatedly not discussing the JJD read/vote.
Is there specific discussion you want from him? Is the convenient timing on the entrance and then leaving a scummy convenience (I think timing CAN be scummy, but it's not always. Feel free to disagree with that if you think all/no convenient timing is scummy)? If you were reading/sheeping geript, do you like JJD for scum more than TAA? On July 22 2013 11:16 austinmcc wrote:
Seriously, i'm interested here. You made that post, you made that vote, I'm trying to figure out why. On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote:I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here: Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 07:48 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 20 2013 15:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne got banned insulting SNM, haha. That's unfortunate.
I'm hoping we can start Day 1 off constructively with lots of discussion and no fluff.
Anyone out there yet? Hey guys look at my townie townieness im talking about being a good townie so i must be a good townie right? It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game. We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum. On July 22 2013 11:35 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote:I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here: On July 21 2013 07:48 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 20 2013 15:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne got banned insulting SNM, haha. That's unfortunate.
I'm hoping we can start Day 1 off constructively with lots of discussion and no fluff.
Anyone out there yet? Hey guys look at my townie townieness im talking about being a good townie so i must be a good townie right? It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game. We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum. As best as I can tell, TAA was calling FirmTofu kind of scummy or useless in that post. You disagree with the assessment and think TAA is just making a fluff post? Also, you like JJD for scum. But you voted him in hopes he gets in here and discusses stuff. What do you want him to discuss? What in particular did JJD do that's scummy? The convenient entry/exit? Something more? On July 22 2013 11:47 austinmcc wrote:
I don't even care anymore. I will give you my firstborn child if you will just answer questions about JJD.
You are here. You are answering all these other things. I will stop asking them. I will give you like...my first THREE kids. I will actually force someone to go through 27 months of labor and 3 deliveries just so that I can take the children and ship them to you if you will just talk about JJD and why he's scummy and what you want him to discuss. There's what I'm talking about. Big bolded bits are me asking you what discussion you wanted, why you were voting, whether it bothered you that getmoript, the hydra you read and whose suspicions you were voting off of, had unvoted, etc. etc. etc. You talked about TAA. You talked about why TAA was also somewhat scummy. You talked about being left off of lists. About inactives. But dear sweet jesus you REFUSED to discuss your actual vote, what you wanted JJD to discuss, etc. etc. No, you don't get to pull this bullshit on me austin. I just browsed some of those posts, and they are you describing what Tangeng posted and saying they were scummy. Fine. I want to know exactly what posts HAVE to be from a scum mindset. You just post useless blurb all over the place. Create NEW content on exactly which posts you can't reconcile with a townie-TG. You've created a narrative, but I want to know exactly what part of your narrative you find so convincing, else it's just a narrative. ~marv P.S. he probably doesn't answer your questions because they're lost in dense blurb. The vote specifically. See the very first post there, what set everything off. The ... shifting reads, these three posts.On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote:I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here: Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 07:48 TheAwesomeAll wrote:On July 20 2013 15:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne got banned insulting SNM, haha. That's unfortunate.
I'm hoping we can start Day 1 off constructively with lots of discussion and no fluff.
Anyone out there yet? Hey guys look at my townie townieness im talking about being a good townie so i must be a good townie right? It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game. We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum. I'm scummy on JJD. Here's a scummy post from TAA but I don't think he's scum.
On July 22 2013 12:55 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 12:45 austinmcc wrote:On July 22 2013 12:39 FirmTofu wrote:
I would like to remind everyone that this game relies on majority voting. If we actually want a lynch today, we are going to have to consolidate on a single target. Start voting, people. Waiting on friggin' getmoript to post. Actually interested in their thoughts on TanGeng. I found that first post of his scummy, where he voted JJD. I found his absolutely refusal to give reason for it, while commenting on a couple of other things and just repeatedly ducking something like giving reasons for his vote or explaining a comment he made to be mind-boggling. I don't understand it as EITHER faction. He didn't say no, he just consciously avoided specific things and yet answered other questions and poked at me once or twice. I can't understand townies not giving reasoning for their votes/reads, especially when I've seen him do it. I can't understand mafia just straight up going "Nope nope nope, better not acknowledge that someone wants my read here, better just drop my head in the sand." Because it's not a read, yet, and if I'm probing, I am not going to telegraph how I will be probing. It isn't effective. I was clear that it was a pressure vote and I stand by that. Still not seeing where I am dropping head in the sand. There was no read yet (it's now 2 hours to lynch and there are no reads). He was just probing.
On July 22 2013 14:14 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 13:38 getmoript wrote:
Convince me you're town. Who do you think is scum and why? My top suspicions are actually Tofu & Rayne. Tofu for trying to opening up ultra townie and then flinging shit around. Rayne is more of a gut feeling for those series of one liners to Tofu instead of real analysis. I wanted to follow up on Rayne but it looks like he's off. Honestly I don't know who to vote at the moment for because the day one voting volume has been so low, it's hard to pick up on anything. Doesn't look like there will be much more before the deadline so: ##vote: FirmTofu 1:15 later, Tofu and rayn are top suspicions. Out of pretty much nowhere.
His original vote was sheeping a dude who wasn't even scummy on someone anymore and wasn't voting them, for REALLY bad reasons, ESPECIALLY if he had actual scumreads in tofu and rayn. He went from scummy on JJD to no read and scummy on these other bros.
Those are the main posts. I apologize for presuming that you read the filter of the dude you guys voted for. Yeah, there's plenty of crap in there, but there are very explicit questions, and promises of multiple children for explanations.
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