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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On July 24 2013 07:25 austinmcc wrote:
I would never ever ever ever check myself even if I was explicitly told I didn't know sanity.
I dunno, it's just not how I would try to puzzle that one out. I would focus on getting checks first, then figuring out whether they were trustworthy second, based on either flips or always getting red or whatever.
I can understand wanting to confirm sanity, it's just an odd choice from my point of view, because I would value MOAR CHECKS over sanity, whereas you are saying you valued sanity over checks.
This is an interesting perspective. PLEASE remind me about it if we're both alive Day 3.
~marv
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On July 24 2013 07:24 FiveTouch wrote:
Conclusion on Cora, getmo?
Seems non-towny, but I don't think it makes him scum. Like the amount of time to process reasoning to fake claim there as scum is inordinate to me. Looks instinctive. I'd guess town but I think Cora's fakeclaimed before in NMM37
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Well remember austin, I replace in and went to sleep 3 hours later. I didn't have very many concrete reads, so I thought I'd just check sanity.
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On July 24 2013 07:27 getmoript wrote:Seems non-towny, but I don't think it makes him scum. Like the amount of time to process reasoning to fake claim there as scum is inordinate to me. Looks instinctive. I'd guess town but I think Cora's fakeclaimed before in NMM37
OH MY GOD I'M DROWNING IN SYRUP
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OMG I have a 12 page filter
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On July 24 2013 07:27 cDgCorazon wrote:
Well remember austin, I replace in and went to sleep 3 hours later. I didn't have very many concrete reads, so I thought I'd just check sanity. Yeah, that is slightly wonky, but still. You give me a blue PM, I'm gonna DO stuff with it. Like I read that I'm a cop, whether role or alignment or anything else, I'm immediately gonna try and use my role to get info on someone else.
To me, checking yourself is basically NOT using your role for a night. Yes, it may help you with the side issue of sanity, but you're explicitly passing up a check on another person. I don't think I've seen anyone check themselves evurr as the first check.
I don't think it's inexplicable. I can understand working on a short timeframe. But the mindset that you are saying you had is just at odds with the mindset that I would have the moment I read anything that sounded like a DT PM. All I want to do is get as much bonus info on other people as possible, to try and make my votes/reads/cases/etc. better. Sanity will play out as the game progresses.
I still don't think someone fake claims ROLE cop as scum, though.
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@5T Can you guys take a look at Tofu's filter and tell me what you think again. I'm starting to think that's why Rayn was killeed
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
I actually had that thought too when I filtered rayn G...let me go take a look again.
-VE
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Sanya12364 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:21 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
claiming detective instead of making a case is cheating
So TAA's total response to the Detective is to yell "Cheater?" followed by total silence.
Regardless of truthfulness of Getmoript's DT roleclaim, this is more than damning.
##vote: TheAwesomeAll
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On July 24 2013 07:27 getmoript wrote:Seems non-towny, but I don't think it makes him scum. Like the amount of time to process reasoning to fake claim there as scum is inordinate to me. Looks instinctive. I'd guess town but I think Cora's fakeclaimed before in NMM37
I was town in NMM37...what the hell are you talking about?
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Sanya12364 Posts
On July 24 2013 07:40 cDgCorazon wrote:
I was town in NMM37...what the hell are you talking about?
When in doubt chalk it up to old-age and senility.
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+ Show Spoiler [kirby's timeline] +On July 22 2013 11:22 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, I'm on a train back and it has internet. I've got 2 hours of power left, so lets see how much scumhunting I can do in that time.
I've read the thread, and I got slight scumreads on rayn and TAA. I'm gonna dive their filters now and see if I was just imagining it.
If you want me to look at something in particular, let me know. I kinda skimmed the thread, so I might've missed a bit. Really, sorry, this was a hectic and awesome trip, but I'll be back to normal activity on monday. His first scum reads are rayn and TAA. This is important to keep in mind going forward. On July 22 2013 11:52 jrkirby wrote:
Well, I read rayn, TAA, and jarjar. Unfortunately, none of them seem extremely scummy on second look. I'm gonna check firmtofu's filter and see if rayn has anything there.
God, I'm so bad at seeing scum until the votes come in. He returns 30 minutes later with this post that basically says he has no scumreads now. He also is making excuses for his bad play by downplaying his "mistakes" as newb town. Why does he have such an apologetic tone to all his posts? So far, he has contributed nothing to the thread. On July 22 2013 12:03 jrkirby wrote:Oh, wow, firmtofu looks to have it right on oatsmaster. oats is not saying anything useful: Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 16:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
nonononono
Dont lynch me.
Why are we even talking about lurkers when there is only like 7 pages???
And then he says: Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 10:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
lynch ryaryrayrayrayryan.
It sucks that whenever Im here, no one fucking talks.
Anyway rayn is scum. Game is ez.
cant be arsed with voting for now. . This is just terrible, no reasoning behind his rayn vote. I could be wrong, but I think firmtofu had his vote on rayn then, which makes it double scummy. Anyway, till oats explains himself, my vote is on him. ##Vote: Oatsmaster He then buddies me to push a lynch on Oats. Seems convenient. On July 23 2013 02:01 jrkirby wrote:
Oh shit, the train ended and I was stuck without internet on a bus for the next 8 hours, then I slept a bit, and I didn't get to look over TG's case. But I am now back home and can start looking at the thread. At this moment I am not caught up with the thread. He says he will look into TG and will look at the thread. He NEVER fulfills this promise, making it extremely likely that TG and kirby are on a scumteam together and kirby faked AFKness in order to avoid voting him. On July 23 2013 04:11 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, I read the thread, and I still think oats is scum. But shit... I kinda caused a no lynch to happen. Really sorry guys. If only I had read tangeng's filter faster. I still haven't read it, but I guess I got plenty of time to do that now.
I have even more scumread on oats than I did before. I'm not sure about DrH, I'd prefer to see how he plays tonight and tomorrow before I come to a conclusion on him. Another apologetic post. He again pushes for an Oats lynch, but still hasn't made a post justifying why. On July 23 2013 06:47 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 23 2013 06:26 jrkirby wrote:
I don't see anything that's a red flag yet, but Zephirdd didn't post at all day 1 right? So I don't have enough to go off of yet. That's pretty interesting because you semmed to have 2 scumreads on D1... What's changed? What do you mean? I still think Oats is scum, and I still haven't gotten to tangengs filter. I can't spend too much time on this at work, cause I kinda also gotta get work done  ANOTHER post apologizing that he hasn't even looked at TG. This is getting repetitive...
I think kirby made the decision to kill rayn specifically to implicate Oats as evidenced by this post right after Night 1 ended.
On July 23 2013 15:19 jrkirby wrote:
So the guy oatsmaster wanted dead is dead, hmmm. If oatsmaster were really taking this seriously, I might think this a sign that he's not scum. But he's not, so I still think that he's scum.
This post solidifies my scumread of jrkirby.
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On July 24 2013 07:22 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote:
I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him. Ok I'm with you... What in the actual fuck?
Sorry, I meant CDG not TAA. These acronyms are confusing the fuck out of me.
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On July 24 2013 07:40 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:27 getmoript wrote:On July 24 2013 07:24 FiveTouch wrote:
Conclusion on Cora, getmo? Seems non-towny, but I don't think it makes him scum. Like the amount of time to process reasoning to fake claim there as scum is inordinate to me. Looks instinctive. I'd guess town but I think Cora's fakeclaimed before in NMM37 I was town in NMM37...what the hell are you talking about?
Weren't you scum in one of the newbies? Or was I thinking of someone else? Like one of the ones before the one where we played, I think scum won after you got lynched for no good reason.
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On July 24 2013 07:46 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:40 cDgCorazon wrote:On July 24 2013 07:27 getmoript wrote:On July 24 2013 07:24 FiveTouch wrote:
Conclusion on Cora, getmo? Seems non-towny, but I don't think it makes him scum. Like the amount of time to process reasoning to fake claim there as scum is inordinate to me. Looks instinctive. I'd guess town but I think Cora's fakeclaimed before in NMM37 I was town in NMM37...what the hell are you talking about? Weren't you scum in one of the newbies? Or was I thinking of someone else? Like one of the ones before the one where we played, I think scum won after you got lynched for no good reason.
No wait I remember now. You claimed blue and weren't counterclaimed and were lynched. That was it right?
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Ok, like Tofu is confirmed scum for me right now.
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On July 24 2013 07:46 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:40 cDgCorazon wrote:On July 24 2013 07:27 getmoript wrote:On July 24 2013 07:24 FiveTouch wrote:
Conclusion on Cora, getmo? Seems non-towny, but I don't think it makes him scum. Like the amount of time to process reasoning to fake claim there as scum is inordinate to me. Looks instinctive. I'd guess town but I think Cora's fakeclaimed before in NMM37 I was town in NMM37...what the hell are you talking about? Weren't you scum in one of the newbies? Or was I thinking of someone else? Like one of the ones before the one where we played, I think scum won after you got lynched for no good reason.
NMM 33...me and 2 inactive scum and I survived until I had to fakeclaim rb cause I'm dumb.
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I'm not going to make a quoted point-by-point post about cDg because my scumread is not as strong as the other two.
His conversation with Oats made me think he was scummy because of how irrational his approach was. I still don't understand why you would check yourself for sanity when it barely tells you anything. You should be checking others, not yourself. You can figure out whether you're sane based on their flips and you get a plethora of useful information.
While I think getmoript may be lying about his claim, I think he is more likely to be a VT pushing a strong scum read in TAA.
I cannot think of a single good reason why cDg would claim as town given a getmoript claim unless he started to speculate upon roles.
That being said, I would much prefer to lynch jrkirby or TG today. I think we should hold of on lynching potential blues unless we are certain that one of them is scum.
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I'm more interested in lynching the red check. But that's just me.
-VE
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This got really, really odd.
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