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On July 24 2013 08:20 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 08:13 FirmTofu wrote:
This post does not reflect well upon TAA, I totally agree. However, I don't think it makes him 100% scum either. He could be newb town that doesn't feel like defending himself in a situation where it's his word against getmoript's.
And how did you react in Sicilian? Was you're initial reaction like, "Awww man, claiming is cheetor hax" or were you all like, "WTF. I'm Town. Maybe I could be miller. Here's my claim. Herpaderp." Dude puts no effort in this game, looks scummy as hell. You admit he's looks scummy for stuff. You completely disbelieve the most active, thread driving, attention whoring, asshole, douchebag in the thread is town AND question his roleclaim because random bs reason. This is inexplicable if you're town.
I think you are confused about where I stand. I have you down as solid town and your claim hasn't changed my read at all. Please read my posts again. Just because I think you lying is a possibility doesn't mean I think you lied as scum.
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On July 24 2013 08:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Of course, this is all dependent on the idea that you are very confident in your scum read of TAA.
If I was very confident in my TAA read then why didn't I push it harder D1? Why would I allow the switch to NG?
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More importantly. If I'm town, what purpose does it serve to break up the stuff on Cora/etc. just to push the lynch I want to push? Like why wouldn't I let it die down then claim?
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ewbop then fake claim?
My point is that it serves no purpose. I'd be ruining good positive discussion which this thread needs just to push a lynch I want to push but am too lazy to make a big case on? I don't get it. I don't understand why you could imagine this is a fake claim.
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You are assuming I think you are completely rational. Of course you fakeclaiming is not an optimal decision. It is a decision that a town player would be tempted to make, but ultimately does not serve the best interest of town.
When I said it is possible that you fakeclaimed, it was because I was skeptical of how rational your play would be. You have raged plenty of times in the thread and you seem somewhat reliant on your emotions. If I thought you were rational, I wouldn't have said you fakeclaimed.
You are wasting your time. I'm town and I'm pretty sure you're town. Start convincing me that TAA is scum instead of asking me stupid questions.
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He fucking claimed scum. He's been totally inactive. The 'shots' he's taken have been completely opportunistic. Have you even read his filter?
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On July 24 2013 08:44 getmoript wrote:
He fucking claimed scum. He's been totally inactive. The 'shots' he's taken have been completely opportunistic. Have you even read his filter?
Yes, I have read his filter. Inactivity is not necessarily alignment indicative. Can you make a sophisticated case against him please?
I would like these posts specifically to be addressed.
On July 23 2013 20:09 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
rayns post mortem.
Main thing rayne was concerned with day 1 was fighting with firmtofu, calling each other scum.
Austincc thought rayn was town whereas oats was convinced rayn was scum.
Tangeng joined the the rayn is scum train of thought later, but wasnt half as convinced as rayn was.
Speculation: id guess oats is town because it would be really stupid to tunnel some townie and then shoot him
super speculation: oats might be vigi and shot rayne but i dont know where the mafia killpower went then.
Alternatively firmtofu might have been scum who didnt like the pressure. Happy wifom everyone
On July 23 2013 22:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
onegu i didnt respond to your case because its a very weak one. The first post you quoted i called firmtofu out for pretending to be very productive(or willing to be very productive) while not doing anything. That isnt a scum tell? in my book it is.
The latter post i tried to show what a facade getmoript was pulling, going full bad cop-good cop on us this game. His fake emotions and empty posts seemed scummy to me, really reminiscent of how iGrok played in a newbie mafia game. Player with a ton of experience making fluffy posts and talking a ton. He has kinda stopped making the flufposts so it mightve been just part of his day1 play. Still thinking about this one though.
On July 24 2013 06:20 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Also i disagree with the whole "TG claimed RB so hes not scum" train. I think if you thought he was scum D1 you should still think thats the case, since claiming RB obviously implies youre some kind of blue role (yes even despite VT roleclaims on D1) which is exactly what a desperate scum will do to make it another day.
I think claiming RB is very much a null tell, it shouldnt change your position on TG too much.
Thanks, getmoript.
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Also, sign the posts. I'm assuming I'm talking to geript, but I'm not entirely sure.
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FT, why would TAA get framed? He wasnt like under any pressure at all.
So therefore he wasnt framed. So miller or scum. Millers normally dont happen in closed setup games so then TAA is scum or geript is fakeclaiming for no fucking reason.
Which one is more likely?
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Ugh.
Not entirely sure I would have wanted geript to claim if I was around but whatever.
Tofu what in the actual fuck are you doing?
Your play is so frigging ODD this game.
I noticed this right from the beginning of the game and I have no idea what's up with you. Geript originally said you're town and having an 'off' game but fuck, man. You're being just weird and unnecessarily obtuse.
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^^^^Wave
Will be around a little now, then probably later tonight. Gonna go see Specific Rim.
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Hi guys since im prolly not gonna see the light of another day im gonna tell my role and such.
I am the roleblocker! I blocked the role of TG night 1 because he barely escaped the lynch and i assumed he was scum. Because of this i also made the following post:
On July 24 2013 06:20 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Also i disagree with the whole "TG claimed RB so hes not scum" train. I think if you thought he was scum D1 you should still think thats the case, since claiming RB obviously implies youre some kind of blue role (yes even despite VT roleclaims on D1) which is exactly what a desperate scum will do to make it another day.
I think claiming RB is very much a null tell, it shouldnt change your position on TG too much.
i didnt want people to draw huge conclusions from the TG RB since i simply RBed him because he was considered most likely to be scum. Its kinda late to do damage control and such but w/e.
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also @ oats, i was under considerable tunneling from 5touch and getmoript because i suggested they might notve been town day 1.
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lolwut
town roleblocker
Can I re-emphasize how stupid this game is? Just lynch TAA and be done with it.
-wave
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only 1 dead night one, i like to think i blocked some mafia thing
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On July 24 2013 09:30 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
only 1 dead night one, i like to think i blocked some mafia thing
It's a mini.
Have you played (the game of) mafia before?
Just curious.
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a couple of times, meta changed a ton though
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scum in minis have 1 kp.
man.... It makes no sense for scum to RB TG because he already claimed VT and somehow didnt get lynched.
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On July 24 2013 09:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
man.... It makes no sense for scum to RB TG because he already claimed VT and somehow didnt get lynched.
So? he's probably bluehunting, hoping for the counter.
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dont you think i wouldve claimed something more exiting like a vigilante then? there are 2 detective claims already
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