EPT[T] Nuclear Winter Mafia - Page 133
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:56 strongandbig wrote: mafia did redirect the wagon to originalname No, town did that because the Dandel wagon had too many inconsistencies. I still think that anyone who switched from Dandel to ON comes off the worst from this. There was very little reason to do that unless you were apathetic about the lynch. If my theory is correct, a good many people on the Dandel wagon are scum and a few people that hammered ON are possible scum. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:59 Stutters695 wrote: I make nukes that may or may not be duds. It's rngd or some shit. I don't understand the abbreviation. Can you post your role pm? When do you make nukes? When can you deliver them to others? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 13 2013 04:00 FirmTofu wrote: No, town did that because the Dandel wagon had too many inconsistencies. I still think that anyone who switched from Dandel to ON comes off the worst from this. There was very little reason to do that unless you were apathetic about the lynch. If my theory is correct, a good many people on the Dandel wagon are scum and a few people that hammered ON are possible scum. LOL. What inconsistensies? I showed proof of Dandel himself describing his scumgame exactly as he played it this game. There were ZERO inconsistensies. People are easily swayed by bullshit, that's all. Could have been town or scum bullshit for all I know. I would agree that there were likely scum on both wagons though. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On July 13 2013 04:02 FirmTofu wrote: I don't understand the abbreviation. Can you post your role pm? When do you make nukes? When can you deliver them to others? random number generated. I'd still like to see the role PM though | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:50 johnnywup wrote: saying that in thread almost guarantees you die. Why would you do that? :| I mean I think it's likely you'd die anyways but this almost guarantees it It was already evident from what I said earlier, just explained it to him. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:51 FirmTofu wrote: @xatalos What do you think of the theory that Dandel told most of his scum team to bus him day 1 because he didn't feel like playing? I'm starting to think this is exactly what happened. It is evidence by the fact that Dandel nor XigXag ever put up a decent fight defending themselves. There were plenty of lukers, isn't it odd that the one lurker who is mafia gets picked on first? Couldn't mafia relatively easily redirect the wagon to another lurker before it picked up steam? I'm thinkin that the reason mafia never redirected the wagon was because they wanted Dandel dead to establish themselves as part of a wagon that flipped scum. I wouldn't find it odd at all if some of the scum were bussing DI (definitely not all of them though, makes no sense to connect your team together like that). | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On July 13 2013 04:40 johnnywup wrote: I know you said it earlier but it just hurts your chances of surviving xata Inevitable :/ I was PM'd that I got a nuke, I mentioned it. Then I got PM'd that I don't have a nuke yet... Well, I'm screwed. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 13 2013 05:13 johnnywup wrote: Wow man gumshoe, you're really defending yourself well. I think I might have to take you off my scumreads /s The issue at hand is there's nothing to defend, although in most cases this degree of inactivity is neutral, in my case it is not. There is precedent that I cannot deny. Anyone you'd like me to take a gander at? | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On July 13 2013 04:06 johnnywup wrote: random number generated. I'd still like to see the role PM though You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Especially that post that geript made about "superpowers" and that there was only 1 out of 5 possibilities that the nuke landing would be good for town. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 13 2013 05:32 Koshi wrote: Stutters and gumshoe. Would you two want to look at the last post I made? Nobody wants to interact with me about it. Is this a bad town play in your eyes or a scum play? Especially that post that geript made about "superpowers" and that there was only 1 out of 5 possibilities that the nuke landing would be good for town. I'd love too ( : just gonna finish the last 30 pages On an unrelated note, I believe the power to become irradiated is a townie ability, because I don't see why scum would need that power in any way along side theyre existing kp. Does that mean scum have a monopoly on radiation nukes? I don't think so, rather I imagine a few scum players and a few town players posses them. Also can we send an irradiated nuke at whoever claimed irradiated townie? Have we already? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
You choose a nuke type, with no mention of nuke types in the PM. Indicates both that you've had knowledge of different types of nukes AND that you're altering/omitting things from your PM. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 13 2013 03:49 Koshi wrote: 1) What happened between shooting down the nuke to prevent jampi dieing and you voting for jampi getting lynched? 2) Why didn't you shoot down the nukes for Ace and Xatalos? Do you think Xatalos and Ace are scummy/were scummy on the moment the nuke was flying towards them? 3) Do you believe GM is scum? 4) Do you still believe that taking down that nuke was a good idea? If not, when did you change your mind? I believe that you made not-logical steps. + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2013 03:58 geript wrote: Because I'm going to shoot it down. Here's the full situation with Jampi: 1. He's town and the nuke lands. Yay he's town!!! However, we have an infinite vig or something akin to it, but it's in the hands of a lurky bad player. That's bad news bears. 2. He's town and I shoot the nuke down. Yay he's town!!! But we don't have to deal with him gaining powers. 3. He's scum and the nuke lands. YAY he fake claimed and got shot in the face!!!! 4. He's scum and the nuke lands but makes him awesome. BOOOOH we've just superpowered scum. 5. He's scum and the gets shot down. We don't know he's scum, but he's easily lynchable and don't superpower him. Of the situations where the nuke lands, only 1 is good for us and I don't think Jampi was fake claiming. Of the situations where the nuke doesn't land, all of them are better for us. Pretty simple really. And yes, I'm assuming all nukes are radiation nukes. As a matter of fact: ##defend jampidampi Let's get a lynch contest going. About this post. 1. What are you saying here? If the nukes fall or not we still have an infinite vig or something akin to it... 2. You are happy that we don't have to deal with a town with superpowers? This is a reason to let the nuke fall. 3. that would be why you don't defend him. Another reason to let the nuke fall. 4. The only reason I read why you would shoot the nuke. What superpower were you expecting? 5. This would be a reason to let the nuke fall. Am I missing the point? This post just reeks of scum talking points. There's nothing here that isn't covered by reading my filter... You know which anyone who makes a case against me should do in full. But lets cover why these are scum type empty questions: 1. At no point was I trying to specifically save Jampi. Rather, I wanted to prevent the nuke because it gives us more information via a competitive lynch and because in only 1 scenario out of 5 did not shooting it down end up negatively. As for why I ended up voting Jampi... That is in my filter and posted. Wish I hadn't switched as I could've made the right play and lynched scum. Oh well 2. Why do I need to shoot down every nuke? How is this answer in any way important? Does it make me scum for wanting to use my power late in the day to get a better read on people by how the respond to the nuke? Basically he's trying to insinuate that I'm not town because of who I've chosen, or not chosen, to save but not looked at when and how I e considered using my power. 3. Should be pretty obvious that maju is scum now. Are you not suspicious of maju? 4. Again, why does this have anything to do with scum hunting? How does the fact that it was the right play to make and I did it make me scum? It doesn't. Just worthless fluff discussion. This last section is rather hysterical. Before the nuke lands I don't know Jampi's alignment. If he's town, then I'm saving him or preventing us from having to deal with a bad player with a seemingly super powered role. In the situation you're proposing, you saying that I'm scum with maju and know his nuke was a "radiation nuke." If that's the case then why wouldn't I hard bus Maju like I fucking love to do. I fucking love to bus. Tldr Koshi wants to point to one specific thing that magically makes me scum. There's no reasoning here for me to be scum. None whatsoever. There's not even a direction in this post. My filter is what 8-10 pages and there's 1 specific action he's solely focusing on??? That's not towny. Look at how Rayn and I made peace with each other... We continued to evaluate and ditched old bad assumptions and moved on as new information came to light. This doesn't look like any attempt to evaluate me from any perspective. | ||
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