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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 12 2013 16:59 GMT
#2621
A few things to note:
1. Maju should be lynched not nuked -- this prevents anyone from defending him and a necessary late vote scramble.
2. Why Ace didn't launch that shit immediately after the night post is beyond me. He could be lying about a nuke, he could be scum, anything is possible
3. I think Rayn was right on track. This would be like the second time he's nailed a bunch of scum early.
4. I'll post more tonight but will have limited access later this weekend.
5. The people who are calling me scum are hilarious. Koshi specifically looks worse for this because they're finding superficial reasons to think me scum and not following the points to their conclusion.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 12 2013 17:00 GMT
#2622
On July 13 2013 01:59 geript wrote:
A few things to note:
1. Maju should be lynched not nuked -- this prevents anyone from defending him and a necessary late vote scramble.
2. Why Ace didn't launch that shit immediately after the night post is beyond me. He could be lying about a nuke, he could be scum, anything is possible
3. I think Rayn was right on track. This would be like the second time he's nailed a bunch of scum early.
4. I'll post more tonight but will have limited access later this weekend.
5. The people who are calling me scum are hilarious. Koshi specifically looks worse for this because they're finding superficial reasons to think me scum and not following the points to their conclusion.

I have a few things to note, too. Before deadline though.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 12 2013 17:21 GMT
#2623
geript may have done dumb stuff but I'm pretty sure he's town. Just look at his previous game (PTP) to see a vast difference. There he was passive and reactive, now he's actively doing stuff. It's not just the activity, but rather that he's pushing his opinions and changing them according to the facts.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 17:33 GMT
#2624
Ace definitely has a nuke. I gave it to him.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 12 2013 18:05 GMT
#2625
@Xat. You agree that many should be lynched and not nuked?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
July 12 2013 18:17 GMT
#2626
Stutters why did you choose to give your nuke to ace?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 12 2013 18:32 GMT
#2627
On July 13 2013 01:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 01:35 CaucasianAsian wrote:
On July 12 2013 19:20 Koshi wrote:
Top 3 inactives from most scummy to less scummy.
1. Stutters (wtf)
2. CA
3. Gumshoe

CA is actually being here, while Gumshoe just left the building.


can you explain why you think I'm scummy? I'm nothing but townnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. fuck life is busy. woke up, went to class, worked out, met my professor friend guy (awesome guy, he travels the world and talks to presidents of the world, seriously he does this... fucking awesome guy), grabbed dinner, drank a beer, ate a second dinner, drank some more, but it's raining as hell so i'm wet as fucjk.


That was my inactive list. You are not listed on my scummy list. Can't blame me for saying that you are inactive.

On July 13 2013 01:49 CaucasianAsian wrote:
truth. i want to be more active, but this game moves so much faster than the other, if I sleep for 8 hours, i have to catch up on 30 pages.... sooooo difficultt o do

I'll try to be more active tomorrow. I should have ~3-4 hours of free time before my day starts.



Oh god this interaction feels so scummy to me. Koshi says that his top 3 inactives FROM MOST SCUMMY TO LEAST. When CA asks why Koshi thinks he is scummy Koshi says "nah that was just an inactive list", which is completely not true as seen from his post. It's as if Koshi didn't want to draw attention to it or didn't want to offend CA, despite having a scum read on him...
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 18:34 GMT
#2628
Leaning town on him and town Ace would put it to the best use imo.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 18:41 GMT
#2629
Hey guys I'm back. If I am correct in my understanding, Xatalos has a nuke but cannot use it because he has passed he deadline? Can you please confirm, Xatalos?

If so, this is easily resolved. Medics on Xatalos, now. We need Xatalos alive because he is a 1) An almost confirmed town
2) Can vigi kill someone.

I'm not entirely convinced Stutters would be the best target just because he also bussed Dandel. I'd like to discuss the nuke target first.

Ace apparently launched a nuke at Maju, but nothing actually happened...
Was Ace lying as I initially thought? Remember, we still haven't heard from the person who supposedly gave him a maju during Day 2. He also has not confirmed my story yet.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 12 2013 18:42 GMT
#2630
Okay now that dandel flipped scum I'm temporarily off va, I think there must be fruit to be picked in the on switch list
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 12 2013 18:42 GMT
#2631
@tofu ace launched it too late apparwntly
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 18:43 GMT
#2632
Oh wow stutters gave the nuke to Ace? Stutters, what is your role exactly?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 12 2013 18:45 GMT
#2633
On July 13 2013 03:05 geript wrote:
@Xat. You agree that many should be lynched and not nuked?


You mean MajuGarzett? No, I think he should be nuked. I haven't heard anyone defending him after jampidampi's flip and I doubt scum would even bother tomorrow (too much risk, too little gain).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 12 2013 18:48 GMT
#2634
First, there's gumshoe - hasn't posted since night 1, afaik didn't vote in day2 lynch, last minute voted on without any commenting in the thread. Don't think it's like him just to vanish although I don't know him that well.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 12 2013 18:48 GMT
#2635
On July 13 2013 03:41 FirmTofu wrote:
Hey guys I'm back. If I am correct in my understanding, Xatalos has a nuke but cannot use it because he has passed he deadline? Can you please confirm, Xatalos?

If so, this is easily resolved. Medics on Xatalos, now. We need Xatalos alive because he is a 1) An almost confirmed town
2) Can vigi kill someone.

I'm not entirely convinced Stutters would be the best target just because he also bussed Dandel. I'd like to discuss the nuke target first.

Ace apparently launched a nuke at Maju, but nothing actually happened...
Was Ace lying as I initially thought? Remember, we still haven't heard from the person who supposedly gave him a maju during Day 2. He also has not confirmed my story yet.


I got a PM that I received a nuke, but then I was informed by Artanis that it was a mistake and that I would get it at the start of D2 and not yet.

Ace passed the deadline without launching his nuke and thus couldn't launch it anymore (apparently).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 12 2013 18:49 GMT
#2636
On July 13 2013 01:59 geript wrote:
5. The people who are calling me scum are hilarious. Koshi specifically looks worse for this because they're finding superficial reasons to think me scum and not following the points to their conclusion.

1) What happened between shooting down the nuke to prevent jampi dieing and you voting for jampi getting lynched?
2) Why didn't you shoot down the nukes for Ace and Xatalos? Do you think Xatalos and Ace are scummy/were scummy on the moment the nuke was flying towards them?
3) Do you believe GM is scum?
4) Do you still believe that taking down that nuke was a good idea? If not, when did you change your mind?

I believe that you made not-logical steps.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 12 2013 03:58 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 03:49 Xatalos wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:47 geript wrote:
Here's the logical flaw. No way that nuke is landing on Jampi.


How come?

Because I'm going to shoot it down. Here's the full situation with Jampi:

1. He's town and the nuke lands. Yay he's town!!! However, we have an infinite vig or something akin to it, but it's in the hands of a lurky bad player. That's bad news bears.
2. He's town and I shoot the nuke down. Yay he's town!!! But we don't have to deal with him gaining powers.
3. He's scum and the nuke lands. YAY he fake claimed and got shot in the face!!!!
4. He's scum and the nuke lands but makes him awesome. BOOOOH we've just superpowered scum.
5. He's scum and the gets shot down. We don't know he's scum, but he's easily lynchable and don't superpower him.

Of the situations where the nuke lands, only 1 is good for us and I don't think Jampi was fake claiming. Of the situations where the nuke doesn't land, all of them are better for us. Pretty simple really.

And yes, I'm assuming all nukes are radiation nukes.

As a matter of fact:
##defend jampidampi

Let's get a lynch contest going.

About this post.
1. What are you saying here? If the nukes fall or not we still have an infinite vig or something akin to it...
2. You are happy that we don't have to deal with a town with superpowers? This is a reason to let the nuke fall.
3. that would be why you don't defend him. Another reason to let the nuke fall.
4. The only reason I read why you would shoot the nuke. What superpower were you expecting?
5. This would be a reason to let the nuke fall.

Am I missing the point?
I had a good night of sleep.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 12 2013 18:50 GMT
#2637
On July 13 2013 03:48 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:41 FirmTofu wrote:
Hey guys I'm back. If I am correct in my understanding, Xatalos has a nuke but cannot use it because he has passed he deadline? Can you please confirm, Xatalos?

If so, this is easily resolved. Medics on Xatalos, now. We need Xatalos alive because he is a 1) An almost confirmed town
2) Can vigi kill someone.

I'm not entirely convinced Stutters would be the best target just because he also bussed Dandel. I'd like to discuss the nuke target first.

Ace apparently launched a nuke at Maju, but nothing actually happened...
Was Ace lying as I initially thought? Remember, we still haven't heard from the person who supposedly gave him a maju during Day 2. He also has not confirmed my story yet.


I got a PM that I received a nuke, but then I was informed by Artanis that it was a mistake and that I would get it at the start of D2 and not yet.

Ace passed the deadline without launching his nuke and thus couldn't launch it anymore (apparently).

saying that in thread almost guarantees you die. Why would you do that? :| I mean I think it's likely you'd die anyways but this almost guarantees it
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 18:51 GMT
#2638
@xatalos

What do you think of the theory that Dandel told most of his scum team to bus him day 1 because he didn't feel like playing? I'm starting to think this is exactly what happened. It is evidence by the fact that Dandel nor XigXag ever put up a decent fight defending themselves. There were plenty of lukers, isn't it odd that the one lurker who is mafia gets picked on first? Couldn't mafia relatively easily redirect the wagon to another lurker before it picked up steam?

I'm thinkin that the reason mafia never redirected the wagon was because they wanted Dandel dead to establish themselves as part of a wagon that flipped scum.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 12 2013 18:56 GMT
#2639
mafia did redirect the wagon

to originalname
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 12 2013 18:57 GMT
#2640
Until stutters explains exactly what his role is, he's still a good nuke target. If he flips scum, we get ace.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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