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So austin
On July 02 2013 03:14 austinmcc wrote:
bee tee dubs, I don't have the TARDIS. It's either winked out of existence when Kurumi died (doesn't transfer again once drained?) or kita has it.
I don't think that matters, and you may not trust me, but...it wouldn't even do anything for me if I had it, so there's no reason to hide that. It wouldn't stop a lynch or help me kill you guys tonight, so...there's no real reason to lie here.
I will assume everything kita said in his transcript with geript is true, since you haven't refuted it yet (except the "traitor" stuff, but you haven't refuted anything else).
This means that geript knew something about the TARDIS, and it means kita doesn't have the TARDIS.
Now, you said scum didn't get the TARDIS, so why would geript said scum aren't worrying about it? If scum didn't get the TARDIS, and kita just confessed he didn't have it, and nobody (even kita) knew what the "drained of energy" shit meant (i.e nobody other than Kurumi really thought it had no power at all forever), then surely you and geript would be worried a TOWNIE got it (the only other option), and the TARDIS was functioning, right?
If so, did geript lie to kita? Did kita alter the log?
Most importantly: Why didn't you mention any of that?
You mention that geript claimed kita was traitor and that wasn't reflected in the logs.
This seems like another "slip" from kita, who may have faked another stuff in the logs, something you should have noticed. You should have noticed geript claiming you guys weren't worried about the TARDIS when you actually would have.
Why something you should have noticed? Well, because you are spending all your time and effort trying to throw dirt on kita and show him as anti-town 3P so you can avoid getting lynched. Would this really be something you would miss? Specially something you would have noticed back in D3 (scum not getting the TARDIS, kita not getting the TARDIS, thus town getting the TARDIS, which I think would be something you wouldn't just forget like if it wasn't important).
Also there were more chances of scum getting it (2 scum vs 1 kita) back on D3. Geript might have used it and passed it onto you before dying.
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Oh another log. Bleh.
So we have 2 contradicting logs apparently. Kita claims he has no TARDIS, posts log "proving" it. austin claims he has no TARDIS, posts log "proving" it.
So who was TARDIS?
inb4 Xfire has it and is mindfucking everybody
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Gonzaw,
There are scum D3 logs. If you believe them real, then you can see that we're trying to plan things out and at no point make plans involving the TARDIS. If you don't believe them real, that's coo, I'm kinda mafia, but then you're stuck with thinking big logs might be faked, so maybe he faked his.
Geript didn't have it, I didn't have it. I assume that if geript said not to worry about something, then geript was dicking with kita. Just like he told him not to shoot at crossfire/austin early in the day. I don't know what exactly went on in geript/kita QT, but we didn't really trust kita, so if that got said, it was said to dick with him.
I was kinda busy noticing a lot of other stuff today. This was actually a serious postOn July 02 2013 03:14 austinmcc wrote:
bee tee dubs, I don't have the TARDIS. It's either winked out of existence when Kurumi died (doesn't transfer again once drained?) or kita has it.
I don't think that matters, and you may not trust me, but...it wouldn't even do anything for me if I had it, so there's no reason to hide that. It wouldn't stop a lynch or help me kill you guys tonight, so...there's no real reason to lie here. I didn't realize at the time that the TARDIS could be used to bus tonight and maybe dick with stuff. Again, I'm kind of not trustworthy, but ... read into the post what you will.
I will add one new thing, and it's somewhat WIFOMy, but if you're trying to play percentage games, it's a consideration. The weeping angels are, as far as I can tell, one of the big Dr. Who baddies. I think MZ, geript, and I all had villian characters, I'm Madame Kovarian.
Games don't ALWAYS match flavor, but the weeping angels aren't really a ... neutral party. They're a major baddie of the series. They killed some important dudes. A game in which a weeping angel could achieve victory with the Doctor, or his buddies, does not seem correct from a flavor standpoint. Why pick that name when you could go with something else?
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I had always been under the impression that it winked out of existence. It may be there's some facet of kita's role we don't know - he drains it and can pass it once, it explodes and kills the player he gives it to? We shot kurumi that night, so it might have covered up the kill.
I'm pretty much as confused, but also equally TARDIS-less. Didn't think about posting a full day of scum logs earlier because....it's not exactly often that the best scum play is to post scum logs.
Dis game.
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Hey austin...why don't you just link to your scum QT? 
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Can austin put a link to his scum QT?
>_>
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This shit is just getting too Machiavellian and confusing, *sigh*
I'm not made for this kind of "game", I just catch scum and not-town guys and make awesome roles/inventions.
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Oh whatever, you secretly love this stuff.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
YOU JERKS!
geript promised no backstabby. That log sounds like total backstabby.
Can we no lynch so I can shoot austin myself? ^_^
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I think based on your lying to us, it was much more...side-stabby.
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Plus...we were sort of mafia.
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On July 02 2013 10:30 austinmcc wrote:
Oh whatever, you secretly love this stuff.
Not when I'm losing
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On July 02 2013 10:18 austinmcc wrote:
Games don't ALWAYS match flavor, but the weeping angels aren't really a ... neutral party. They're a major baddie of the series. They killed some important dudes. A game in which a weeping angel could achieve victory with the Doctor, or his buddies, does not seem correct from a flavor standpoint. Why pick that name when you could go with something else?
If that was the case, wouldn't kita just pick another name from DrWho trivia to tell us?
I mean, nobody except hosts know he's Weeping Angel, he could just have picked a "neutral" char and tell us that name..
Unless he just didn't give a fuck about researching DrWho history?
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Don't know.
If I were making up a name, it's not what I'd go with. So like...all I know is that if he's telling the truth, his role is a baddie in the series. But if he's lying...why pick that name? Moreover, he already claimed "Fallen Angel," so...either it's his real role name OR he made up a SECOND role name?
So I'm left with the simplest option being he didn't think when saying his rolename.
We were at a point in the game where I'd just claimed scum. I dunno about you guys, but I wasn't thinking clearly last night. He may have been super delighted that I claimed, that he was going to lynch me instead of himself, and slipped up.
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I'm off for the night, will be around tomorrow if needed. I think you're right that I've said what I can, and it's just up to you guys to make your decision.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Weeping Angels are completely pro-town.
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On July 02 2013 11:13 austinmcc wrote:
Don't know.
If I were making up a name, it's not what I'd go with. So like...all I know is that if he's telling the truth, his role is a baddie in the series. But if he's lying...why pick that name? Moreover, he already claimed "Fallen Angel," so...either it's his real role name OR he made up a SECOND role name?
So I'm left with the simplest option being he didn't think when saying his rolename.
We were at a point in the game where I'd just claimed scum. I dunno about you guys, but I wasn't thinking clearly last night. He may have been super delighted that I claimed, that he was going to lynch me instead of himself, and slipped up.
He claimed "Fallen Angel" back in D2. Surely the shit is the same (or are Fallen Angels and Weeping Angels different shit in the show?)
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
As far as I know, Fallen Angel doesn't exist in the series...though I'm pretty sure it is a magic card :p
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Fallen Angel doesn't exist, just Weeping Angel. From a flavor standpoint, they could be neutral or they could be anti-town. Flavor doesn't tell us anything.
Kita, you posted all your convos with geript, right?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
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On July 02 2013 11:14 kitaman27 wrote:Weeping Angels are completely pro-town.
Not in Doctor Who Mafia lol. Dec and Sent know all about that.
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On July 02 2013 11:26 kitaman27 wrote:
As far as I know, Fallen Angel doesn't exist in the series...though I'm pretty sure it is a magic card :p
...so why did you claim Fallen Angel?
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