PTP IV - Demon's Run - Page 158

On July 02 2013 12:07 gonzaw wrote:


...so why did you claim Fallen Angel?

On July 02 2013 12:09 Crossfire99 wrote:
So kita, riddle me this. You posted everything you ever said to geript, yet geript knows all about your star crossed lovers after 144 hours bit even though you never told him about it. You're lying. The only way geript could have known about your role is if he had prior knowledge, i.e. you told him or you're scum buddies. Right now I'm leaning toward scum buddies cause that makes the most sense. You still die today.

On June 24 2013 06:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
votecount for reference

Votes:

BC (0) - Sk8rguy, Dandel Ion
WoS (0) - geript, Xatalos, Meapak
Dandel Ion (0) - Kurumi, Zephirdd, geript
Kurumi (0) - geript
SnB (2) - Acrofales, Zephirdd, Dandel Ion, s0lstice, Sk8rguy
Acrofales (0) - WoS
austin (7) - kitaman, Dandel Ion, Zephirdd, Dandel Ion, Xatalos, kitaman, Crossfire99, gonzaw, Kurumi
geript (0) - Dandel Ion
Zephirdd (2) - austinmcc, s0lstice, Dandel Ion, Sk8rguy, Meapak, gonzaw
Sk8rguy (4) - Acrofales, Kurumi, ???, BloodyCoobler, Zephirdd, kitaman, geript, geript

Bubbas not voting: strongandbig, WoS

austinmcc is the leading bubba with 7 votes. 8 votes are needed to lynch a bubba.

Tell me if I missed anyone. Only votes in the voting thread count!

CUNTDOWN:

On June 24 2013 06:21 geript wrote:
Look guys, you don't understand the situation. So after the D&D game I went to Mcdonalds to have wifi because I thought the deadline was at 4 pm EDT (not 5 pm EDT). I ate a late lunch. I had to shit because I don't have a gallbladder anymore and wasn't going to use the crappy McDee's bathrooms so I sheeped Gonzaw and drove home thinking I'd have enough time to spare. However, I forgot that I needed to put gas into my car and practically shat myself while waiting. Once I got home, I just saw Sent's solstice kill on my phone and went to vote who I figured the switch would be to at the limit without time to go forward. Do what you will.

On June 24 2013 06:26 geript wrote:

Didn't bother to look because I saw on my phone I was cutting it close to deadline. It's my bad.

On June 24 2013 06:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok wtf, I leave 10 mins before the lynch and then we all go austin?

Why the fuck didn't we kill zephrid?

Gonzaw I'm getting suspicious of you, your push for austin seems very half assed an apologetic as if preparing for him flipping town. Not only that, you completly ignored zephrid who you had already called out. I really liked your play until like the last two hours of the day.

Bro that looks really bad.

On June 24 2013 06:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oh and to all the idiots talking about my "disapearence", I am on my phone, I was watching indycar and assumed that, with ten minutes left nothing was gonna happen and decided to come back after the day post.

Also sk8 makes a good point about mafia motivation behind killing solstice, what did they gain by doing so.

On June 24 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote:
NOW ONTO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS

JEEBUS STOP LYNCHING ME.

If you think you can usually read me and you haven't been able to do so this game, that might be because I'm not normally this absent. As EITHER alignment. Go read my stupid scum games, I'm always trying to plot and direct things and getting shot down when I try to get the scum team to engage in stupid plans, except for CT mafia maybe cuz I replaced in there.

To those who actually think I'm scummy, you guys should knock it off as well. I don't bring presents to people who think I'm scummy except maybe I do. Ugh. Also, not scum.

Gonna sort through the rest of this tomorrow at work.

On July 02 2013 12:18 Crossfire99 wrote:

I know. Me being hung up on scum knowing something they couldn't have possibly known about unless you're scum isn't important at all...

On June 26 2013 00:13 austinmcc wrote:
As for me, again, stop lynching me. Go lynch someone else. There are still bears for me to get rid of, and I need to get rid of all the bears, for serious.

Instead, I propose lynching the dude who's asking for the TARDIS, indicating that he knows something we don't know (or I didn't know), saying that he needs it AND protection so he can win the game for town, saying that he GOT the TARDIS, and then promptly...oh right, we don't know. We have no idea what's going on over there. People who want specific items for specific reasons in games like this generally don't want them for happy reasons, imo.

As a bonus, this is the weirdest single exchange since meapak got shot:



That exchange is entirely ridiculous. Pretty much urrbody and their mothers says use vigi shots to kill unknowns, because lynching pure question marks gets you very little.

I can't find it with 30 seconds of searching, but I'm pretty sure I remember Ace telling people to vig unknowns. As well as a couple other guides. It's not at all a "wrong" thing to do, and kita getting so touchy about it really rubs me the wrong way, as does the way he's phrasing it.

This is not a vig shot in the dark at a random dude. This is a dude who has not been playing, therefore we dont' have much to read him off of. Those are good vig targets, and pretty much consensus good vig targets. Gut read is that kita just doesn't want snb shot, and the two are connected.

##vote: kitaman27

On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote:
Knowing that he didn't know he was a vet makes him look slightly better. Didn't understand him not revealing that.

But his response to pressure today doesn't ring true to me. He had the big posts during the night with the pictures, GIMME THE TARDIS GIMME GIMME. And apparently he got it.

But he didn't claim at that point, the point at which, according to him, he became a pure survivor (having satisfied the other bit of his win-con). He waits, because:(1) kita is super worried about NKs, despite their being players who look far more townie / are doing more pro-town stuff with their activity. He's been around a long time, but so have other players this game, so it's not a case of him just getting popped for being veteran-y

(2) kita was going to wait and claim N2 because ... he didn't want to be NKed. He could have claimed immediately if that's his only concern. Again, according to him, once he got the TARDIS, all he does is try to survive. No reason to wait 48 hours before saying "Oh hey guys, I'm a survivor, mafia please don't kill me."

(3) I still actually really dislike the not vigging snb comments. They don't jive AT ALL with what I understand to be conventional wisdom held by respected players. They read as an attempt to cover snb, which doesn't fit with kita being a lone survivor. This is important. Kita has said he's a survivor, 3P, all he has to do is survive. He's got NO REASON to not want snb shot in that position.

Hey hey, again, important. Kita as 3P survivor has no reason to care whether or not snb gets shot. No matter who is vigged, kita is 1 person closer to fulfilling his wincon. But he picks a fight over that, like, seriously responds to your comments. His response there is no a 3P survivor response. It's the response of someone concerned with what happens to other players.

He's not a survivor. He didn't claim the moment he could have, for a bad reason. He expressed interest in things that a survivor wouldn't care about.

On June 23 2013 18:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Kita is troubling, I'm gonna call FoS on him. In particular, this post right here reeks:


Firstly he FoS's acro for a really dumb reason, then he goes and votes austin without much more than "he commented on something popular" which is very weak. He asks kinda pointless questions and then apologizes for inactivity when no one had even called him out. I really expect a lot more out of town kita.

On June 24 2013 06:25 kitaman27 wrote:
FoS Meapak for conveniently disappearing around the same time a new lynch had to be decided so that his vote wasn't available.

On June 25 2013 09:00 kitaman27 wrote:


-_-

Suspicious as in, I don't buy his excuse for being afk, implicating austin.

On June 25 2013 08:50 kitaman27 wrote:


I find this post really fishy from Meapak. He states that he assumed that nothing was going to happen with 10 minutes left, yet with that much time left the lynch hadn't been decided, sol just role claimed doctor, and we were obviously looking to consolidate to a player. I find it hard to believe that a scum veteran like Meapak would simply walk away at a time where we are scrambling for a lynch target. Only 2 minutes before the sol flip Meapak made a post, so its pretty convenient that he disappeared. When he returns, he makes no attempt to call the last minute austin bandwagon scummy nor does he return with a strong town read on austin, which makes me think he is positioning himself for the worst if we were to go after austin today.

Also, I would think that the mafia would have 2 kp in a game of this size. With only Acro flipping and WoS coming from Zeph, it seems that either Acro was double stacked, a hit is missing, or mafia only has 1 kp.

On June 26 2013 03:27 kitaman27 wrote:
austinmcc

Re-posting on how Meapak's actions likely implicated austin:



He claims to want to push off the sk8r lynch because people he trust are reading sk8r differently. Why does it matter if someone like BC or Acro. A town austin would come to his own conclusions and then attempt to convince the person that disagrees with him to vote together. You don't push the lynch off because of a disagreement.

Take a look at this post about events of the end of day one: post

This post may look long and impressive, but it is 100% a summary. He hardly draws any conclusions or analysis based on the events. He doesn't call players scummy for voting him last minute, he doesn't call Meapak or geript town for not being around to hammer. Instead, he asks a few questions about crossfire, without really sharing an opinion about that either.

He was all aboard the Zeph lynch yesterday, but wasn't around to push it at the end of the day. Today he hasn't even mentioned Zeph. He hasn't mentioned if his read changed or anything. He votes me for weak reasoning.