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Blazinghand
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hapahauli's reasoning was fine. I agree with it (or at least the part where you're asking weird questions of me and making a show of participating without hunting scum). The issue is that you can't just say "GM shoudl be shot huehuehue hapa is right" and not explain what you agree/disagree with.
Your point that stutter's post is bad/unhelpful/scummy is correct. Your idea that you shouldn't be shot tonight is not.
also the idea that i haven't offered _any_ reason to _many_ of my statements _all_ game is interesting. It's like you want to say I never offer reasoning but you know that's literally false so you try to make some kind of half-assed point. get your shit together GM
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On June 12 2013 08:46 Hapahauli wrote: Alright, consider this my intent to shoot Gravity Man.
I will submit my kill 10 minutes before the deadline.
Stutters and GK both deserve extra days, and shooting either of them is a pure coinflip given their inactivity. Both of them are very readable if they post, and with or without my presence in the town, I trust that people will be able to read them in future days. For those suspicious of Syl, the same could be argued.
GM has been active and has posted, but comes across as attempting to contribute rather than actually contributing. Furthermore he's been trumping up his scum-hunting contributions which are lackluster at best. Even the few players he does analyze, he never takes any concrete stances or even draws actual conclusions about them in his cases.
This post in particular. I still haven't gotten to check out his posting but this is big to me since I won't have time before the flip. He demonstrates a real reason for wanting to vig tonight and is aware of the difference between a coinflip vig and a useful one.
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On June 12 2013 10:25 Blazinghand wrote: hapahauli's reasoning was fine. I agree with it (or at least the part where you're asking weird questions of me and making a show of participating without hunting scum). The issue is that you can't just say "GM shoudl be shot huehuehue hapa is right" and not explain what you agree/disagree with.
Your point that stutter's post is bad/unhelpful/scummy is correct. Your idea that you shouldn't be shot tonight is not.
also the idea that i haven't offered _any_ reason to _many_ of my statements _all_ game is interesting. It's like you want to say I never offer reasoning but you know that's literally false so you try to make some kind of half-assed point. get your shit together GM Let me rephrase it then. You fail to offer sufficient reasoning to a great deal of strong stances that you take until badgered endlessly. I believe you promised reasoning as to why I should be shot or at the very least you told this Hapahauli that you'd be looking into my filter.
Lack of a better shot is not a reason to shoot me, and once again, I have shown how Hapahauli's reasoning as to why I appear scummy is false. If you do not like the questions I was asking you in order to divine your alignment, then, I believe the colloquial phrase is: "tough shit?" It certainly made it easier for me to determine how it is you play and how your perceived view of yourself influences your playstyle.
There is yet to be postulated one concrete objective reason as to why I am scummy. By anyone. Saying that I have not contributed is purely subjective as I believe I have and again, I have shown as such in previous posts.
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On June 12 2013 10:36 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 08:46 Hapahauli wrote: Alright, consider this my intent to shoot Gravity Man.
I will submit my kill 10 minutes before the deadline.
Stutters and GK both deserve extra days, and shooting either of them is a pure coinflip given their inactivity. Both of them are very readable if they post, and with or without my presence in the town, I trust that people will be able to read them in future days. For those suspicious of Syl, the same could be argued.
GM has been active and has posted, but comes across as attempting to contribute rather than actually contributing. Furthermore he's been trumping up his scum-hunting contributions which are lackluster at best. Even the few players he does analyze, he never takes any concrete stances or even draws actual conclusions about them in his cases. This post in particular. I still haven't gotten to check out his posting but this is big to me since I won't have time before the flip. He demonstrates a real reason for wanting to vig tonight and is aware of the difference between a coinflip vig and a useful one. This is not a reason for you. It is Hapahauli's reasoning which, once again, I have proven false. I wonder I have obtained a glitch somewhere in my system as I find myself repeating my own words fairly often.
Simple because this Hapahauli believes my scumhunting to be insufficient does not make it so; the lack of caught mafia is on the collective head of the entire town. As such I will share the blame but not shoulder it. As for not drawing conclusions, not only are there other players in this game who have played similarly to me in that respect (has this Axlegreaser drawn any conclusions? Have you, Stutters?), but not a few hours before this very post, I concluded Blazinghand to be mafia.
Hapahauli, since you currently lead this town, I believe it may be your responsibility to show them in what way your reasoning is in fact, correct regarding myself?
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On June 12 2013 10:06 GravityMan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:03 Hapahauli wrote: Nah. Really just don't have the info I'd like. Treat tomorrow like a double lynch is better. Well I must admit I either cannot read you as well as I thought I once could, or I convinced you. I am honestly not sure which of those two it is. You say you do not have the information you want; I am aware revealing said lack of information would be counter-productive, but if you are indeed assassinated like so many good leaders tend to be, we may left in the dark on a useful heuristic.
I mainly started the discussion about shooting someone tonight to keep discussion going and to make sure that people were on their toes tonight. That objective was fulfilled.
As for the actual shot, tbh I just don't feel comfortable shooting someone given the circumstances. This thread isn't active, and I don't have a very strong scumread on you (even if I may trump it up some for the sake of discussion).
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
wow i actually personally dislike GM now
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On June 12 2013 10:47 Blazinghand wrote: wow i actually personally dislike GM now
It's funny, because you two post so similarly that I confuse you all the time >>
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On June 12 2013 10:47 Blazinghand wrote: wow i actually personally dislike GM now I believe the earlier colloquial phrase I used applies here as well.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On June 12 2013 10:48 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:47 Blazinghand wrote: wow i actually personally dislike GM now It's funny, because you two post so similarly that I confuse you all the time >>
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Anyone down for a 420 YOLO #SWAG shot on Stutters?
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I'd really prefer you don't, it would be awfully retarded.
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no hapa. NOO
What do you mean by stutters being easy to read? As far as I know, he never rolled scum.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
hapa it is time to let out your true shenannies. shoot someone. to thine own self be true
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On June 12 2013 10:52 Hapahauli wrote: Anyone down for a 420 YOLO #SWAG shot on Stutters? Considering by 'anyone' you'd be referring to the three or so people present and as such would not have the consent of all of the town, I'd advise against it.
At the same time I did elect you to represent us, and if you feel that is the best course of action, you may take it as it was given to you by right. Were I in your position I would not shoot.
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On June 12 2013 10:53 Oatsmaster wrote: no hapa. NOO
What do you mean by stutters being easy to read? As far as I know, he never rolled scum.
Oh seriously? Huh. I was just going off of what GK had said.
But no I'm not shooting Stutters. I'm more just antsy before the end of the night.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
does anyone remember playing like SNES jrpg roms that were horribly translated and everyone was speaking in thous and thys and stuff? or is that just me
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Wait, whats with the potential shot on Stutters, I liked his night post about Shiao
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Never mind, he's not getting shot <3 Hapa
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But yeah, bottom line is that I'm not killing anyone tonight. The shot should be used tomorrow (pre or post lynch) so we have more information to go on and are not blindly shooting into lurkers.
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Oats and Syl
Where have you guys been? >>
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