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On June 08 2013 04:16 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 04:12 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 08 2013 04:10 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 08 2013 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game. What? No. GK at least put in the effort. You just said me putting in more effort makes me scum. Make up your mind or stop trollin' its a perfect example You're right, but I also said it pisses me off. YOU also said you wouldn't be playing the same way this game. Maybe you've reversed your meta now. You are dead weight right now if you're town, and I don't tolerate dead weight in my town. Again, for somebody so proud of his play on other sites I haven't seen much of that great play here. Who do you want to lynch and how do you plan to actively assist the town in getting your primary read lynched? I already voted for who I want to lynch, there's no way around it. Percentages and the KP reduction is too good to pass up. Also ATE is going to get you nowhere with me so you can drop it. I don't know what ATE is. 'Percentages and KP reduction' are not good enough when you have made no active contributions to the game this far. As I've said I may not be pushing you today but I certainly will not be dropping this entirely.
ATE is appealing to your emotion. Just look through your filter, you've wanted to lynch me since the start of the game. You're blinded.
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On June 08 2013 04:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 04:12 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 08 2013 04:10 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 08 2013 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game. What? No. GK at least put in the effort. You just said me putting in more effort makes me scum. Make up your mind or stop trollin' its a perfect example You're right, but I also said it pisses me off. YOU also said you wouldn't be playing the same way this game. Maybe you've reversed your meta now. You are dead weight right now if you're town, and I don't tolerate dead weight in my town. Again, for somebody so proud of his play on other sites I haven't seen much of that great play here. Who do you want to lynch and how do you plan to actively assist the town in getting your primary read lynched? I already voted for who I want to lynch, there's no way around it. Percentages and the KP reduction is too good to pass up. Also ATE is going to get you nowhere with me so you can drop it. please do some work, Read both our filters, vote for the one you think is scum. Thats the best way to get today correct irregardless of mine or Ace's alignment. DO IT.
Well the thing is, if you are truly town it's still the right play. If we lynched ace and he's town then it's the wrong play and we get fucked. Even if I thought you were town I can't really convince myself to switch on this.
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lol you're absolutely wrong.
You remind me a lot of Geript actually.
Your play pisses me off, you make bullshit appeals to your own authority by saying things like you have a psychology background (WHICH HAS ABSOLUTELY NO MERIT HERE), and you blatantly misrepresent what I do and say.
If YOU just look through my filter you'd see that I had been calling you town up until recently.
Listen to Oats and DO SOMETHING.
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On June 08 2013 04:15 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 04:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:On June 08 2013 04:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
He said I was town because he was trying to buddy up people outside of the mafia to get the lynch changed, he did the same thing with JJD. This isn't that complicated. ???? Read rayne's filter and it will become apparent Just did. It's not apparent to me @ all. Please explain to me what you're talking about.
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On June 08 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game. What? No. GK at least put in the effort. You just said me putting in more effort makes me scum. Make up your mind or stop trollin' its a perfect example
No, you putting in zero effort is half the reason your play is so scummy
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##unvote
##vote: VayneAuthority
This vote makes the most sense for me. Oats might be miller and Ace might be cop. Who knows. But Vayne is definitely scum. This vote makes the most sense for me.
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On June 08 2013 04:25 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 08 2013 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game. What? No. GK at least put in the effort. You just said me putting in more effort makes me scum. Make up your mind or stop trollin' its a perfect example No, you putting in zero effort is half the reason your play is so scummy
Just so you know, that quote was in response to my meta analysis of him, in which I said he DOES put in more effort as scum than town. So while his play this game would have him playing to his town meta, he himself said he would be changing it up this game.
About to type up my Ace read.
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On June 08 2013 04:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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##vote: VayneAuthority
This vote makes the most sense for me. Oats might be miller and Ace might be cop. Who knows. But Vayne is definitely scum. This vote makes the most sense for me.
but wasn't the idea that rayne called vayne town was because he knew he was town?
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I don't really see how anyone but scum would be pushing anything but oats/ace today and I said earlier I have a townread on sentinel, probably 2/2 guess he's scum
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Regarding layabout: His thoughts have basically coincided with mine all game. I have absolutely no reason to think he is scum right now above other people.
layabout's only real read is that Sent is scum, which conflicts with your own view. I'm not following your train of thought.
I'm confused by layabout's reluctance to lynch into Ace/Oats, refusing to acknowledge that the kp is reduced with a mafia lynch. He shared multiple STRONG town reads on Ace prior to the cop claim, so it appears that his only reluctance is that both Ace and Oats are town. With a 8/9 chance of Oats not being a town Miller, he wants to lynch into a large pool players likely containing only two scum. A future check has an even better chance of getting impacted by the godfather/miller, a night hit, or a mafia cop.
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On June 08 2013 04:42 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Regarding layabout: His thoughts have basically coincided with mine all game. I have absolutely no reason to think he is scum right now above other people. layabout's only real read is that Sent is scum, which conflicts with your own view. I'm not following your train of thought. I'm confused by layabout's reluctance to lynch into Ace/Oats, refusing to acknowledge that the kp is reduced with a mafia lynch. He shared multiple STRONG town reads on Ace prior to the cop claim, so it appears that his only reluctance is that both Ace and Oats are town. With a 8/9 chance of Oats not being a town Miller, he wants to lynch into a large pool players likely containing only two scum. A future check has an even better chance of getting impacted by the godfather/miller, a night hit, or a mafia cop.
I was refrring to his thoughts on jay earlier on D1, his main defense of me being spot-on, and the reluctance to lynch into Ace/Oats.
Hmm looking into him now I suppose the Sent read differs as well as the reasoning for not wanting to lynch into Ace/Oats ; it's that feeling of being manipulated that I don't like that drives me to at least consider a lynch elsewhere but not exclude an Oats/Ace lynch. Layabout's reasons are entirely setup-derived and seemingly....wrong if you look at the numbers. He says we should lynch Oats at first and then moves off the both of them entirely and yet never offers up a better choice.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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I actually wish this Ace-Oats thing didn't happen so we could just go ahead and lynch Sentinel because he's by far the scummiest person in the thread.
Sent can you tell me why you voted for Ace after the cop reveal? Cause I just read through your filter and several times you mention that you'd like to lynch Oats or that he's scummy. But nowhere do you act even a little bit suspicious of Ace. In fact you pretty much said the exact opposite:On June 05 2013 21:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:What do you all think of Oats? He's been tunneling Ace on the following evidence:
On June 06 2013 00:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So now we have Oats who has little content and sheeps anyone who isn't Ace. And Ace doesn't even look scum.
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On June 06 2013 10:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Okay.
I'd like to lynch Oats. However I too shall look into prplhz, Vayne and jay and determine what I think of them.
Guilty until proven flammable?
On June 06 2013 18:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats it wasn't a scumslip, you realize I was talking about "looking scummy", not "being scummy"?
I had a problem changing my vote because I thought someone could make a case for me being scum either way. If I switched and rayn flipped red, it would look to potential accusers like I was bussing him. If I didn't, it would look to them like I was potentially ignoring him.
Stop grasping at straws that don't exist (*hem* Ace *hem*)
Ots pls
On June 07 2013 05:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
prplhz - 7/10 scumpoints for his questionable defense of rayn which may or may not be motivated by meta (2 above neutral for his flip flop)
vayne - 9/10 scumpoints from bringing nothing of value and defending rayn
oats - 6/10 scumpoints because although his godforsaken ace push is angering me, he's using what little substance he offers to pressure me into a lynch. rayn was ignoring me (I maintain that he was setting me up). vayne looks like he's ignoring half the players in this game too (including at least one scum). oats is taking the spotlight to lead who he (mistakenly) thinks is town. he gets one scumpoint for the ace push and is otherwise a neutral (but incredibly pithy!) player. So after all that, Ace says he copchecked Oats and Oats is scum. So you decide to [B]On June 07 2013 18:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##vote: ace You're scum.
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On June 08 2013 04:59 JarJarDrinks wrote:
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He gave a reason for his switch onto Ace.
Read it.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 08 2013 05:01 WaveofShadow wrote:He gave a reason for his switch onto Ace. Read it.
It's not a very good reason however.
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On June 07 2013 18:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Vayne and prplhz voted for Oats and defending Ace on little evidence despite public opinion, are we having a repeat of the rayn lynch? Can we be right twice? This is the only reason I see. Basically he's saying that Vayne and Prplhz are scum and defending Ace? And that's why he voted for him even though he hadn't seemed scummy the entire game and he redchecked someone that he did think was scummy? Really?
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On June 08 2013 05:02 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 05:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 04:59 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Sentinel He gave a reason for his switch onto Ace. Read it. It's not a very good reason however.
So you don't agree with Vivax?
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On June 08 2013 04:31 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 04:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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##vote: VayneAuthority
This vote makes the most sense for me. Oats might be miller and Ace might be cop. Who knows. But Vayne is definitely scum. This vote makes the most sense for me. but wasn't the idea that rayne called vayne town was because he knew he was town?
Right but he was defending himself there by saying "vayne was totally correct about me". It's more a matter of survival for him.
Just like me.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 08 2013 05:09 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 05:02 kitaman27 wrote:On June 08 2013 05:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 04:59 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Sentinel He gave a reason for his switch onto Ace. Read it. It's not a very good reason however. So you don't agree with Vivax?
On June 08 2013 01:18 Vivax wrote:
Now, imagine Oats is scum and Sentinel too. That doesn't really fit, right? Sentinel has been pushing Oats throughout D1, then he added Vayne and prplhz as his scumreads, and ace revealed the cop check, and Sentinel thinks "Oh well two scummers are on another scummers' wagon so ace is scum", and Oats can't be scum.
I think the alternative to this argument is that Sent's scum reads aren't actually legitimate and he is willing to push whatever doesn't lead to the dreaded 10v2 scenario.
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On June 08 2013 05:16 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 05:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 05:02 kitaman27 wrote:On June 08 2013 05:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 04:59 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Sentinel He gave a reason for his switch onto Ace. Read it. It's not a very good reason however. So you don't agree with Vivax? Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 01:18 Vivax wrote:
Now, imagine Oats is scum and Sentinel too. That doesn't really fit, right? Sentinel has been pushing Oats throughout D1, then he added Vayne and prplhz as his scumreads, and ace revealed the cop check, and Sentinel thinks "Oh well two scummers are on another scummers' wagon so ace is scum", and Oats can't be scum. I think the alternative to this argument is that Sent's scum reads aren't actually legitimate and he is willing to push whatever doesn't lead to the dreaded 10v2 scenario. Yeah, why would Vayne and prplhz be scummers in that situation? I don't know which of Vivax's scenarios are true. But I'm pretty sure it aint the one where Sent is town. I just can't possibly imagine him voting Ace there. Add to that the scumslip and his defense of it. And he's practically confirmed scum.
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