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United States3921 Posts
On June 08 2013 07:02 layabout wrote:
well that's embarrassing:
##vote Oatsmaster
jay be quiet the issue we are dealing with is Ace vs Oats everyone has made it quite clear that that's the lynch, there is no point pushing somebody else, it just add noise and confusion.
WTF are you going on about. I voted for Ace thank you very much. You're the guy that posted this saying we should not go for ace and oats.
Note that after everyone makes it clear we going for Ace or Oats he says this. He tried to derail the lynch off them. But failed and now he goes and says that IM trying to derail it?
YOU tried to derail the lynch off them ffs dont tell me to be quiet.
On June 07 2013 11:10 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 07 2013 10:37 layabout wrote:
If mafia get cop they can always make this play regardless of the roleblock. Following the red check is a risk especially when the cop role is still around and more checks can increase our certainty.
If Ace flips at any point we will know if we can trust his check. A check of Oats on Ace could increase our certainty since if would confirm or deny the claim and we would be hoping the person checked does not get miller. This means Ace will never flip unless we do it ourselves, you know. Or I guess if they're both town. Yeah but lynching either is risky the chance of two town whilst ignoring them grants more checks allowing us to make a better decision. It also reduced the pool of player mafia are likely to shoot at improving the chance of us getting a medic save. We should lynch somebody else.I don't think following the cop is the best play to make in this situation. Especially since the correct(okay strong) play for mafia if they get the cop is to claim a red check.
You JUST tried to get people off ace and oats.
YOU JUST TRIED AND YOU ARE SAYING IM DOING IT
Honestly i would try to lynch you right now. If I was not adamant in killing from the ace/oats pool
LAYABOUT IS SCUMMMMMMMMM. We should lynch him after we lynch ace.
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United States3921 Posts
On June 08 2013 07:05 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 07:03 jaybrundage wrote:On June 07 2013 17:18 prplhz wrote:
This really doesn't seem like anything Ace would attempt as scum.
##Vote Oatsmaster If Ace is scum he can just back out with a Miller MAH BAD bullshit. If anything if ace is as strong a mafia player as so many say he would just fakeclaim like he did on Oats. Then try to talk him self out the second lynch by saying Oats was miller. Do you see anyone here that is actually going to listen to him?
Im not sure you guys seem willing to listen to his shit now
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I think ace is more believable than oats. But if oats flips town, ace has to die. Opposite if Ace dies first and flips town.
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If Ace is mafia fake claiming then it's fine since we would be 8 town vs 2 mafia day 4 with scum kp at 1 worst case scenario. This play helps town if there is a scum Ace[spoiler]we are 12vs 3 atm
oats would take it to 11vs3
NK's 9vs 3
ace lynch 9vs2
NKs 8vs2 assuming nk go through[spoiler]
That's part of why i am so worried since i am pretty sure ace is town but if Oats was miller then we have to waste 2 cycles without mafia losing KP in case Ace is scum fake-claiming.
We would go into day 4 with 6t vs 3m (if NKs go through).
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On June 08 2013 07:11 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 07:02 layabout wrote:
well that's embarrassing:
##vote Oatsmaster
jay be quiet the issue we are dealing with is Ace vs Oats everyone has made it quite clear that that's the lynch, there is no point pushing somebody else, it just add noise and confusion. WTF are you going on about. I voted for Ace thank you very much. You're the guy that posted this saying we should not go for ace and oats. Note that after everyone makes it clear we going for Ace or Oats he says this. He tried to derail the lynch off them. But failed and now he goes and says that IM trying to derail it? YOU tried to derail the lynch off them ffs dont tell me to be quiet. Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 11:10 layabout wrote:On June 07 2013 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 07 2013 10:37 layabout wrote:
If mafia get cop they can always make this play regardless of the roleblock. Following the red check is a risk especially when the cop role is still around and more checks can increase our certainty.
If Ace flips at any point we will know if we can trust his check. A check of Oats on Ace could increase our certainty since if would confirm or deny the claim and we would be hoping the person checked does not get miller. This means Ace will never flip unless we do it ourselves, you know. Or I guess if they're both town. Yeah but lynching either is risky the chance of two town whilst ignoring them grants more checks allowing us to make a better decision. It also reduced the pool of player mafia are likely to shoot at improving the chance of us getting a medic save. We should lynch somebody else.I don't think following the cop is the best play to make in this situation. Especially since the correct(okay strong) play for mafia if they get the cop is to claim a red check. You JUST tried to get people off ace and oats. YOU JUST TRIED AND YOU ARE SAYING IM DOING IT Honestly i would try to lynch you right now. If I was not adamant in killing from the ace/oats pool LAYABOUT IS SCUMMMMMMMMM. We should lynch him after we lynch ace.
Why else would i use the past tense?
You called me scum for not pushing somebody other than Ace or Oats.
My posting has been focussed around Ace's check on Oats. Initially i wanted us to lynch elsewhere. But in the end...
I voted for Oats.
You call me scum for trying to derail an Ace/Oats lynch.
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Have you reread my posts yet?
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Votecount - ~24h left Edition:
Ace (2): Oatsmaster, jaybrundage, [UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster (6): Ace, JarJarDinks, prplhz, Vivax, kitaman27, mkfuba07, layabout
VayneAuthority (1): [UoN]Sentinel, [UoN]Sentinel
[UoN]Sentinel (1): JarJarDinks
Not Voting (7): WaveofShadow, Stutters695, VayneAuthority
Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
I'd double check your numbers layabout
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urgh not my day :
If Ace is mafia fake claiming then it's fine since we would be 8 town vs 2 mafia day 4 with scum kp at 1 worst case scenario. This play helps town if there is a scum Ace + Show Spoiler +we are 10vs 3 atm
oats would take it to 9vs3
NK's 7vs 3
ace lynch 7vs2
NKs 6vs2 assuming nk go through That's part of why i am so worried since i am pretty sure ace is town but if Oats was miller then we have to waste 2 cycles without mafia losing KP in case Ace is scum fake-claiming. We would go into day 4 with 4t vs 3m (if NKs go through) which would be lylo.
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United States3921 Posts
On June 08 2013 07:24 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 07:11 jaybrundage wrote:On June 08 2013 07:02 layabout wrote:
well that's embarrassing:
##vote Oatsmaster
jay be quiet the issue we are dealing with is Ace vs Oats everyone has made it quite clear that that's the lynch, there is no point pushing somebody else, it just add noise and confusion. WTF are you going on about. I voted for Ace thank you very much. You're the guy that posted this saying we should not go for ace and oats. Note that after everyone makes it clear we going for Ace or Oats he says this. He tried to derail the lynch off them. But failed and now he goes and says that IM trying to derail it? YOU tried to derail the lynch off them ffs dont tell me to be quiet. On June 07 2013 11:10 layabout wrote:On June 07 2013 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 07 2013 10:37 layabout wrote:
If mafia get cop they can always make this play regardless of the roleblock. Following the red check is a risk especially when the cop role is still around and more checks can increase our certainty.
If Ace flips at any point we will know if we can trust his check. A check of Oats on Ace could increase our certainty since if would confirm or deny the claim and we would be hoping the person checked does not get miller. This means Ace will never flip unless we do it ourselves, you know. Or I guess if they're both town. Yeah but lynching either is risky the chance of two town whilst ignoring them grants more checks allowing us to make a better decision. It also reduced the pool of player mafia are likely to shoot at improving the chance of us getting a medic save. We should lynch somebody else.I don't think following the cop is the best play to make in this situation. Especially since the correct(okay strong) play for mafia if they get the cop is to claim a red check. You JUST tried to get people off ace and oats. YOU JUST TRIED AND YOU ARE SAYING IM DOING IT Honestly i would try to lynch you right now. If I was not adamant in killing from the ace/oats pool LAYABOUT IS SCUMMMMMMMMM. We should lynch him after we lynch ace. Why else would i use the past tense? You called me scum for not pushing somebody other than Ace or Oats. My posting has been focussed around Ace's check on Oats. Initially i wanted us to lynch elsewhere. But in the end... I voted for Oats. You call me scum for trying to derail an Ace/Oats lynch.
Yes that exaclty what im doing. You tried to derail the Ace/Oats lynch. When you failed you fell into the background not really giving much of any content. When you saw the trend picking up to Oats you so ok lets join in now. All game you have been hesitant with your reads and your thought process. You always wait till things are finalized to join in or put your input
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Does anyone have anything to say about the meta read I posted on Oats? Any counterexamples?I really don't want to lynch into him over a poor meta read but afaik it's pretty true. I haven't seen his recent games though.
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United States3921 Posts
On June 08 2013 07:52 Stutters695 wrote:
Does anyone have anything to say about the meta read I posted on Oats? Any counterexamples?I really don't want to lynch into him over a poor meta read but afaik it's pretty true. I haven't seen his recent games though.
Ill go reread it and give my opinion
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United States3921 Posts
I can't find it link it plz
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On June 08 2013 06:47 Stutters695 wrote:
The I can't pull it up on my phone but he trolls way closer to being lynched as town unless there are some scum games I haven't seen where he does main difference between town oats and this game that I can tell is oats usually tries a bit harder as scum and is more likely to troll until he's lynched as town.
It's a shitty metric but I can't read him for shit. I always think he's scum, expect the one time I played and he actually was.
Too hard to link on my phone, here's the quote it hit buried pretty quick
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Also sorry for that terrible grammar, was rushing that out.
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On June 08 2013 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 07:24 layabout wrote:On June 08 2013 07:11 jaybrundage wrote:On June 08 2013 07:02 layabout wrote:
well that's embarrassing:
##vote Oatsmaster
jay be quiet the issue we are dealing with is Ace vs Oats everyone has made it quite clear that that's the lynch, there is no point pushing somebody else, it just add noise and confusion. WTF are you going on about. I voted for Ace thank you very much. You're the guy that posted this saying we should not go for ace and oats. Note that after everyone makes it clear we going for Ace or Oats he says this. He tried to derail the lynch off them. But failed and now he goes and says that IM trying to derail it? YOU tried to derail the lynch off them ffs dont tell me to be quiet. On June 07 2013 11:10 layabout wrote:On June 07 2013 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 07 2013 10:37 layabout wrote:
If mafia get cop they can always make this play regardless of the roleblock. Following the red check is a risk especially when the cop role is still around and more checks can increase our certainty.
If Ace flips at any point we will know if we can trust his check. A check of Oats on Ace could increase our certainty since if would confirm or deny the claim and we would be hoping the person checked does not get miller. This means Ace will never flip unless we do it ourselves, you know. Or I guess if they're both town. Yeah but lynching either is risky the chance of two town whilst ignoring them grants more checks allowing us to make a better decision. It also reduced the pool of player mafia are likely to shoot at improving the chance of us getting a medic save. We should lynch somebody else.I don't think following the cop is the best play to make in this situation. Especially since the correct(okay strong) play for mafia if they get the cop is to claim a red check. You JUST tried to get people off ace and oats. YOU JUST TRIED AND YOU ARE SAYING IM DOING IT Honestly i would try to lynch you right now. If I was not adamant in killing from the ace/oats pool LAYABOUT IS SCUMMMMMMMMM. We should lynch him after we lynch ace. Why else would i use the past tense? You called me scum for not pushing somebody other than Ace or Oats. My posting has been focussed around Ace's check on Oats. Initially i wanted us to lynch elsewhere. But in the end... I voted for Oats. You call me scum for trying to derail an Ace/Oats lynch. Yes that exaclty what im doing. You tried to derail the Ace/Oats lynch. When you failed you fell into the background not really giving much of any content. When you saw the trend picking up to Oats you so ok lets join in now. All game you have been hesitant with your reads and your thought process. You always wait till things are finalized to join in or put your input I have been very open with my thought process. It should be pretty clear that of Ace/Oatsmaster i would vote for Oatsmaster. I didn't want to lynch ace/oats because i cant read oats well and i hate rolebased lynches like this because it is all luck based and it changes the game from being mafia-y to coinflip-y. I was late with my vote onto rayne but generally I am late with my day1 vote.
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##vote: oatsmaster
I'm open to change if there is a good reason but right now I don't see it.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
If Ace doesn't post tonight, I think I'd switch over to him.
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Kita what do you think about that meta read?
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 08 2013 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
Kita what do you think about that meta read?
More an observation than a read in my opinion. I wouldn't put much value into it one way or the other.
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