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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 07 2013 23:43 GMT
#901
Well it's one of my main points in favoring an oats lynch.

That and the fact that scum Ace should be wise enough to realize that a 2-1 trade isn't in scums favor when we still haven't mislynched. I really can't read oats though and that worries me.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 07 2013 23:47 GMT
#902
##vote:Oatsmaster
I come in for the scraps
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 08 2013 00:01 GMT
#903



On June 08 2013 08:11 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 08 2013 07:24 layabout wrote:
On June 08 2013 07:11 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 08 2013 07:02 layabout wrote:
well that's embarrassing:

##vote Oatsmaster

jay be quiet the issue we are dealing with is Ace vs Oats everyone has made it quite clear that that's the lynch, there is no point pushing somebody else, it just add noise and confusion.


WTF are you going on about. I voted for Ace thank you very much. You're the guy that posted this saying we should not go for ace and oats.

Note that after everyone makes it clear we going for Ace or Oats he says this. He tried to derail the lynch off them. But failed and now he goes and says that IM trying to derail it?

YOU tried to derail the lynch off them ffs dont tell me to be quiet.

On June 07 2013 11:10 layabout wrote:
On June 07 2013 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 10:37 layabout wrote:
If mafia get cop they can always make this play regardless of the roleblock. Following the red check is a risk especially when the cop role is still around and more checks can increase our certainty.

If Ace flips at any point we will know if we can trust his check. A check of Oats on Ace could increase our certainty since if would confirm or deny the claim and we would be hoping the person checked does not get miller.

This means Ace will never flip unless we do it ourselves, you know. Or I guess if they're both town.

Yeah but lynching either is risky the chance of two town whilst ignoring them grants more checks allowing us to make a better decision. It also reduced the pool of player mafia are likely to shoot at improving the chance of us getting a medic save.

We should lynch somebody else.

I don't think following the cop is the best play to make in this situation. Especially since the correct(okay strong) play for mafia if they get the cop is to claim a red check.


You JUST tried to get people off ace and oats.

YOU JUST TRIED AND YOU ARE SAYING IM DOING IT

Honestly i would try to lynch you right now. If I was not adamant in killing from the ace/oats pool

LAYABOUT IS SCUMMMMMMMMM. We should lynch him after we lynch ace.

Why else would i use the past tense?

You called me scum for not pushing somebody other than Ace or Oats.
My posting has been focussed around Ace's check on Oats. Initially i wanted us to lynch elsewhere. But in the end...
I voted for Oats.
You call me scum for trying to derail an Ace/Oats lynch.

Yes that exaclty what im doing. You tried to derail the Ace/Oats lynch. When you failed you fell into the background not really giving much of any content. When you saw the trend picking up to Oats you so ok lets join in now. All game you have been hesitant with your reads and your thought process. You always wait till things are finalized to join in or put your input
I have been very open with my thought process. It should be pretty clear that of Ace/Oatsmaster i would vote for Oatsmaster. I didn't want to lynch ace/oats because i cant read oats well and i hate rolebased lynches like this because it is all luck based and it changes the game from being mafia-y to coinflip-y. I was late with my vote onto rayne but generally I am late with my day1 vote.


First off you where not clear you were pussy footing with who you wanted to vote for. After Oats got alot of votes then you went on the wagon. Seems like you dont like making waves.

You say you can't read Oats well. Then what about Ace you never mention if you can read him at all. If you think ace is town then you would go with his cop check cause you have a 8/9 chances that its right.

But if you and ace are scum buddies. Then you would obviously wanna go for Oats to secure that kill and get more of an advantage in numbers.

You say you were late with your vote on rayn. Convenient that you also were late with your vote on Oats.


Even when i was your scum read you didn't really push it. S0lstice did a better job making up a case. Even your attemped at derailing the lynch off Ace/Oats was weak as fuck.

You showcase hesitancy, focusing on going unnoticed and don't try to make any pushes of your own.

Smells like Scum to me
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 08 2013 00:07 GMT
#904
On June 08 2013 08:02 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 06:47 Stutters695 wrote:
The I can't pull it up on my phone but he trolls way closer to being lynched as town unless there are some scum games I haven't seen where he does main difference between town oats and this game that I can tell is oats usually tries a bit harder as scum and is more likely to troll until he's lynched as town.

It's a shitty metric but I can't read him for shit. I always think he's scum, expect the one time I played and he actually was.


Too hard to link on my phone, here's the quote it hit buried pretty quick

Oh thought your meta read had more to it. I haven't been focusing to much on Oats I think that Ace is mafia and there is no way that both ace and Oats are mafia. So Oats gets a free townie pass from me. I dont know Oats meta so i can help ya much in that regard. I do not like how the way this lynch is going tho. Everyone is just piling onto Oats. I mean I guess if Oats flips green which i think he will then. We go after Ace. But I really dont see Oats being red.

Im surprised that Ace tried to derail the rayn lynch so bad and people just let it go. He had bullshit reasons for starting that. Even now hes afk and not giving a fuck about town.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 08 2013 00:14 GMT
#905
Ace really needs to get back.
And I'm just making it known in case I haven't already (I have) I hate this predetermined lynch plan bullshit.

It never goes well.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 08 2013 00:50 GMT
#906
jay not only are you assuming that i need to be scumbuddies with ace but you conveniently ignore that we have perfectly valid and considerable reasons to be hesitant about this lynch, like the fact that we could end up at lylo if the nightactions have been unkind.

You also completely ignore how i was explaining why i felt ace was not scummy before he even claimed cop. Which is odd since i was responding to you.

When in the game should i have been making a "push of my own"?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 08 2013 00:58 GMT
#907
On June 08 2013 09:07 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:02 Stutters695 wrote:
On June 08 2013 06:47 Stutters695 wrote:
The I can't pull it up on my phone but he trolls way closer to being lynched as town unless there are some scum games I haven't seen where he does main difference between town oats and this game that I can tell is oats usually tries a bit harder as scum and is more likely to troll until he's lynched as town.

It's a shitty metric but I can't read him for shit. I always think he's scum, expect the one time I played and he actually was.


Too hard to link on my phone, here's the quote it hit buried pretty quick

Oh thought your meta read had more to it. I haven't been focusing to much on Oats I think that Ace is mafia and there is no way that both ace and Oats are mafia. So Oats gets a free townie pass from me. I dont know Oats meta so i can help ya much in that regard. I do not like how the way this lynch is going tho. Everyone is just piling onto Oats. I mean I guess if Oats flips green which i think he will then. We go after Ace. But I really dont see Oats being red.

Im surprised that Ace tried to derail the rayn lynch so bad and people just let it go. He had bullshit reasons for starting that. Even now hes afk and not giving a fuck about town.


Ace is scummy for trying to derail the rayne lynch and switch to Oatsmaster.
On June 06 2013 04:05 jaybrundage wrote:
oh i forgot

##UnVote
##Vote FUBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Also we need some people to get in here S0lstice, Ace come to mind maybe some more layabout

You wouldn't do anything like that would you?

If you are town you need to be less attached to your reads and more attached to the thread.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 08 2013 01:15 GMT
#908
sucks that when i am around and feel like posting no one else is
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 08 2013 01:17 GMT
#909
On June 08 2013 09:58 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 09:07 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:02 Stutters695 wrote:
On June 08 2013 06:47 Stutters695 wrote:
The I can't pull it up on my phone but he trolls way closer to being lynched as town unless there are some scum games I haven't seen where he does main difference between town oats and this game that I can tell is oats usually tries a bit harder as scum and is more likely to troll until he's lynched as town.

It's a shitty metric but I can't read him for shit. I always think he's scum, expect the one time I played and he actually was.


Too hard to link on my phone, here's the quote it hit buried pretty quick

Oh thought your meta read had more to it. I haven't been focusing to much on Oats I think that Ace is mafia and there is no way that both ace and Oats are mafia. So Oats gets a free townie pass from me. I dont know Oats meta so i can help ya much in that regard. I do not like how the way this lynch is going tho. Everyone is just piling onto Oats. I mean I guess if Oats flips green which i think he will then. We go after Ace. But I really dont see Oats being red.

Im surprised that Ace tried to derail the rayn lynch so bad and people just let it go. He had bullshit reasons for starting that. Even now hes afk and not giving a fuck about town.


1Ace is scummy for trying to derail the rayne lynch and switch to Oatsmaster.
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 04:05 jaybrundage wrote:
oh i forgot

##UnVote
##Vote FUBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Also we need some people to get in here S0lstice, Ace come to mind maybe some more layabout

You wouldn't do anything like that would you?

2If you are town you need to be less attached to your reads and more attached to the thread.


This isn't even coherent nor does it have any logic.

1Ace got on the Rayn wagon early left it. Went on Oats then came back on it because of Fuba's reasoning saying it was sound reason for why Rayn could be scum. He thought he had a valid reason for trying to lynch Rayn. But later in the day he compiled the votes and said that if people were voting for Rayn cause he was inactive then it might be a mislynch. This doesn't make any sense and doesnt follow logic.

I voted for Fuba because i thought he was the scummiest candidate. I never thought Rayn was scummy so why would i vote for him. The reason that most voted for him was because he had a town read on vayne for correctly identifying his playstyle and saying that it wasn't alignment indicative. The reason I didn't think this was scummy was because I do this. When people know my playstyle (or rather my bad play and me being lynchbait) They defend me and i give them a town read because of that.

Why would i vote someone for scum if i dont think they are scummy. Ace was on Rayn till he had a chance to get lynched then he started backpedaling

2Also what are you talking about more attached to the thread I have dropped my reads when I don't think they agree with evidence from the thread. So far I have had scum reads on S0lstice, Fuba both which I have dropped when I didn't think it made sense from what was going on in the thread. I have conflicting feelings about Sent but i see alot of scummy things in his play. I have since picked up ace as a scum read last night. And you just recently :D Isn't that swell
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 08 2013 01:19 GMT
#910
On June 08 2013 10:15 layabout wrote:
sucks that when i am around and feel like posting no one else is

You wish you were so lucky
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 08 2013 01:34 GMT
#911
Ace got on the Rayn wagon early left it. Went on Oats then came back on it because of Fuba's reasoning saying it was sound reason for why Rayn could be scum. He thought he had a valid reason for trying to lynch Rayn. But later in the day he compiled the votes and said that if people were voting for Rayn cause he was inactive then it might be a mislynch. This doesn't make any sense and doesnt follow logic.
I already address this yesterday
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18818249

The reason that most voted for him was because he had a town read on vayne for correctly identifying his playstyle and saying that it wasn't alignment indicative.
He was scummy because his townread didn't make sense from a town's perspective.

When people know my playstyle (or rather my bad play and me being lynchbait) They defend me and i give them a town read because of that.
This is silly.

Also what are you talking about more attached to the thread I have dropped my reads when I don't think they agree with evidence from the thread. So far I have had scum reads on S0lstice, Fuba both which I have dropped when I didn't think it made sense from what was going on in the thread. I have conflicting feelings about Sent but i see alot of scummy things in his play. I have since picked up ace as a scum read last night. And you just recently :D Isn't that swell
Before the end of day 1 you called oatsmaster town, Ace scummy and me scummy. And that is what you are doing now. I also feel that you have not attempted to try to understand my viewpoint because your happy to look busy yelling "scum".

On June 08 2013 10:19 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 10:15 layabout wrote:
sucks that when i am around and feel like posting no one else is

You wish you were so lucky

Yeah because an entire hour of just me didn't pass. /sarcasm
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 08 2013 01:43 GMT
#912
@Layabout

You say Rayn is scummy because his town read didn't make sense from a town perspective. But in previous games when I'm town I do very similar things. Therefore I didn't think Rayn was scummy


"This is silly" doesn't much change my game experiences and people defending me as lynch bait usually being town.

Layabout
Before the end of day 1 you called oatsmaster town, Ace scummy and me scummy. And that is what you are doing now. I also feel that you have not attempted to try to understand my viewpoint because your happy to look busy yelling "scum".


Rofl please Sir do quote it or gtfo thx :D
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 08 2013 02:02 GMT
#913
dammit misread stuff.

jay if you as town are doing what rayne did which gave him away as mafia then i think i have identified a problem with your townplay.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2013 02:08 GMT
#914
boop.

Ace Fakeclaimed red cop check on me.

Stutters, that one game I played around because I thought it was the fastest way to get out of being lynched. Not the case. So I wont do it again.

I mean, who has been in the thread. Me.
Who hasnt? Ace.

Who doesnt talk when townie lynch is imminent? Scum.
No gg, No skill.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 08 2013 02:10 GMT
#915
On June 08 2013 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
boop.

Ace Fakeclaimed red cop check on me.

Stutters, that one game I played around because I thought it was the fastest way to get out of being lynched. Not the case. So I wont do it again.

I mean, who has been in the thread. Me.
Who hasnt? Ace.

Who doesnt talk when townie lynch is imminent? Scum.

Oats your going to flip today. We already know that you think Ace is scum. Do other stuff. Useful stuff.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2013 02:18 GMT
#916
On June 08 2013 11:10 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
boop.

Ace Fakeclaimed red cop check on me.

Stutters, that one game I played around because I thought it was the fastest way to get out of being lynched. Not the case. So I wont do it again.

I mean, who has been in the thread. Me.
Who hasnt? Ace.

Who doesnt talk when townie lynch is imminent? Scum.

Oats your going to flip today. We already know that you think Ace is scum. Do other stuff. Useful stuff.

you are fucking awful if you think im scum.
What useful stuff do you suggest?
No gg, No skill.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 08 2013 02:23 GMT
#917
On June 08 2013 11:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 11:10 layabout wrote:
On June 08 2013 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
boop.

Ace Fakeclaimed red cop check on me.

Stutters, that one game I played around because I thought it was the fastest way to get out of being lynched. Not the case. So I wont do it again.

I mean, who has been in the thread. Me.
Who hasnt? Ace.

Who doesnt talk when townie lynch is imminent? Scum.

Oats your going to flip today. We already know that you think Ace is scum. Do other stuff. Useful stuff.

you are fucking awful if you think im scum.
What useful stuff do you suggest?

your reads.

Everyone else wants to kill one of you. You have a red check, it makes more sense to lynch you than Ace. Bite me.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 08 2013 02:25 GMT
#918
On June 08 2013 11:23 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 11:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2013 11:10 layabout wrote:
On June 08 2013 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
boop.

Ace Fakeclaimed red cop check on me.

Stutters, that one game I played around because I thought it was the fastest way to get out of being lynched. Not the case. So I wont do it again.

I mean, who has been in the thread. Me.
Who hasnt? Ace.

Who doesnt talk when townie lynch is imminent? Scum.

Oats your going to flip today. We already know that you think Ace is scum. Do other stuff. Useful stuff.

you are fucking awful if you think im scum.
What useful stuff do you suggest?

your reads.

Everyone else wants to kill one of you. You have a red check, it makes more sense to lynch you than Ace. Bite me.

It makes more sense to read the thread, and see that I am obviously the more townie out of me and Ace.
Not going. "Red check, dont care bye guys."

Reads about who?

No gg, No skill.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 08 2013 02:29 GMT
#919
On June 08 2013 11:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 11:23 layabout wrote:
On June 08 2013 11:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 08 2013 11:10 layabout wrote:
On June 08 2013 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
boop.

Ace Fakeclaimed red cop check on me.

Stutters, that one game I played around because I thought it was the fastest way to get out of being lynched. Not the case. So I wont do it again.

I mean, who has been in the thread. Me.
Who hasnt? Ace.

Who doesnt talk when townie lynch is imminent? Scum.

Oats your going to flip today. We already know that you think Ace is scum. Do other stuff. Useful stuff.

you are fucking awful if you think im scum.
What useful stuff do you suggest?

your reads.

Everyone else wants to kill one of you. You have a red check, it makes more sense to lynch you than Ace. Bite me.

It makes more sense to read the thread, and see that I am obviously the more townie out of me and Ace.
Not going. "Red check, dont care bye guys."

Reads about who?


There are 3 mafia and 10 townies. If you are one of the townies then your goal is to identify and lynch the 3 mafia. So far you have 1/3.

If you think all i have said is "red check don't care bye guys" then i guess it's my turn to call you fucking awful.
You are fucking awful.

Isn't it nice when we are so pleasant to each other?
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 02:45:58
June 08 2013 02:30 GMT
#920
Filters in the OP should now work again.

most of them at least
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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