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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote: Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game. If you feel that you are confirmed town, why were you running around like your head was cut off last night referencing non-existent vig shots? | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote: Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game. What? You were one of the few defending rayn. You were desperately trying to get fuba lynched until the very end. If you're confirmed anything it's scum. Eduardo Nbobo would be a powerful role if he lived. It would make sense to defend rayn. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On June 08 2013 03:59 kitaman27 wrote: If you feel that you are confirmed town, why were you running around like your head was cut off last night referencing non-existent vig shots? because ive never had a read been so wrong before so it was upsetting. I'm trying to play through it now. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
calm down | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:05 Oatsmaster wrote: prp: Sent: His vote on WoS with this explanation: See, his first point about lurker lynching is totally null. Second point which I bolded. WoS is saying that through his play, he has drawn flak and votes and controversy, like accidentally or at the very least, not intentioonally. Sent is saying that WoS INTENTIONALLY does this. The thing is, the correct conclusion to draw from Sent's analysis, is that WoS is town. It makes zero sense for mafia to come out early day 1 and get a wagon started on himself, when its very possible that it continues to lynch. And even if it doesnt, you arent really in a strong position going into day 2 either. So bad conclusions and bad vote. Like objectively bad. Sent is not bad. And then he votes for me and NEVER EXPLAINS in the slightest. At all. In a time where I was drawing some fire for my Ace push. after that, Rayn looks like he is gonna die, oh no better switch votes without looking scummy, so he explains his non voting beforehand. Why does he need to explain that if he says later that he is 'sure' that Rayn is gonna flip scum? Why is he thinking about survival and not lynching scum? Layabout: First off, a vote for Jay cause he 'dislikes' his attitude, and not cause he thinks in any remote way that his attitude makes him scum. So scummy from the get go. This quote is golden. You know who cares about appearances? Scum. Town dont, town wanna lynch scum. But could just be word choice, I personally dont think so. This is the only thing he says about the WoS lynch, or the game at all outside Jay until rayn asks him. I dont think that rayn asking him a somewhat softball question which layabout responds with his longest post so far. This post, Jay is the only one he wants to lynch right? But he doesnt seem intent to asking people to vote for him, or to get him lynched at all. It feels like jay is the convenient target that no one thinks layabout is suspicious for having. It does not feel like Layabout wants to get jay lynched. BUTTTTTT The current redeeming thing in his favor, is that he thinks Sent scumslipped and is pushing Sent hard. If Sent flips town, I will look back at layabout. It's funny your idea about how prp isn't scummy is exactly what made me think he is scummy. That quick change in attitude regarding Rayn looked awful, and I don't see how you can defend it. Regarding Sent: Again I may fall into the trap of my own early bad play here, but there is something to be said about town worrying about looking bad. If you look at my first few games I did shit like explaining why what I'm about to do looks scummy as town. Sentinel isn't new here though, right? We're assuming he knows better? I also disagree with your analysis of Sent's reasoning for finding me scummy. I semi-intentionally acted the way I did to get conversation started; I didn't know it would get people to vote for me but I've already explained that either way I found that successful. Assuming you didn't believe I was town, don't you think it's possible for me to have acted the way I did if I was scum? The wagon on me was weak and I knew it. When Sentinel accused me of being scum I answered him and explained it but I certainly wasn't thinking of it the way you were. Regarding layabout: His thoughts have basically coincided with mine all game. I have absolutely no reason to think he is scum right now above other people. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote: Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game. What? No. GK at least put in the effort. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: What? You were one of the few defending rayn. You were desperately trying to get fuba lynched until the very end. If you're confirmed anything it's scum. Eduardo Nbobo would be a powerful role if he lived. It would make sense to defend rayn. he was also called town for no reason by rayn | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:06 Oatsmaster wrote: he was also called town for no reason by rayn I don't honestly see the value of that. It's WIFOM. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
You just said me putting in more effort makes me scum. Make up your mind or stop trollin' its a perfect example | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:07 WaveofShadow wrote: I don't honestly see the value of that. It's WIFOM. no its not. Why give scum partner 100% town read with iffy reasons when you can just say null? Vayne wasnt even under pressure in the slightest | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote: You just said me putting in more effort makes me scum. Make up your mind or stop trollin' its a perfect example You're right, but I also said it pisses me off. YOU also said you wouldn't be playing the same way this game. Maybe you've reversed your meta now. You are dead weight right now if you're town, and I don't tolerate dead weight in my town. Again, for somebody so proud of his play on other sites I haven't seen much of that great play here. Who do you want to lynch and how do you plan to actively assist the town in getting your primary read lynched? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote: no its not. Why give scum partner 100% town read with iffy reasons when you can just say null? Vayne wasnt even under pressure in the slightest 'Iffy reasons' could be scum-derived in that he knows Vayne is town and gave odd reasons for it because he didn't want to make it seem like he knew Vayne is town. 'Iffy reasons' could also be scum doing his best to protect a buddy. Do you know for sure which it is? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:10 WaveofShadow wrote: You're right, but I also said it pisses me off. YOU also said you wouldn't be playing the same way this game. Maybe you've reversed your meta now. You are dead weight right now if you're town, and I don't tolerate dead weight in my town. Again, for somebody so proud of his play on other sites I haven't seen much of that great play here. Who do you want to lynch and how do you plan to actively assist the town in getting your primary read lynched? I already voted for who I want to lynch, there's no way around it. Percentages and the KP reduction is too good to pass up. Also ATE is going to get you nowhere with me so you can drop it. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:11 VayneAuthority wrote: ????He said I was town because he was trying to buddy up people outside of the mafia to get the lynch changed, he did the same thing with JJD. This isn't that complicated. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Read rayne's filter and it will become apparent | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:12 VayneAuthority wrote: I already voted for who I want to lynch, there's no way around it. Percentages and the KP reduction is too good to pass up. Also ATE is going to get you nowhere with me so you can drop it. I don't know what ATE is. 'Percentages and KP reduction' are not good enough when you have made no active contributions to the game this far. As I've said I may not be pushing you today but I certainly will not be dropping this entirely. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote: 'Iffy reasons' could be scum-derived in that he knows Vayne is town and gave odd reasons for it because he didn't want to make it seem like he knew Vayne is town. This makes Vayne town 'Iffy reasons' could also be scum doing his best to protect a buddy. Do you know for sure which it is? Vayne was under 0 pressure, and giving a player a very nebulous reason why they are town is easy to 180 and stuff. Im almost completely sure that vayne isnt scum. On that note, I gotta sleep. LYNCH ACE. LYNCH ACE. LYNCH ACE. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:12 VayneAuthority wrote: I already voted for who I want to lynch, there's no way around it. Percentages and the KP reduction is too good to pass up. Also ATE is going to get you nowhere with me so you can drop it. please do some work, Read both our filters, vote for the one you think is scum. Thats the best way to get today correct irregardless of mine or Ace's alignment. DO IT. | ||
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